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Post by serpico on Sept 14, 2019 21:10:16 GMT
Randomly and out of nowhere earlier after the game It came into my mind that if Jones does leave us, Peter Coates may be lining a certain Martin O'Neil up to replace him 🙄! Sure he's been linked in the past, he's unemployed right now and he'd likely be someone Coates would go for as a 'safe' pair of hands! Hope my premonition remains just that, but havent seen him linked anywhere & sure he'd be there or there abouts in Coates thoughts & plans If we do choose on a change In direction.. Think he more or less agreed last time, hadn't he ? changed his mind at the 11th hour and said he wanted to honour a verbal agreement he had made with ireland, something like that anyway.
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Post by callas12 on Sept 14, 2019 21:11:23 GMT
If you look at NJ interview I think he knows he's a goner. He's more or less saying its all out of his hands now, which suggest he was given today to come up with a result. Joe Allen might have just saved him for another day. The only people hoping he stays are Brentford FC who will be rubbing their hands. I thought this earlier after the Radio Stoke interview when he said they'd been practising defending cross balls into the box for 2x solid days and then that happened today. He then said something similar to 'I really dont know what else I can do' which I thought was quite telling & a kind of throwing the towel in kind of comment.
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Post by nigerianstokie on Sept 14, 2019 21:12:54 GMT
More than our last 4 managers could manage. TP really deserves more credit for his defensive astuteness. He's brilliant at it, and clearly has his methods. Have you seen any inclination that Jones has any method at all apart from his "scatter gun" approach and hope things are right? There's a reason we got up in the face of many opponents under TP. He's ruthless, his teams often resemble that. Sometimes simple, yes, but defensively solid. I want us to be solid again. You can be solid but entertaining. Pulis can’t.
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Post by callas12 on Sept 14, 2019 21:13:21 GMT
Randomly and out of nowhere earlier after the game It came into my mind that if Jones does leave us, Peter Coates may be lining a certain Martin O'Neil up to replace him 🙄! Sure he's been linked in the past, he's unemployed right now and he'd likely be someone Coates would go for as a 'safe' pair of hands! Hope my premonition remains just that, but havent seen him linked anywhere & sure he'd be there or there abouts in Coates thoughts & plans If we do choose on a change In direction.. I hope to Christ you’re wrong mate😮 Me too pal but we know how set in his ways Peter can be. He went back in for Pulis a second time, wouldnt surprise me if O'Neils still on speed dial after their last discussions! No compo fork out too for him, he ticks alot of Coates CV boxes.
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Post by stokeykez on Sept 14, 2019 21:13:48 GMT
Randomly and out of nowhere earlier after the game It came into my mind that if Jones does leave us, Peter Coates may be lining a certain Martin O'Neil up to replace him 🙄! Sure he's been linked in the past, he's unemployed right now and he'd likely be someone Coates would go for as a 'safe' pair of hands! Hope my premonition remains just that, but havent seen him linked anywhere & sure he'd be there or there abouts in Coates thoughts & plans If we do choose on a change In direction.. Think he more or less agreed last time, hadn't he ? changed his mind at the 11th hour and said he wanted to honour a verbal agreement he had made with ireland, something like that anyway. After a public snub last time and knowing that roy Keane will be as welcome as a far in a lift cannot see this at all
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Post by onesteino on Sept 14, 2019 21:14:39 GMT
Wouldn't surprise me if we've given nj permission to pursue the Lincoln interest we get a little compo and it looks like it's a mutual agreement to let him go. Clearly not working, and the more we get cut adrift at the bottom, 3 years of losing is it going to all of a sudden change and springboard back up the table, this is a survival contest now nothing more , nothing less. Would have a big word with hughton or javi Gracia, whatever the coates know it will cost but it'll make up for the complete shambles of appointed managers over the last 3 years Chopper do you know if weve had conversations with anyone else?? Have we tempted harry Redknapp out on his car yet? The Lincoln-link is very interesting. It obviously doesn’t work out well for him at SCFC and NJ leaving for Lincoln would be beneficial for both us and him. He has to forfeit a bit of cash but will leave “voluntarily” and not having the stigma of being sacked attached to him. Perhaps some sort of compensation from us could persuade him? The big question is what he favors: money or his reputation. What is the link with Lincoln mate? Not seen anything on this and couldn't find anything online just.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 14, 2019 21:14:55 GMT
I hope to Christ you’re wrong mate😮 Me too pal but we know how set in his ways Peter can be. He went back in for Pulis a second time, wouldnt surprise me if he's still on speed dial after their last discussions! Mate I’ve said for weeks now the longer this goes on we all know who’ll return
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Post by march4 on Sept 14, 2019 21:15:07 GMT
TP really deserves more credit for his defensive astuteness. He's brilliant at it, and clearly has his methods. Have you seen any inclination that Jones has any method at all apart from his "scatter gun" approach and hope things are right? There's a reason we got up in the face of many opponents under TP. He's ruthless, his teams often resemble that. Sometimes simple, yes, but defensively solid. I want us to be solid again. You can be solid but entertaining. Pulis can’t. Beating Bolton 5-0 in the first FA Cup semi-final win our 150 year history must have been a dream.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2019 21:15:14 GMT
If you look at NJ interview I think he knows he's a goner. He's more or less saying its all out of his hands now, which suggest he was given today to come up with a result. Joe Allen might have just saved him for another day. The only people hoping he stays are Brentford FC who will be rubbing their hands. I thought this earlier after the Radio Stoke interview when he said they'd been practising defending cross balls into the box for 2x solid days and then that happened today. He then said something similar to 'I really dont know what else I can do' which I thought was quite telling & a kind of throwing the towel in kind of comment. It seemed an odd choice of CBs if that’s what he’s been worried about all week though. Bruno’s not the best with his head nor is Lindsay and CCV doesn’t seem to be either and Batths left on the bench and Collins nowhere to be seen (not sure if he’s injured or summat)
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Post by citynickscfc on Sept 14, 2019 21:16:59 GMT
TP really deserves more credit for his defensive astuteness. He's brilliant at it, and clearly has his methods. Have you seen any inclination that Jones has any method at all apart from his "scatter gun" approach and hope things are right? There's a reason we got up in the face of many opponents under TP. He's ruthless, his teams often resemble that. Sometimes simple, yes, but defensively solid. I want us to be solid again. You can be solid but entertaining. Pulis can’t. I was very much entertained during my time following Stoke city under Pulis, as much as under any other manager but for a brief time under Hughes even he adopted TP's spine and actually managed to evolve it, before dismantling it. I don't find NJ entertaining. Lambert was less entertaining, Rowett was less successful but similar -except he wanted the sack and got it.... Right now I want points and not entertainment. "If you want entertainment go to the circus" it something along those lines 😄 Hard working 442 and a victory at home please
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Post by chigstoke on Sept 14, 2019 21:17:13 GMT
When your manager sounds as defeated as Jones does, there isn't much hope is there? He sounds completely fed up and if he doesn't know what else to do then it's going to be best for all concerned that he gets relieved of his duties.
That isn't something you can afford to carry around longer than we have done now.
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Post by callas12 on Sept 14, 2019 21:18:38 GMT
I thought this earlier after the Radio Stoke interview when he said they'd been practising defending cross balls into the box for 2x solid days and then that happened today. He then said something similar to 'I really dont know what else I can do' which I thought was quite telling & a kind of throwing the towel in kind of comment. It seemed an odd choice of CBs if that’s what he’s been worried about all week though. Bruno’s not the best with his head nor is Lindsay and CCV doesn’t seem to be either and Batths left on the bench and Collins nowhere to be seen (not sure if he’s injured or summat) Yeah agreed.. I've given up trying to find any logic from what Jones says in trying to predict his match line ups. He's not even making subtle little adjustments is he, 5 changes again today is just crazy. It's like playing pin the tail in the donkey in trying to predict a Jones team line up these days! Perhaps that's how he does it!
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Post by nigerianstokie on Sept 14, 2019 21:19:25 GMT
You can be solid but entertaining. Pulis can’t. Beating Bolton 5-0 in the first FA Cup semi-final win our 150 year history must have been a dream. That was almost a decade ago. Football has moved on considerably since then. Pulis’ type are a dying breed. Thankfully.
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Post by nigerianstokie on Sept 14, 2019 21:23:47 GMT
You can be solid but entertaining. Pulis can’t. I was very much entertained during my time following Stoke city under Pulis, as much as under any other manager but for a brief time under Hughes even he adopted TP's spine and actually managed to evolve it, before dismantling it. I don't find NJ entertaining. Lambert was less entertaining, Rowett was less successful but similar -except he wanted the sack and got it.... Right now I want points and not entertainment. "If you want entertainment go to the circus" it something along those lines 😄 Hard working 442 and a victory at home please Hughes was entertaining for 3 years, not just a brief spell like you say. Why is it too much to ask for a manager who provides entertainment whilst getting results? And 442 is so dated it’s constant calls are bordering on embarrassing.
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 14, 2019 21:27:01 GMT
Beating Bolton 5-0 in the first FA Cup semi-final win our 150 year history must have been a dream. That was almost a decade ago. Football has moved on considerably since then. Pulis’ type are a dying breed. Thankfully. Yes, football has moved on...it's all about sexy diamonds now, and other formations that footballers can't comprehend.
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Post by LGH87 on Sept 14, 2019 21:27:33 GMT
There are good managers that play good football out there. You just have to be able to go and find them, look at Norwich, Swansea, Sheff Utd etc.
Something I don’t believe our board is capable of doing.
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Post by callas12 on Sept 14, 2019 21:30:20 GMT
Me too pal but we know how set in his ways Peter can be. He went back in for Pulis a second time, wouldnt surprise me if he's still on speed dial after their last discussions! Mate I’ve said for weeks now the longer this goes on we all know who’ll return Another one on Peter's speed dial list, probably the top of it too! Been here before havent we, can you imagine another final day showdown like the one we had against Reading. Wheres Akinbiyi when we need him 🤣
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Post by serpico on Sept 14, 2019 21:33:22 GMT
Beating Bolton 5-0 in the first FA Cup semi-final win our 150 year history must have been a dream. That was almost a decade ago. Football has moved on considerably since then. Pulis’ type are a dying breed. Thankfully. But don’t we just need someone to oversee the stabilising of the ship now though ? He’d more or less gaurentee that. He’d likely have us in and around the top six by next season.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 14, 2019 21:35:53 GMT
Mate I’ve said for weeks now the longer this goes on we all know who’ll return Another one on Peter's speed dial list, probably the top of it too! Been here before havent we, can you imagine another final day showdown like the one we had against Reading. Wheres Akinbiyi when we need him 🤣 I hope we don’t need a run like we had then mate to get out of it😮
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Post by mattyd on Sept 14, 2019 21:38:24 GMT
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Post by callas12 on Sept 14, 2019 21:39:52 GMT
Another one on Peter's speed dial list, probably the top of it too! Been here before havent we, can you imagine another final day showdown like the one we had against Reading. Wheres Akinbiyi when we need him 🤣 I hope we don’t need a run like we had then mate to get out of it😮 Its hard to predict what's going to happen right now or where we're going to end up isnt it mate.. Choppy waters ahead, can only see things worsening before they improve any.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 14, 2019 21:42:27 GMT
I hope we don’t need a run like we had then mate to get out of it😮 Its hard to predict what's going to happen right now or where we're going to end up isnt it mate.. Choppy waters ahead, can only see things worsening before they improve any. Unfortunately I agree mate.Is Darren still going away games mate
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Post by nigerianstokie on Sept 14, 2019 21:43:11 GMT
That was almost a decade ago. Football has moved on considerably since then. Pulis’ type are a dying breed. Thankfully. But don’t we just need someone to oversee the stabilising of the ship now though ? He’d more or less gaurentee that. He’d likely have us in and around the top six by next season. He would have 10 years ago. He is a busted flush and his methods no longer work, as evidenced by the Middlesbrough failure. You can have a steady pair of hands that again, play entertaining football I am sure.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Sept 14, 2019 21:44:48 GMT
Better be quick, Stoke
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Post by march4 on Sept 14, 2019 21:45:44 GMT
Beating Bolton 5-0 in the first FA Cup semi-final win our 150 year history must have been a dream. That was almost a decade ago. Football has moved on considerably since then. Pulis’ type are a dying breed. Thankfully. On the contrary, TP is improving with age. With every year his experience increases and this is where he has the edge on younger managers. Put him in charge of Man City and watch their record points haul and monopoly of trophies.
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Post by callas12 on Sept 14, 2019 21:45:50 GMT
Its hard to predict what's going to happen right now or where we're going to end up isnt it mate.. Choppy waters ahead, can only see things worsening before they improve any. Unfortunately I agree mate.Is Darren still going away games mate He's been a few but not as often as usual, not through his choice though. Think his new missus is restricting his Saturday passes for away games 😉🤣 .. We did go Charlton and he was trying to talk me into going Brentford earlier!
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Post by nigerianstokie on Sept 14, 2019 21:48:08 GMT
That was almost a decade ago. Football has moved on considerably since then. Pulis’ type are a dying breed. Thankfully. On the contrary, TP is improving with age. With every year his experience increases and this is where he has the edge on younger managers. Put him in charge of Man City and watch their record points haul and monopoly of trophies. Clearly on a wind up. Goodnight.
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Post by serpico on Sept 14, 2019 21:48:34 GMT
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Post by serpico on Sept 14, 2019 21:49:19 GMT
On the contrary, TP is improving with age. With every year his experience increases and this is where he has the edge on younger managers. Put him in charge of Man City and watch their record points haul and monopoly of trophies. Clearly on a wind up. Goodnight. You don’t know march very well, do you ? 😊
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Post by Gob Bluth on Sept 14, 2019 21:51:37 GMT
Beating Bolton 5-0 in the first FA Cup semi-final win our 150 year history must have been a dream. That was almost a decade ago. Football has moved on considerably since then. Pulis’ type are a dying breed. Thankfully. He was manager of the season in the premier league in 2013/14 turning Palace round when they were written off. We couldn't give the job away to anyone decent when we were in the Premier League, we had to get Lambert who'd a tattered record in the Championship. I'd argue that the only thing we've been good at in recent years is having average managers turn the job down. I admire fans who can watch us lose and lose and lose while maintaining footballing style morals. My question would be at what point does TP become a viable option? What happens if the next manager has a 5% win record? Maybe when we're mid-table in league one?
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