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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 19, 2019 12:01:29 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 19, 2019 12:08:18 GMT
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Post by chigstoke on Sept 19, 2019 12:10:40 GMT
Tired of him saying we're nearly a good side. Nearly isn't good enough when you have 1 point and are rock bottom of the fucking league.
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Post by milky on Sept 19, 2019 12:10:51 GMT
It sounds oh so 1989/1990 ..
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 19, 2019 12:11:18 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/live-stoke-city-press-conference-3335099NJ: We are going to have to use the squad with quite a few games coming up in the next week. We have two big league games and a cup tie that we want to win. Everyone is ready for the days ahead. Cutting down the error count...NJ: I don’t think we are lacking confidence, it’s just at certain moments we are either making an error or things are going against us. If we can eradicate them then we will be a really good side. How is everything affecting you?NJ: We have made a lot of errors compared to a lot of teams and been punished for every single one and we have to change that. We have a group working hard and if we had players who didn’t want to play for me I’d be the first to say. We have scored in every game, but haven’t kept a clean sheet, apart from Wigan. A lot of things have to come together and we are working tirelessly on it. Conceding too many?Yes. If we are conceding two every game we are not going to win many. Last week we had better chances than Bristol, even with 10 men, then it’s being more clincical. I can’t fault a 90-minute performance, it’s just we switch off and get punished for just about everything we’ve done. How is Ndiaye?NJ: It’s probably been the first week I’ve known exactly who I can play. It’s a real settled group now and everyone knows where they are and we have good competition. And good to have Martins Indi back?NJ: Yes and now we can pick our strongest side apart from Joe Allen. Nick Powell?NJ: Not fully fit, but he’s training. It’s a massive frustration, the same before that with Badou and Bruno. Other injuries?NJ: Carter-Vickers missed a couple of days with illness, but he’s ok now. It’s the first week we can do all our work and know which players are available. Normally we have to wait until Friday before knowing that. Shawcross on the mendNJ: He’s been a miss. He’s been in and around the club already. We haven’t had a lot go for us, but I’m not going to make any excuses. If we get that first win we have a group capable of going on a good run. How much are problems down to mistakes?NJ: They are a contributory factor, but I have to take responsibility too because I’m the leader. In the public eye I am responsible, but individually we work on stuff in training and if you ask anyone they would say they have contributed because they are honest. We’ve had a season’s worth of errors in a seven or eight-week period. The leaks of the team have stopped now?NJ: That’s part and parcel of having a sane week this week. That’s just one of the problems. Normally it’s sacrilege to leak the team and something I don’t condone. It shouldn’t happen and if it has stopped that’s good. What's causing the individual errors?NJ: It’s been a lack of concentration or a lack of confidence in certain situations. On Saturday we were in total control for 12 minutes and for the first time I felt we were turning into the team I want with the energy and body language. Sometimes you get away with lapses and we are not getting away with them. But ultimately it’s down to concentrating and helping people through and that’s what we are trying to do. It’s not bad luck. How can you stop it?NJ: You work and we believe in our work. It’s baffling at times, it really is, because if we were getting carved open... but we are not. We go away and dominate games, but then people switch off. It’s not just work, but the smart work you do, and if we do that I’m sure we will get the results long term. Pleased with commitment of players?NJ: yes, I’m pleased with 80% of our play. We carve out chances and defend well, then bang. Apart from Leeds United, no team has dominated us. It’s a false position we are in, but I don’t know how long we can keep saying that. I’m under no illusion of the position we are in, but there really are positives, it’s just those minor inches we have to change. Do that and I think we will not only start winning, but winning comfortably. But we have to get better that extra 20%.
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 19, 2019 12:13:27 GMT
so we are 'nearly a very good side'
the ones at the top of the league must be fucking amazing then!
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Post by stokefc on Sept 19, 2019 12:15:37 GMT
Sounds positive but then Saturday comes and it all goes to shit It's gotta change, hasn't it..
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Post by 1982stokie on Sept 19, 2019 12:16:23 GMT
we can pick our strongest side apart from Joe Allen. For Christ sake.
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 19, 2019 12:22:13 GMT
At least he isn't blaming bad luck so the posters on here who insist it is can we finally chalk that excuse off from now on, it's down to bad footballers and a bad manger, close to being a very good side my fucking arse we are.
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Post by stokeykez on Sept 19, 2019 12:33:34 GMT
My god he really is an optimistic delusional fella isnt he.
It's like he believes that if we score it will click and we will go on and win comfortably. Look at your goal difference and your points nathan, that will tell you that we are not 20% off being a really good team
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Post by toppercorner on Sept 19, 2019 12:35:45 GMT
have they deleted the tweet that included:
"we can pick our strongest side apart from Joe Allen"
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Post by thestatusquo on Sept 19, 2019 12:43:55 GMT
We aren’t getting carved open ? My mind must be playing tricks on me!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2019 12:54:44 GMT
Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
Psalm 106:26
GD
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 19, 2019 13:00:01 GMT
Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose Psalm 106:26 GD Get your Serpent Elixir picture out!
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Post by adamsson on Sept 19, 2019 13:01:21 GMT
Sounds positive but then Saturday comes and it all goes to shit It's gotta change, hasn't it.. I really hope that on Saturday we absolutely hammer Brentford 4 or 5 nil and then do the same to Forest on Friday. I would love it if Jones could be successful I have absolutely nothing against him. But we will lose on Saturday and then he really will have to go.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2019 13:01:55 GMT
Tired of him saying we're nearly a good side. Nearly isn't good enough when you have 1 point and are rock bottom of the fucking league. I'm tired of him saying he will rotate the squad over the next three games. The one good thing I wanted to hear him say was that he was learning from his mistakes and was going for a settled team.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2019 13:02:32 GMT
Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose Psalm 106:26 GD Get your Serpent Elixir picture out! Attachment DeletedGD
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2019 13:02:40 GMT
Sounds positive but then Saturday comes and it all goes to shit It's gotta change, hasn't it.. I really hope that on Saturday we absolutely hammer Brentford 4 or 5 nil and then do the same to Forest on Friday. I would love it if Jones could be successful I have absolutely nothing against him. But we will lose on Saturday and then he really will have to go. No.
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Post by okeydokeystokie2 on Sept 19, 2019 13:31:02 GMT
How can you stop it?NJ: You work and we believe in our work. It’s baffling at times, it really is, because if we were getting carved open... but we are not. We go away and dominate games, but then people switch off. It’s not just work, but the smart work you do, and if we do that I’m sure we will get the results long term. Pleased with commitment of players?NJ: yes, I’m pleased with 80% of our play. We carve out chances and defend well, then bang. Apart from Leeds United, no team has dominated us. It’s a false position we are in, but I don’t know how long we can keep saying that. I’m under no illusion of the position we are in, but there really are positives, it’s just those minor inches we have to change. Do that and I think we will not only start winning, but winning comfortably. But we have to get better that extra 20%. Thanks for that, FM. Interesting again and I personally think he pretty much tells it how it is. The only thing I picked up on is in the last paragraph - is it minor inches we have to change or is it a 20% improvement? Probably just over analysing like everybody else and I get what he is saying. Dave Brailsford's aggregate marginal gains - lots of tiny improvements make a huge overall difference. Be more clinical, put your chances is away and cut out the defensive errors. For all the talk of tactics and formations, football's still a fairly simple game. Every week I think we've got better players than them - yet every week we get beat. It's a mystery to me!
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 19, 2019 13:45:34 GMT
How can you stop it?NJ: You work and we believe in our work. It’s baffling at times, it really is, because if we were getting carved open... but we are not. We go away and dominate games, but then people switch off. It’s not just work, but the smart work you do, and if we do that I’m sure we will get the results long term. Pleased with commitment of players?NJ: yes, I’m pleased with 80% of our play. We carve out chances and defend well, then bang. Apart from Leeds United, no team has dominated us. It’s a false position we are in, but I don’t know how long we can keep saying that. I’m under no illusion of the position we are in, but there really are positives, it’s just those minor inches we have to change. Do that and I think we will not only start winning, but winning comfortably. But we have to get better that extra 20%. Thanks for that, FM. Interesting again and I personally think he pretty much tells it how it is. The only thing I picked up on is in the last paragraph - is it minor inches we have to change or is it a 20% improvement? Probably just over analysing like everybody else and I get what he is saying. Dave Brailsford's aggregate marginal gains - lots of tiny improvements make a huge overall difference. Be more clinical, put your chances is away and cut out the defensive errors. For all the talk of tactics and formations, football's still a fairly simple game. Every week I think we've got better players than them - yet every week we get beat. It's a mystery to me! Could it be that the other teams have a better manager perhaps
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Post by kustokie on Sept 19, 2019 13:52:59 GMT
What exactly are “minor inches” away? I’d say we’re major miles away.
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Post by Bombus on Sept 19, 2019 14:06:58 GMT
Honestly once again a fair assessment that imo, it has just got to drop for us on Saturday 0-4 Stoke come on you Potters
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Sept 19, 2019 14:21:01 GMT
So Nick Powell isn’t in his strongest side?
This we were on top for 1-15 minutes (insert number depending on game) is just bollocks. Most teams have a decent spell during a game.
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Post by Davef on Sept 19, 2019 14:32:27 GMT
Mistakes happen, but not every mistake ends up in a goal.
We are handing teams goals on a plate though. The kind of shite defending we saw against Birmingham and Bristol City will be punished every time and will probably continue to happen.
Teams are wise to us. We don't do enough to stop crosses coming over and we can't defend the back post.
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 19, 2019 14:34:36 GMT
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Post by okeydokeystokie2 on Sept 19, 2019 14:34:45 GMT
Thanks for that, FM. Interesting again and I personally think he pretty much tells it how it is. The only thing I picked up on is in the last paragraph - is it minor inches we have to change or is it a 20% improvement? Probably just over analysing like everybody else and I get what he is saying. Dave Brailsford's aggregate marginal gains - lots of tiny improvements make a huge overall difference. Be more clinical, put your chances is away and cut out the defensive errors. For all the talk of tactics and formations, football's still a fairly simple game. Every week I think we've got better players than them - yet every week we get beat. It's a mystery to me! Could it be that the other teams have a better manager perhaps I'm not entrenched one way or the other, but you could of course be right. I honestly don't know how good he is yet, but obviously his achievements at Luton were impressive. Like a lot of people have said, I see some encouraging stuff, then we do something dopey and the confidence is so fragile that the heads drop. Losing (or winning for that matter) becomes a habit.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 19, 2019 14:35:33 GMT
Honestly once again a fair assessment that imo, it has just got to drop for us on Saturday 0-4 Stoke come on you Potters Its happened before mate us winning 4-0 at Brentford 9th March 1991,I remember it well
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Post by okeydokeystokie2 on Sept 19, 2019 14:41:04 GMT
Mistakes happen, but not every mistake ends up in a goal. We are handing teams goals on a plate though. The kind of shite defending we saw against Birmingham and Bristol City will be punished every time and will probably continue to happen. Teams are wise to us. We don't do enough to stop crosses coming over and we can't defend the back post. Yeah that is a worry. Twice in one game last week. But he must also see it. We can only hope he's working with the fullbacks and CBs to get better at it. If he can't stop it with this system, I think he may have to go 4-4-2 and put Clucas in front of McClean. Whether he will, or whether he has the time to experiment remains to be seen.
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Post by okeydokeystokie2 on Sept 19, 2019 14:42:21 GMT
Honestly once again a fair assessment that imo, it has just got to drop for us on Saturday 0-4 Stoke come on you Potters Its happened before mate us winning 4-0 at Brentford 9th March 1991,I remember it well Brentford quite a historic fixture for us for those that remember the unlucky south dressing room in Cardiff.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Sept 19, 2019 14:46:31 GMT
The bloke really has a problem with reality doesn't he.
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