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Post by senior on Sept 1, 2019 16:36:48 GMT
Watching Luton since 50s, was at 59 Cup Final so seen it all at our club! Jones joined when we were mid table L2, but under achieving with a squad largely put together by Mick Hartford and John Still, and a fantastic group of youngsters including Justin, who reached I think, last 16 of youth cup with all the big boys. Jones was with us 3 yrs. We gave him his first opportunity- he had played for us for us for a short time in the mid 90s. During his first 18 mths he made a number of errors - poor selections, substituting etc. He had a great team of backroom staff, and we fans loved (were conned) by his consistent badge thumping, and he wouldn’t ever choose to leave except for Barcelona. Yes, he said that, god willing. With a number of good signings (Mick Hartford finding what he wanted) we were promoted from L2. With promotion, after about 8 games and a very average start in L1 there was a key change. Paul Hart, his assistant, left to become director of football at Notts County (and what happened to them?). Jones always claims Hart is his mentor - most at Luton thought good riddance. Steve Rutter was appointed instead. Immediately we became unstoppable for the rest of last season, club record 28 unbeaten etc. Rutter v highly respected FA coach now working abroad from end of last season, with our new managerial appointment. Our fans now refer to Jones very unkindly for dropping us in it at such a crucial stage in January. But with hindsight probably the best thing that has happened. He (allegedly) was less than up front to players, and the Board about your approach. New manager is a class above - in character, Rutteresque coaching ability (grounded with Martinez, Everton, Belgium World Cup etc). He is self effacing just the opposite to Jones, who tries to take all the credit for Luton - that is just not right! He would not EVER even start James Justin until when there was a serious injury to Dan Potts midway through last season, even though the fans were so much wanting that Graeme Jones leaves Nathan Jones standing tactically. He has already tweaked the diamond, and played other systems, depending upon the opposition this season. We all know the diamond is vulnerable to opposition attacking width, and it needs a little more above L1. As he is known Judas Jones is seen at Luton as a bullsxxxxer who is probably too inexperienced to cope with Championship level tactics, abilities, and players’ personalities. Had we kept him, we would probably be where you are but, with less resources, nowhere to go but to relegation. Instead with our management team, board, and fans we have a fighting chance of safe mid table even with the smallest budget in the Championship. And a new ground to look forward to, right in the Town centre. I suspect you have enough good players, fans support, and resources such that you will not do a Sunderland, even if you keep Jones. But promotion or playoffs with him, no way. If Stoke were my club, and with such wealthy owners who can afford to sack and pay off - I would certainly get rid. A replacement - can only think of Lee Bowyer, and his assistant at Charlton Jackson, or Ryan Lowe at Plymouth- they were the ones in our frame if we failed with the very much first choice. Graeme Jones. just cannot blame your board for being taken in by NJ and his fast talking - just the same happened to all of us at Luton.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Sept 1, 2019 16:39:34 GMT
A tad ungrateful
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 1, 2019 16:43:31 GMT
Watching Luton since 50s, was at 59 Cup Final so seen it all at our club! Jones joined when we were mid table L2, but under achieving with a squad largely put together by Mick Hartford and John Still, and a fantastic group of youngsters including Justin, who reached I think, last 16 of youth cup with all the big boys. Jones was with us 3 yrs. We gave him his first opportunity- he had played for us for us for a short time in the mid 90s. During his first 18 mths he made a number of errors - poor selections, substituting etc. He had a great team of backroom staff, and we fans loved (were conned) by his consistent badge thumping, and he wouldn’t ever choose to leave except for Barcelona. Yes, he said that, god willing. With a number of good signings (Mick Hartford finding what he wanted) we were promoted from L2. With promotion, after about 8 games and a very average start in L1 there was a key change. Paul Hart, his assistant, left to become director of football at Notts County (and what happened to them?). Jones always claims Hart is his mentor - most at Luton thought good riddance. Steve Rutter was appointed instead. Immediately we became unstoppable for the rest of last season, club record 28 unbeaten etc. Rutter v highly respected FA coach now working abroad from end of last season, with our new managerial appointment. Our fans now refer to Jones very unkindly for dropping us in it at such a crucial stage in January. But with hindsight probably the best thing that has happened. He (allegedly) was less than up front to players, and the Board about your approach. New manager is a class above - in character, Rutteresque coaching ability (grounded with Martinez, Everton, Belgium World Cup etc). He is self effacing just the opposite to Jones, who tries to take all the credit for Luton - that is just not right! He would not EVER even start James Justin until when there was a serious injury to Dan Potts midway through last season, even though the fans were so much wanting that Graeme Jones leaves Nathan Jones standing tactically. He has already tweaked the diamond, and played other systems, depending upon the opposition this season. We all know the diamond is vulnerable to opposition attacking width, and it needs a little more above L1. As he is known Judas Jones is seen at Luton as a bullsxxxxer who is probably too inexperienced to cope with Championship level tactics, abilities, and players’ personalities. Had we kept him, we would probably be where you are but, with less resources, nowhere to go but to relegation. Instead with our management team, board, and fans we have a fighting chance of safe mid table even with the smallest budget in the Championship. And a new ground to look forward to, right in the Town centre. I suspect you have enough good players, fans support, and resources such that you will not do a Sunderland, even if you keep Jones. But promotion or playoffs with him, no way. If Stoke were my club, and with such wealthy owners who can afford to sack and pay off - I would certainly get rid. A replacement - can only think of Lee Bowyer, and his assistant at Charlton Jackson, or Ryan Lowe at Plymouth- they were the ones in our frame if we failed with the very much first choice. Graeme Jones. just cannot blame your board for being taken in by NJ and his fast talking - just the same happened to all of us at Luton. Thanks for taking the time to come on here and register, so that you could give us your thoughts Senior. Can I ask you one question though ... hand on heart, would you have said all of that, the day after he left you, did you completely discount any possibility of Jones being a success at Stoke from the get go? Cheers
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 16:45:26 GMT
I’d never heard of him.
Small time manager at a small time club.
Nothing has changed my views.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 16:48:33 GMT
Hatter fan - did he play your younger players? We thought he did but someone else said he never played them or did so very reluctantly?
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Post by Northy on Sept 1, 2019 16:48:37 GMT
I heard we are after Graeme Jones to replace Nathan Jones 😉
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Post by serpico on Sept 1, 2019 16:49:45 GMT
So you give him no credit at all ?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 16:53:05 GMT
So you give him no credit at all ? I don’t think he’s said that but you’ve heard it yourself - every good is his going, everything bad is someone else’s fault.
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Post by nott1 on Sept 1, 2019 16:58:59 GMT
Wish he'd bugger off back there......actually anywhere!
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Post by serpico on Sept 1, 2019 17:00:16 GMT
So you give him no credit at all ? I don’t think he’s said that but you’ve heard it yourself - every good is his going, everything bad is someone else’s fault. Well, he doesn’t give him any credit, does he ? Maybe I missed that part in the post. He makes it sound like the success was despite jones. Also, he held his hands up for the woods substitution against Charlton, doesn’t always pass the buck.
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Post by blade01 on Sept 1, 2019 17:15:54 GMT
The Luton fan Senior doesn’t do himself any favours because it seems he’s still bitter about losing their manager to a bigger club, so any comments are tainted and should probably be ignored.
If Jones was that bad then why was there so much anger and vitriol from the Luton fans when he left? Also if Luton’s current manager is so good then surely he should be in the frame to be a replacement. Then he disrespects Stoke by recommending they go after the same managers that Luton targeted when they were in league 1.
His post seems more of a gloat, “you thought you’d stolen our manager but we’ve had the last laugh, you did us a favour because he’s rubbish and now you’re stuck with him”
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Post by senior on Sept 1, 2019 17:17:03 GMT
Final post as not right to use your Board but passions still run high so far as Jones is concerned amongst Luton fans. We do give him credit for promotion from L2 - tho he had a great backroom staff, and full support from Board and fans. I did think he would do well with you. But what no-one knew then were his tactical limitations in the Championship, and without the tactical nouse of Rutter, or the scouting of Hartford. Also didn’t recognise his character- he badly let us down, he misled players, board and fans inJan as he moved to you. Detail well known in Luton but I am not posting on here to get sued . And then, when he has left - tries to take all the credit, but never the blame in his early days with us. Old John Still did far more for us to get us out of the Conference when the FA had turned us over with -30 pts. And then a true legend Mick Hartford, with Rutter got us into the Championship. They both have done far more for our club that Jones - and with real self effacing character. Anyway good luck with him - until it all ends in tears, sooner or later, as it inevitably will do - then it will be everyone else’s fault no doubt. A final - what would I do as Coates - seek to attract Rutter back from Greece or Turkey, and lose Hart, if he is still with you. And in response to question above - no, youth did certainly not get a chance. He only played Justin when injuries forced his hand, and used none at all, of the young crop of talent - until 3 or 4 al left because of a lack of opportunity. Now, he discovered Justin who had been at Luton since aged 7!
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Post by harrysburrow on Sept 1, 2019 17:24:00 GMT
The Luton fan Senior doesn’t do himself any favours because it seems he’s still bitter about losing their manager to a bigger club, so any comments are tainted and should probably be ignored. If Jones was that bad then why was there so much anger and vitriol from the Luton fans when he left? Also if Luton’s current manager is so good then surely he should be in the frame to be a replacement. Then he disrespects Stoke by recommending they go after the same managers that Luton targeted when they were in league 1. His post seems more of a gloat, “you thought you’d stolen our manager but we’ve had the last laugh, you did us a favour because he’s rubbish and now you’re stuck with him” He could have gloated so much more mate?
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Post by Beloved Monkfish on Sept 1, 2019 17:26:07 GMT
Final post as not right to use your Board but passions still run high so far as Jones is concerned amongst Luton fans. We do give him credit for promotion from L2 - tho he had a great backroom staff, and full support from Board and fans. I did think he would do well with you. But what no-one knew then were his tactical limitations in the Championship, and without the tactical nouse of Rutter, or the scouting of Hartford. Also didn’t recognise his character- he badly let us down, he misled players, board and fans inJan as he moved to you. Detail well known in Luton but I am not posting on here to get sued . And then, when he has left - tries to take all the credit, but never the blame in his early days with us. Old John Still did far more for us to get us out of the Conference when the FA had turned us over with -30 pts. And then a true legend Mick Hartford, with Rutter got us into the Championship. They both have done far more for our club that Jones - and with real self effacing character. Anyway good luck with him - until it all ends in tears, sooner or later, as it inevitably will do - then it will be everyone else’s fault no doubt. A final - what would I do as Coates - seek to attract Rutter back from Greece or Turkey, and lose Hart, if he is still with you. Isn't it Harford?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 17:27:37 GMT
The Luton fan Senior doesn’t do himself any favours because it seems he’s still bitter about losing their manager to a bigger club, so any comments are tainted and should probably be ignored. If Jones was that bad then why was there so much anger and vitriol from the Luton fans when he left? Also if Luton’s current manager is so good then surely he should be in the frame to be a replacement. Then he disrespects Stoke by recommending they go after the same managers that Luton targeted when they were in league 1. His post seems more of a gloat, “you thought you’d stolen our manager but we’ve had the last laugh, you did us a favour because he’s rubbish and now you’re stuck with him” As a Blades fan you should think yourself lucky you haven’t had to listen to NJ for the last 8 months 😂 He’s Mr Me Me Me
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Post by senior on Sept 1, 2019 17:28:34 GMT
Beloved Monkfish Typo - thx
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Post by strangerthingshappen on Sept 1, 2019 17:30:43 GMT
The Luton fan Senior doesn’t do himself any favours because it seems he’s still bitter about losing their manager to a bigger club, so any comments are tainted and should probably be ignored. If Jones was that bad then why was there so much anger and vitriol from the Luton fans when he left? Also if Luton’s current manager is so good then surely he should be in the frame to be a replacement. Then he disrespects Stoke by recommending they go after the same managers that Luton targeted when they were in league 1. His post seems more of a gloat, “you thought you’d stolen our manager but we’ve had the last laugh, you did us a favour because he’s rubbish and now you’re stuck with him” He could have gloated so much more mate? Hes either got too much sunday afternoon time to waiste or he speaks some sense.....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 17:33:04 GMT
Final post as not right to use your Board but passions still run high so far as Jones is concerned amongst Luton fans. We do give him credit for promotion from L2 - tho he had a great backroom staff, and full support from Board and fans. I did think he would do well with you. But what no-one knew then were his tactical limitations in the Championship, and without the tactical nouse of Rutter, or the scouting of Hartford. Also didn’t recognise his character- he badly let us down, he misled players, board and fans inJan as he moved to you. Detail well known in Luton but I am not posting on here to get sued . And then, when he has left - tries to take all the credit, but never the blame in his early days with us. Old John Still did far more for us to get us out of the Conference when the FA had turned us over with -30 pts. And then a true legend Mick Hartford, with Rutter got us into the Championship. They both have done far more for our club that Jones - and with real self effacing character. Anyway good luck with him - until it all ends in tears, sooner or later, as it inevitably will do - then it will be everyone else’s fault no doubt. A final - what would I do as Coates - seek to attract Rutter back from Greece or Turkey, and lose Hart, if he is still with you. And in response to question above - no, youth did certainly not get a chance. He only played Justin when injuries forced his hand, and used none at all, of the young crop of talent - until 3 or 4 al left because of a lack of opportunity. Now, he discovered Justin who had been at Luton since aged 7! Thanks for the clarification on the youth bit. We had begun to suspect as much.
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Post by hogansgoals on Sept 1, 2019 17:36:14 GMT
Final post as not right to use your Board but passions still run high so far as Jones is concerned amongst Luton fans. We do give him credit for promotion from L2 - tho he had a great backroom staff, and full support from Board and fans. I did think he would do well with you. But what no-one knew then were his tactical limitations in the Championship, and without the tactical nouse of Rutter, or the scouting of Hartford. Also didn’t recognise his character- he badly let us down, he misled players, board and fans inJan as he moved to you. Detail well known in Luton but I am not posting on here to get sued . And then, when he has left - tries to take all the credit, but never the blame in his early days with us. Old John Still did far more for us to get us out of the Conference when the FA had turned us over with -30 pts. And then a true legend Mick Hartford, with Rutter got us into the Championship. They both have done far more for our club that Jones - and with real self effacing character. Anyway good luck with him - until it all ends in tears, sooner or later, as it inevitably will do - then it will be everyone else’s fault no doubt. A final - what would I do as Coates - seek to attract Rutter back from Greece or Turkey, and lose Hart, if he is still with you. And in response to question above - no, youth did certainly not get a chance. He only played Justin when injuries forced his hand, and used none at all, of the young crop of talent - until 3 or 4 al left because of a lack of opportunity. Now, he discovered Justin who had been at Luton since aged 7! who's Mick Hartford? I thought he was called Mick Harford correct me if I'm wrong
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 1, 2019 17:36:17 GMT
Hindsight ehh
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Post by felonious on Sept 1, 2019 17:41:34 GMT
Watching Luton since 50s, was at 59 Cup Final so seen it all at our club! Jones joined when we were mid table L2, but under achieving with a squad largely put together by Mick Hartford and John Still, and a fantastic group of youngsters including Justin, who reached I think, last 16 of youth cup with all the big boys. Jones was with us 3 yrs. We gave him his first opportunity- he had played for us for us for a short time in the mid 90s. During his first 18 mths he made a number of errors - poor selections, substituting etc. He had a great team of backroom staff, and we fans loved (were conned) by his consistent badge thumping, and he wouldn’t ever choose to leave except for Barcelona. Yes, he said that, god willing. With a number of good signings (Mick Hartford finding what he wanted) we were promoted from L2. With promotion, after about 8 games and a very average start in L1 there was a key change. Paul Hart, his assistant, left to become director of football at Notts County (and what happened to them?). Jones always claims Hart is his mentor - most at Luton thought good riddance. Steve Rutter was appointed instead. Immediately we became unstoppable for the rest of last season, club record 28 unbeaten etc. Rutter v highly respected FA coach now working abroad from end of last season, with our new managerial appointment. Our fans now refer to Jones very unkindly for dropping us in it at such a crucial stage in January. But with hindsight probably the best thing that has happened. He (allegedly) was less than up front to players, and the Board about your approach. New manager is a class above - in character, Rutteresque coaching ability (grounded with Martinez, Everton, Belgium World Cup etc). He is self effacing just the opposite to Jones, who tries to take all the credit for Luton - that is just not right! He would not EVER even start James Justin until when there was a serious injury to Dan Potts midway through last season, even though the fans were so much wanting that Graeme Jones leaves Nathan Jones standing tactically. He has already tweaked the diamond, and played other systems, depending upon the opposition this season. We all know the diamond is vulnerable to opposition attacking width, and it needs a little more above L1. As he is known Judas Jones is seen at Luton as a bullsxxxxer who is probably too inexperienced to cope with Championship level tactics, abilities, and players’ personalities. Had we kept him, we would probably be where you are but, with less resources, nowhere to go but to relegation. Instead with our management team, board, and fans we have a fighting chance of safe mid table even with the smallest budget in the Championship. And a new ground to look forward to, right in the Town centre. I suspect you have enough good players, fans support, and resources such that you will not do a Sunderland, even if you keep Jones. But promotion or playoffs with him, no way. If Stoke were my club, and with such wealthy owners who can afford to sack and pay off - I would certainly get rid. A replacement - can only think of Lee Bowyer, and his assistant at Charlton Jackson, or Ryan Lowe at Plymouth- they were the ones in our frame if we failed with the very much first choice. Graeme Jones. just cannot blame your board for being taken in by NJ and his fast talking - just the same happened to all of us at Luton. Are you sure he said Barcelona and not Stokelona?
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Post by kidcrewbob on Sept 1, 2019 17:53:40 GMT
More evidence of our naive board being taken in by a bullshitter.........but I think we know this now surely. Makes Rowett look like Guardiola
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Post by wilcopotter on Sept 1, 2019 17:57:59 GMT
Not doing a Sunderland. I wouldn’t put too much money on that. We’re on the right trajectory right now.
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Post by roylandstoke on Sept 1, 2019 18:25:09 GMT
Watching Luton since 50s, was at 59 Cup Final so seen it all at our club! Jones joined when we were mid table L2, but under achieving with a squad largely put together by Mick Hartford and John Still, and a fantastic group of youngsters including Justin, who reached I think, last 16 of youth cup with all the big boys. Jones was with us 3 yrs. We gave him his first opportunity- he had played for us for us for a short time in the mid 90s. During his first 18 mths he made a number of errors - poor selections, substituting etc. He had a great team of backroom staff, and we fans loved (were conned) by his consistent badge thumping, and he wouldn’t ever choose to leave except for Barcelona. Yes, he said that, god willing. With a number of good signings (Mick Hartford finding what he wanted) we were promoted from L2. With promotion, after about 8 games and a very average start in L1 there was a key change. Paul Hart, his assistant, left to become director of football at Notts County (and what happened to them?). Jones always claims Hart is his mentor - most at Luton thought good riddance. Steve Rutter was appointed instead. Immediately we became unstoppable for the rest of last season, club record 28 unbeaten etc. Rutter v highly respected FA coach now working abroad from end of last season, with our new managerial appointment. Our fans now refer to Jones very unkindly for dropping us in it at such a crucial stage in January. But with hindsight probably the best thing that has happened. He (allegedly) was less than up front to players, and the Board about your approach. New manager is a class above - in character, Rutteresque coaching ability (grounded with Martinez, Everton, Belgium World Cup etc). He is self effacing just the opposite to Jones, who tries to take all the credit for Luton - that is just not right! He would not EVER even start James Justin until when there was a serious injury to Dan Potts midway through last season, even though the fans were so much wanting that Graeme Jones leaves Nathan Jones standing tactically. He has already tweaked the diamond, and played other systems, depending upon the opposition this season. We all know the diamond is vulnerable to opposition attacking width, and it needs a little more above L1. As he is known Judas Jones is seen at Luton as a bullsxxxxer who is probably too inexperienced to cope with Championship level tactics, abilities, and players’ personalities. Had we kept him, we would probably be where you are but, with less resources, nowhere to go but to relegation. Instead with our management team, board, and fans we have a fighting chance of safe mid table even with the smallest budget in the Championship. And a new ground to look forward to, right in the Town centre. I suspect you have enough good players, fans support, and resources such that you will not do a Sunderland, even if you keep Jones. But promotion or playoffs with him, no way. If Stoke were my club, and with such wealthy owners who can afford to sack and pay off - I would certainly get rid. A replacement - can only think of Lee Bowyer, and his assistant at Charlton Jackson, or Ryan Lowe at Plymouth- they were the ones in our frame if we failed with the very much first choice. Graeme Jones. just cannot blame your board for being taken in by NJ and his fast talking - just the same happened to all of us at Luton. So you don't want him back then?
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Sept 1, 2019 18:30:50 GMT
So you give him no credit at all ? I don’t think he’s said that but you’ve heard it yourself - every good is his going, everything bad is someone else’s fault. You don't half talk some shit.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 18:35:01 GMT
I don’t think he’s said that but you’ve heard it yourself - every good is his going, everything bad is someone else’s fault. You don't half talk some shit. Haven’t you go better things to do like have a pop at Joe Allen on the thread? The man talks out of his arse and it’s all about him.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Sept 1, 2019 18:51:30 GMT
You don't half talk some shit. Haven’t you go better things to do like have a pop at Joe Allen on the thread? The man talks out of his arse and it’s all about him. The irony...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 18:53:02 GMT
Haven’t you go better things to do like have a pop at Joe Allen on the thread? The man talks out of his arse and it’s all about him. The irony... Yep I’m the one whose been wrong about NJ all along. Chopping and changing, signings aren’t right, not doing a single thing he’s said he would do despite having 8 months, 11 players and a preseason.
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Post by Dutchpeter on Sept 1, 2019 19:26:59 GMT
Watching Luton since 50s, was at 59 Cup Final so seen it all at our club! Jones joined when we were mid table L2, but under achieving with a squad largely put together by Mick Hartford and John Still, and a fantastic group of youngsters including Justin, who reached I think, last 16 of youth cup with all the big boys. Jones was with us 3 yrs. We gave him his first opportunity- he had played for us for us for a short time in the mid 90s. During his first 18 mths he made a number of errors - poor selections, substituting etc. He had a great team of backroom staff, and we fans loved (were conned) by his consistent badge thumping, and he wouldn’t ever choose to leave except for Barcelona. Yes, he said that, god willing. With a number of good signings (Mick Hartford finding what he wanted) we were promoted from L2. With promotion, after about 8 games and a very average start in L1 there was a key change. Paul Hart, his assistant, left to become director of football at Notts County (and what happened to them?). Jones always claims Hart is his mentor - most at Luton thought good riddance. Steve Rutter was appointed instead. Immediately we became unstoppable for the rest of last season, club record 28 unbeaten etc. Rutter v highly respected FA coach now working abroad from end of last season, with our new managerial appointment. Our fans now refer to Jones very unkindly for dropping us in it at such a crucial stage in January. But with hindsight probably the best thing that has happened. He (allegedly) was less than up front to players, and the Board about your approach. New manager is a class above - in character, Rutteresque coaching ability (grounded with Martinez, Everton, Belgium World Cup etc). He is self effacing just the opposite to Jones, who tries to take all the credit for Luton - that is just not right! He would not EVER even start James Justin until when there was a serious injury to Dan Potts midway through last season, even though the fans were so much wanting that Graeme Jones leaves Nathan Jones standing tactically. He has already tweaked the diamond, and played other systems, depending upon the opposition this season. We all know the diamond is vulnerable to opposition attacking width, and it needs a little more above L1. As he is known Judas Jones is seen at Luton as a bullsxxxxer who is probably too inexperienced to cope with Championship level tactics, abilities, and players’ personalities. Had we kept him, we would probably be where you are but, with less resources, nowhere to go but to relegation. Instead with our management team, board, and fans we have a fighting chance of safe mid table even with the smallest budget in the Championship. And a new ground to look forward to, right in the Town centre. I suspect you have enough good players, fans support, and resources such that you will not do a Sunderland, even if you keep Jones. But promotion or playoffs with him, no way. If Stoke were my club, and with such wealthy owners who can afford to sack and pay off - I would certainly get rid. A replacement - can only think of Lee Bowyer, and his assistant at Charlton Jackson, or Ryan Lowe at Plymouth- they were the ones in our frame if we failed with the very much first choice. Graeme Jones. just cannot blame your board for being taken in by NJ and his fast talking - just the same happened to all of us at Luton. Did you ever remember an episode of Space 1999 called ‘The rules of Luton’?
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Post by hogansgoals on Sept 1, 2019 19:28:48 GMT
Bring on the next derby Fan bring on a Luton fan bring on a Barnsley fan I don't care
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