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Post by Absolution on Sept 2, 2019 18:34:32 GMT
We were promised a 'major overhaul' in May 2018. Maybe that promise could be dusted down and enacted. We’d be better dusting off a certain dossier. I think it was used to relegate West Brom.
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Post by boothenboys1863 on Sept 2, 2019 18:49:35 GMT
Just get behind the manager no matter what.. granted he’s made mistakes by cracking to fan pressure with the changes but the bloke nor the club at times simply can not win..
Let’s start with jones..
He has an idea of formation, fans moan about his idea.. he changes the formation - FANS MOAN!
He has a side he wants to play, fans moan about the side.. he changes the side - FANS MOAN!
He has a style of football he wants to play, fans moan about his style.. he changes the style of play - FANS MOAN!
The man can not do right from wrong, this clearly isn’t a managerial issue it’s deeper than that so get behind the man. Don’t make him change a formation or a starting 11 because he feels pressure of the fans.
I don’t care what anyone says the way we played first 4/5 games we were better than we’ve been for a long time. You could see a system, take away individual errors we win 3/4 of them first 5 games.
Then on to the club..
You want Pulis out, the club get rid bring in Hughes - FANS MOAN!
Hughes comes in does well couple of years you all forget how much you hated him at the start then start loving him. It drops off after Liverpool semi final, you want him out. Club get rid appoint lambert. FANS MOAN!
Granted lambert shouldn’t have been appointed but who else was going come to stoke in the position we were in?
Then we get relegated. There’s talk of big Sam, moyes the usual - FANS MOAN! We don’t want another dinosaur let’s change it up go for someone young with something to prove.
They appoint rowett, 5/6 games in we loose 3-0 home to Wigan - fans start moaning. Fast forward a couple of months we’re chanting about how rowetts football is shit then he’s gone.
Jones comes in half a season with another mans squad and yes granted a pre season with his own side we loose 5 of the first 6 - FANS MOAN!
Now there’s talk of appointing Pulis, again fans moan.. We also keep saying we should have gone with someone bigger a bigger name than jones steady the ship. Hang on, 12 months ago you were all fuming because people were mentioning big Sam etc now majority of you want someone like him to come in.
Look I know it’s shit at the minute, I go every home and most away games I really know it’s shit. But some of the bollocks being spouted by so called fans is pathetic. The sooner the extra premier league fans fuck off the better..
I know I’m going get grief for this but for once open your eyes stoke fans, don’t blame the ball rolling under Butland on jones, don’t blame players missing for 4/5 yards on jones, don’t blame individual mistakes on jones. Like I’ve said before I know it’s him who picks the side but you simply can’t blame jones for stupid individual mistakes.
The only bad move jones has made here is cracking to the pressure from the fans for a change in formation, tactics and starting 11. He should have done his own thing and fucking ignored everyone else!
Anyway, rant over. Sorry for long post..
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Post by adamsson on Sept 2, 2019 19:26:15 GMT
Let’s start with jones..
loose 5 of the first 6 - FANS MOAN!
Didn't need to be a long post. If he could get a few wins we would stop moaning
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Post by boothenboys1863 on Sept 2, 2019 19:35:11 GMT
Let’s start with jones.. loose 5 of the first 6 - FANS MOAN! Didn't need to be a long post. If he could get a few wins we would stop moaning And that sums up more than 50% of our fanbase - fickle..
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2019 19:43:03 GMT
Let’s start with jones.. loose 5 of the first 6 - FANS MOAN! Didn't need to be a long post. If he could get a few wins we would stop moaning And that sums up more than 50% of our fanbase - fickle.. Yes we do have some fickle fans, but we also have some world class fucking idiots also!
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Post by thehoof on Sept 2, 2019 19:59:30 GMT
Let’s start with jones.. loose 5 of the first 6 - FANS MOAN! Didn't need to be a long post. If he could get a few wins we would stop moaning And that sums up more than 50% of our fanbase - fickle.. I see that you choose to ignore the 21 games of last season as if they don’t count? Strange how Liverpool’s record 13 game winning streak includes 9 games from last season? It’s okay to use the previous season if you win but not if you are losing. By all means stick with Super Druid, then the NJ brigade can tell us how Leicester, Norwich, and Southampton all benefitted from a visit to League 1.
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Post by smallthorner on Sept 2, 2019 20:06:33 GMT
Regardless of fans being "fickle"..
I don't think it's unreasonable for fans to moan at the current predicament.
I'm gobsmacked that there hasn't been more criticism of the quality of his signings. Two of them at least .. absolute dross.
He's like a frightened rabbit in the headlights at the moment.
I've absolutely no idea what the solution is and I suspect the owners don't either.
The squad is over staffed, devoid of quality and flexibility.
We all know it course.. but it's a clusterfuck of epic proportions.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Sept 2, 2019 20:11:03 GMT
Sing "Scholes out" to the Alice Cooper tune. Jones will be sacked forthwith.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2019 20:17:03 GMT
Sing "Scholes out" to the Alice Cooper tune. Jones will be sacked forthwith. This is so true. He’d be gone the next day.
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Post by smallthorner on Sept 2, 2019 20:17:47 GMT
Sing "Scholes out" to the Alice Cooper tune. Jones will be sacked forthwith. For Summer?😊
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Post by thisisouryear on Sept 2, 2019 20:18:11 GMT
B, i have not give up on Jones completely just yet. I still like him, although results are going against us i can still see potential. Some fine tweaks and we will start winning games.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 2, 2019 20:19:30 GMT
Sing "Scholes out" to the Alice Cooper tune. Jones will be sacked forthwith.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2019 20:20:03 GMT
B, i have not give up on Jones completely just yet. I still like him, although results are going against us i can still see potential. Some fine tweaks and we will start winning games. If you like someone, your tolerance for their failure can be high. I don't like him - I have no tolerance left.
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Post by jebbstuart on Sept 2, 2019 20:36:05 GMT
we stand at the same point as with Hughes crap results very poor performances et al... What do we do or hear from the top...... Silence when you need action we have the Coates family! what can we do with Such Apathy!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2019 20:42:17 GMT
we stand at the same point as with Hughes crap results very poor performances et al... What do we do or hear from the top...... Silence when you need action we have the Coates family! what can we do with Such Apathy!!!!! Hughes was sacked within a few hours of the loss to Coventry.
We then waited weeks whilst the owners discovered that nobody on their "list" wanted to manage us. No "approaches" had been made at all.
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Post by kickbolukanbite on Sept 2, 2019 20:42:22 GMT
Just get behind the manager no matter what.. granted he’s made mistakes by cracking to fan pressure with the changes but the bloke nor the club at times simply can not win.. Let’s start with jones.. He has an idea of formation, fans moan about his idea.. he changes the formation - FANS MOAN! He has a side he wants to play, fans moan about the side.. he changes the side - FANS MOAN! He has a style of football he wants to play, fans moan about his style.. he changes the style of play - FANS MOAN! The man can not do right from wrong, this clearly isn’t a managerial issue it’s deeper than that so get behind the man. Don’t make him change a formation or a starting 11 because he feels pressure of the fans. I don’t care what anyone says the way we played first 4/5 games we were better than we’ve been for a long time. You could see a system, take away individual errors we win 3/4 of them first 5 games. Then on to the club.. You want Pulis out, the club get rid bring in Hughes - FANS MOAN! Hughes comes in does well couple of years you all forget how much you hated him at the start then start loving him. It drops off after Liverpool semi final, you want him out. Club get rid appoint lambert. FANS MOAN! Granted lambert shouldn’t have been appointed but who else was going come to stoke in the position we were in? Then we get relegated. There’s talk of big Sam, moyes the usual - FANS MOAN! We don’t want another dinosaur let’s change it up go for someone young with something to prove. They appoint rowett, 5/6 games in we loose 3-0 home to Wigan - fans start moaning. Fast forward a couple of months we’re chanting about how rowetts football is shit then he’s gone. Jones comes in half a season with another mans squad and yes granted a pre season with his own side we loose 5 of the first 6 - FANS MOAN! Now there’s talk of appointing Pulis, again fans moan.. We also keep saying we should have gone with someone bigger a bigger name than jones steady the ship. Hang on, 12 months ago you were all fuming because people were mentioning big Sam etc now majority of you want someone like him to come in. Look I know it’s shit at the minute, I go every home and most away games I really know it’s shit. But some of the bollocks being spouted by so called fans is pathetic. The sooner the extra premier league fans fuck off the better.. I know I’m going get grief for this but for once open your eyes stoke fans, don’t blame the ball rolling under Butland on jones, don’t blame players missing for 4/5 yards on jones, don’t blame individual mistakes on jones. Like I’ve said before I know it’s him who picks the side but you simply can’t blame jones for stupid individual mistakes. The only bad move jones has made here is cracking to the pressure from the fans for a change in formation, tactics and starting 11. He should have done his own thing and fucking ignored everyone else! Anyway, rant over. Sorry for long post.. Well said sir. Sums it up completely.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 2, 2019 20:59:29 GMT
Just get behind the manager no matter what.. granted he’s made mistakes by cracking to fan pressure with the changes but the bloke nor the club at times simply can not win.. Let’s start with jones.. He has an idea of formation, fans moan about his idea.. he changes the formation - FANS MOAN! He has a side he wants to play, fans moan about the side.. he changes the side - FANS MOAN! He has a style of football he wants to play, fans moan about his style.. he changes the style of play - FANS MOAN! The man can not do right from wrong, this clearly isn’t a managerial issue it’s deeper than that so get behind the man. Don’t make him change a formation or a starting 11 because he feels pressure of the fans. I don’t care what anyone says the way we played first 4/5 games we were better than we’ve been for a long time. You could see a system, take away individual errors we win 3/4 of them first 5 games. Then on to the club.. You want Pulis out, the club get rid bring in Hughes - FANS MOAN! Hughes comes in does well couple of years you all forget how much you hated him at the start then start loving him. It drops off after Liverpool semi final, you want him out. Club get rid appoint lambert. FANS MOAN! Granted lambert shouldn’t have been appointed but who else was going come to stoke in the position we were in? Then we get relegated. There’s talk of big Sam, moyes the usual - FANS MOAN! We don’t want another dinosaur let’s change it up go for someone young with something to prove. They appoint rowett, 5/6 games in we loose 3-0 home to Wigan - fans start moaning. Fast forward a couple of months we’re chanting about how rowetts football is shit then he’s gone. Jones comes in half a season with another mans squad and yes granted a pre season with his own side we loose 5 of the first 6 - FANS MOAN! Now there’s talk of appointing Pulis, again fans moan.. We also keep saying we should have gone with someone bigger a bigger name than jones steady the ship. Hang on, 12 months ago you were all fuming because people were mentioning big Sam etc now majority of you want someone like him to come in. Look I know it’s shit at the minute, I go every home and most away games I really know it’s shit. But some of the bollocks being spouted by so called fans is pathetic. The sooner the extra premier league fans fuck off the better.. I know I’m going get grief for this but for once open your eyes stoke fans, don’t blame the ball rolling under Butland on jones, don’t blame players missing for 4/5 yards on jones, don’t blame individual mistakes on jones. Like I’ve said before I know it’s him who picks the side but you simply can’t blame jones for stupid individual mistakes. The only bad move jones has made here is cracking to the pressure from the fans for a change in formation, tactics and starting 11. He should have done his own thing and fucking ignored everyone else! Anyway, rant over. Sorry for long post.. Well said sir. Sums it up completely. Have you seen our home attendances? I mean the actual people attending rather than quoted figure? I think those premier league extras have long gone
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Post by mcw on Sept 2, 2019 21:03:19 GMT
Just get behind the manager no matter what.. granted he’s made mistakes by cracking to fan pressure with the changes but the bloke nor the club at times simply can not win.. Let’s start with jones.. He has an idea of formation, fans moan about his idea.. he changes the formation - FANS MOAN! He has a side he wants to play, fans moan about the side.. he changes the side - FANS MOAN! He has a style of football he wants to play, fans moan about his style.. he changes the style of play - FANS MOAN! The man can not do right from wrong, this clearly isn’t a managerial issue it’s deeper than that so get behind the man. Don’t make him change a formation or a starting 11 because he feels pressure of the fans. I don’t care what anyone says the way we played first 4/5 games we were better than we’ve been for a long time. You could see a system, take away individual errors we win 3/4 of them first 5 games. Then on to the club.. You want Pulis out, the club get rid bring in Hughes - FANS MOAN! Hughes comes in does well couple of years you all forget how much you hated him at the start then start loving him. It drops off after Liverpool semi final, you want him out. Club get rid appoint lambert. FANS MOAN! Granted lambert shouldn’t have been appointed but who else was going come to stoke in the position we were in? Then we get relegated. There’s talk of big Sam, moyes the usual - FANS MOAN! We don’t want another dinosaur let’s change it up go for someone young with something to prove. They appoint rowett, 5/6 games in we loose 3-0 home to Wigan - fans start moaning. Fast forward a couple of months we’re chanting about how rowetts football is shit then he’s gone. Jones comes in half a season with another mans squad and yes granted a pre season with his own side we loose 5 of the first 6 - FANS MOAN! Now there’s talk of appointing Pulis, again fans moan.. We also keep saying we should have gone with someone bigger a bigger name than jones steady the ship. Hang on, 12 months ago you were all fuming because people were mentioning big Sam etc now majority of you want someone like him to come in. Look I know it’s shit at the minute, I go every home and most away games I really know it’s shit. But some of the bollocks being spouted by so called fans is pathetic. The sooner the extra premier league fans fuck off the better.. I know I’m going get grief for this but for once open your eyes stoke fans, don’t blame the ball rolling under Butland on jones, don’t blame players missing for 4/5 yards on jones, don’t blame individual mistakes on jones. Like I’ve said before I know it’s him who picks the side but you simply can’t blame jones for stupid individual mistakes. The only bad move jones has made here is cracking to the pressure from the fans for a change in formation, tactics and starting 11. He should have done his own thing and fucking ignored everyone else! Anyway, rant over. Sorry for long post.. Well said sir. Sums it up completely. That’s what worries me most about him though, he came in and sounded like somebody who was determined and single minded. He hasn’t had a tough spell and the pressure is getting to him- numerous formation changes/ revolving door of players in and out. Bin this idea of squad rotation and that each player has an equally impressive back up- find a starting 11, stick to one formation and take it from there. If anything comes out of the international break then I hope it is that!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 2, 2019 21:04:10 GMT
Well said sir. Sums it up completely. Have you seen our home attendances? I mean the actual people attending rather than quoted figure? I think those premier league extras have long gone I’ve found it’s the ones more long in the tooth that have stopped going than the PL extras.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 2, 2019 21:13:16 GMT
Have you seen our home attendances? I mean the actual people attending rather than quoted figure? I think those premier league extras have long gone I’ve found it’s the ones more long in the tooth that have stopped going than the PL extras. Maybe. Perhaps those more long in the tooth can simply take no more
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 2, 2019 21:24:41 GMT
I’ve found it’s the ones more long in the tooth that have stopped going than the PL extras. Maybe. Perhaps those more long in the tooth can simply take no more That’s what I’ve found or just mind it simple mind numbingly dull, which I get.
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Post by boothenboys1863 on Sept 2, 2019 21:26:26 GMT
Regardless of fans being "fickle".. I don't think it's unreasonable for fans to moan at the current predicament. I'm gobsmacked that there hasn't been more criticism of the quality of his signings. Two of them at least .. absolute dross. He's like a frightened rabbit in the headlights at the moment. I've absolutely no idea what the solution is and I suspect the owners don't either. The squad is over staffed, devoid of quality and flexibility. We all know it course.. but it's a clusterfuck of epic proportions. I agree with you 100% every fan deserves there say that’s the beauty of the game. But everyone is pointing the finger directly at jones. This isn’t jones mess, you’re all shouting for the man to be sacked but then what? Is anyone actually thinking about what happens next? No bloke with half a brain would come anywhere near the club unless you chucked copious amounts of money at him and then what? What if that doesn’t work we find ourselves millions out of pocket and still in the same position. I can understand people’s anger but I think there’s a lot of people at the club who have a free ride. Whilst Nathan jones is getting nothing but hell from some fans. I really do feel for the bloke..
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Post by boothenboys1863 on Sept 2, 2019 21:29:15 GMT
[/quote]Have you seen our home attendances? I mean the actual people attending rather than quoted figure?
I think those premier league extras have long gone [/quote]
I’d say there’s still a lot left.. a lot that don’t go the game but have the loudest voices and the biggest egos/opinions!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2019 21:33:08 GMT
Regardless of fans being "fickle".. I don't think it's unreasonable for fans to moan at the current predicament. I'm gobsmacked that there hasn't been more criticism of the quality of his signings. Two of them at least .. absolute dross. He's like a frightened rabbit in the headlights at the moment. I've absolutely no idea what the solution is and I suspect the owners don't either. The squad is over staffed, devoid of quality and flexibility. We all know it course.. but it's a clusterfuck of epic proportions. This isn’t jones mess, Oh yes it is.
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Post by boothenboys1863 on Sept 2, 2019 21:38:31 GMT
For them first 5 games this season I know it’s easy to shoot me down because we haven’t won I understand that and respect that but for the first 5 games we had a shape and started to have an identity briefly.. I could finally say what type of team stoke were. For the first time since Pulis, under Pulis we were physical and direct no two ways about it under everyone else it’s just been a case of turn up what happens happens. We weren’t a passing side, we weren’t a direct side, we weren’t a physical side, not attacking niether defensive.
Jones started this season with an identity and has been forced to change due to pressure. Admitted this is where I think he made a mistake he should have stuck with what he believed in, he didn’t make the keyboard warrior comments for nothing. It was a clear shout out that look I’ve seen what the fans are saying I’ve done what they wanted and it doesn’t work.
But even after him doing what all the ‘keyboard warriors’ wanted the same ‘keyboard warriors’ criticise him for doing what they wanted by not keeping a stable starting 11. I can’t believe how other fans can’t see this surely we’re not all that blinkered.
Come on boys! were fucking STOKE CITY, We’re better than than this. Every step along the way, by your side well always stay, remember?
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Post by thehoof on Sept 2, 2019 21:38:42 GMT
Just get behind the manager no matter what.. granted he’s made mistakes by cracking to fan pressure with the changes but the bloke nor the club at times simply can not win.. Let’s start with jones.. He has an idea of formation, fans moan about his idea.. he changes the formation - FANS MOAN! He has a side he wants to play, fans moan about the side.. he changes the side - FANS MOAN! He has a style of football he wants to play, fans moan about his style.. he changes the style of play - FANS MOAN! The man can not do right from wrong, this clearly isn’t a managerial issue it’s deeper than that so get behind the man. Don’t make him change a formation or a starting 11 because he feels pressure of the fans. I don’t care what anyone says the way we played first 4/5 games we were better than we’ve been for a long time. You could see a system, take away individual errors we win 3/4 of them first 5 games. Then on to the club.. You want Pulis out, the club get rid bring in Hughes - FANS MOAN! Hughes comes in does well couple of years you all forget how much you hated him at the start then start loving him. It drops off after Liverpool semi final, you want him out. Club get rid appoint lambert. FANS MOAN! Granted lambert shouldn’t have been appointed but who else was going come to stoke in the position we were in? Then we get relegated. There’s talk of big Sam, moyes the usual - FANS MOAN! We don’t want another dinosaur let’s change it up go for someone young with something to prove. They appoint rowett, 5/6 games in we loose 3-0 home to Wigan - fans start moaning. Fast forward a couple of months we’re chanting about how rowetts football is shit then he’s gone. Jones comes in half a season with another mans squad and yes granted a pre season with his own side we loose 5 of the first 6 - FANS MOAN! Now there’s talk of appointing Pulis, again fans moan.. We also keep saying we should have gone with someone bigger a bigger name than jones steady the ship. Hang on, 12 months ago you were all fuming because people were mentioning big Sam etc now majority of you want someone like him to come in. Look I know it’s shit at the minute, I go every home and most away games I really know it’s shit. But some of the bollocks being spouted by so called fans is pathetic. The sooner the extra premier league fans fuck off the better.. I know I’m going get grief for this but for once open your eyes stoke fans, don’t blame the ball rolling under Butland on jones, don’t blame players missing for 4/5 yards on jones, don’t blame individual mistakes on jones. Like I’ve said before I know it’s him who picks the side but you simply can’t blame jones for stupid individual mistakes. The only bad move jones has made here is cracking to the pressure from the fans for a change in formation, tactics and starting 11. He should have done his own thing and fucking ignored everyone else! Anyway, rant over. Sorry for long post.. Good on you for justifying your opinion. Give me a pre - season, these are my signings (over 60% of whom are not picked), I will give you fast, attacking football and a team to be proud of; fast attacking football featuring a 34 year old left back or a mundane left winger who we try to shoe horn into a position he is not suited for; despite his claims to need a pre- season to implement his system he regularly picks 7 or 8 of last season’s team, so why didn’t he use last season to get the team into his preferred shape? Let’s forget his awful record, let’s forget that he has been spouting the same excuses for 8 months, let’s forget 20 changes in the last 4 games which is indicative of a confused state of mind. Let’s all get up at Sunrise, dance naked around Sir Stan’s Statue and offer totems for a victory, because in my opinion that has more chance of success than Super Druid.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 2, 2019 21:42:41 GMT
For them first 5 games this season I know it’s easy to shoot me down because we haven’t won I understand that and respect that but for the first 5 games we had a shape and started to have an identity briefly.. I could finally say what type of team stoke were. For the first time since Pulis, under Pulis we were physical and direct no two ways about it under everyone else it’s just been a case of turn up what happens happens. We weren’t a passing side, we weren’t a direct side, we weren’t a physical side, not attacking niether defensive. Jones started this season with an identity and has been forced to change due to pressure. Admitted this is where I think he made a mistake he should have stuck with what he believed in, he didn’t make the keyboard warrior comments for nothing. It was a clear shout out that look I’ve seen what the fans are saying I’ve done what they wanted and it doesn’t work. But even after him doing what all the ‘keyboard warriors’ wanted the same ‘keyboard warriors’ criticise him for doing what they wanted by not keeping a stable starting 11. I can’t believe how other fans can’t see this surely we’re not all that blinkered. Come on boys! were fucking STOKE CITY, We’re better than than this. Every step along the way, by your side well always stay, remember? We had a shape that you could drive a jumbo jet through.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 2, 2019 21:48:58 GMT
Have you seen our home attendances? I mean the actual people attending rather than quoted figure? I think those premier league extras have long gone [/quote] I’d say there’s still a lot left.. a lot that don’t go the game but have the loudest voices and the biggest egos/opinions! [/quote] How do you know they are the premier league extras? Bayern moans his bollocks off about anything and everything but hes been going for years. Momo and myself moan only marginally less and we've been going for more years than I care to remember. Same with prestwichpotter and cobham. Died in the wool stokies who travel everywhere from outside the area. Perhaps the premier league extras arent the problem afterall. Maybe it's those of us who have seen all this before and, maybe, just maybe, we arent prepared to sit back quietly and watch it all unfold again.
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Post by boothenboys1863 on Sept 2, 2019 21:50:44 GMT
Just get behind the manager no matter what.. granted he’s made mistakes by cracking to fan pressure with the changes but the bloke nor the club at times simply can not win.. Let’s start with jones.. He has an idea of formation, fans moan about his idea.. he changes the formation - FANS MOAN! He has a side he wants to play, fans moan about the side.. he changes the side - FANS MOAN! He has a style of football he wants to play, fans moan about his style.. he changes the style of play - FANS MOAN! The man can not do right from wrong, this clearly isn’t a managerial issue it’s deeper than that so get behind the man. Don’t make him change a formation or a starting 11 because he feels pressure of the fans. I don’t care what anyone says the way we played first 4/5 games we were better than we’ve been for a long time. You could see a system, take away individual errors we win 3/4 of them first 5 games. Then on to the club.. You want Pulis out, the club get rid bring in Hughes - FANS MOAN! Hughes comes in does well couple of years you all forget how much you hated him at the start then start loving him. It drops off after Liverpool semi final, you want him out. Club get rid appoint lambert. FANS MOAN! Granted lambert shouldn’t have been appointed but who else was going come to stoke in the position we were in? Then we get relegated. There’s talk of big Sam, moyes the usual - FANS MOAN! We don’t want another dinosaur let’s change it up go for someone young with something to prove. They appoint rowett, 5/6 games in we loose 3-0 home to Wigan - fans start moaning. Fast forward a couple of months we’re chanting about how rowetts football is shit then he’s gone. Jones comes in half a season with another mans squad and yes granted a pre season with his own side we loose 5 of the first 6 - FANS MOAN! Now there’s talk of appointing Pulis, again fans moan.. We also keep saying we should have gone with someone bigger a bigger name than jones steady the ship. Hang on, 12 months ago you were all fuming because people were mentioning big Sam etc now majority of you want someone like him to come in. Look I know it’s shit at the minute, I go every home and most away games I really know it’s shit. But some of the bollocks being spouted by so called fans is pathetic. The sooner the extra premier league fans fuck off the better.. I know I’m going get grief for this but for once open your eyes stoke fans, don’t blame the ball rolling under Butland on jones, don’t blame players missing for 4/5 yards on jones, don’t blame individual mistakes on jones. Like I’ve said before I know it’s him who picks the side but you simply can’t blame jones for stupid individual mistakes. The only bad move jones has made here is cracking to the pressure from the fans for a change in formation, tactics and starting 11. He should have done his own thing and fucking ignored everyone else! Anyway, rant over. Sorry for long post.. Good on you for justifying your opinion. Give me a pre - season, these are my signings (over 60% of whom are not picked), I will give you fast, attacking football and a team to be proud of; fast attacking football featuring a 34 year old left back or a mundane left winger who we try to shoe horn into a position he is not suited for; despite his claims to need a pre- season to implement his system he regularly picks 7 or 8 of last season’s team, so why didn’t he use last season to get the team into his preferred shape? Let’s forget his awful record, let’s forget that he has been spouting the same excuses for 8 months, let’s forget 20 changes in the last 4 games which is indicative of a confused state of mind. Let’s all get up at Sunrise, dance naked around Sir Stan’s Statue and offer totems for a victory, because in my opinion that has more chance of success than Super Druid. Fair enough mate I respect what you’re saying and agree with certain points, but look at it from a bigger picture mate.. you get rid of him, what is the next step? There is no way that 3 managers since Hughes have come in and they can’t sort it out? There’s something deeper going on at the club and Nathan jones is getting the stick for it I understand he’s the manager and the face of the club. I’d never criticise the board (atleast I don’t think I would) but no one higher than jones at the club has came out and spoke they’ve all taken a back seat and let jones get the shit they did the same to rowett. Whilst all us fans get in a pickle at who to point the finger at lets look at the bigger picture as I said it’s more than just the manager!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2019 21:51:17 GMT
Have you seen our home attendances? I mean the actual people attending rather than quoted figure? I think those premier league extras have long gone QUOTE I’d say there’s still a lot left.. a lot that don’t go the game but have the loudest voices and the biggest egos/opinions! [/quote] How do you know they are the premier league extras? Bayern moans his bollocks off about anything and everything but hes been going for years. Momo and myself moan only marginally less and we've been going for more years than I care to remember. Same with prestwichpotter and cobham. Died in the wool stokies who travel everywhere from outside the area. Perhaps the premier league extras arent the problem afterall. Maybe it's those of us who have seen all this before and, maybe, just maybe, we arent prepared to sit back quietly and watch it all unfold again.[/quote][/div]
My exact thoughts!
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