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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 14:56:48 GMT
For the life of me I feel like I have seen nothing, the club haven't said anything but not a single journalist that I'm aware of has given their two cents on the situation. Why aren't we being linked with anyone and why isn't this being written about?
Even Nixon has been quiet as far as I know.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 14:58:48 GMT
The silence is deafening. Usually in these situations the chairman or CEO would have made a statement by now
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Post by questionable on Sept 1, 2019 15:03:19 GMT
I’d say we’ll hear something tomorrow, the real problem is the owners ability to see the problem they alone have created.
I can imagine Mrs Coates giving Peter a right ear bashing for even contemplating that their son is remotely responsible.
On another note can’t wait for the sequel from Jon on how they sourced NJ’s replacement,
I’m going for a sentinel ad advert response
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Post by mcw on Sept 1, 2019 15:05:31 GMT
Nope, perhaps they have strapped themselves in for the “project” for good or bad. This is such a shitty situation as we are spiralling downwards and difficult to know what the best of a horrible set of choices to make- trust in Jones through thick and thin to sort this and build some continuity or get back on the sacking merry go round and risk actually setting us back further in the long term (reputation as a sacking club, even more deadwood as a new manager brings in his own players where possible). Bad bad times
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Sept 1, 2019 15:13:31 GMT
Nope, perhaps they have strapped themselves in for the “project” for good or bad. This is such a shitty situation as we are spiralling downwards and difficult to know what the best of a horrible set of choices to make- trust in Jones through thick and thin to sort this and build some continuity or get back on the sacking merry go round and risk actually setting us back further in the long term (reputation as a sacking club, even more deadwood as a new manager brings in his own players where possible). Bad bad times I would buy into that if Jones had signed young, athletic, energetic players instead of the pile of shit that started yesterday! Of his buys Ward, Batth, Smith are the opposite of what he said he wanted! Gregory did ok but he's 31! Wonder what the average age of the team was yesterday?
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Post by Gary Hackett on Sept 1, 2019 15:15:57 GMT
None, there'll need to be a couple more bad results first I fear.
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Post by stokiesteve on Sept 1, 2019 15:21:40 GMT
to be fair it’s a tough scenario.
They don’t want us to be a hire and fire club
But we can’t carry on like this either.
They really thought, as did we all, that NJ was ‘the one’.
My view is he’ll get more time.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 1, 2019 15:24:54 GMT
Does the Chapple appointment complicate things potentially?
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Post by FrankButcher on Sept 1, 2019 15:26:08 GMT
None, there'll need to be a couple more bad results first I fear. From the games I've been too this season Birmingham were by far the worst team I've seen how they got back into the game never mind win left many in the away end lost for words they were woeful doesn't get any lower as things stand. I wouldn't risk giving him the Bristol City, Brentford or Forest games we're already 4 points adrift. Times right to change it and give the new manager the two week break to settle in.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 15:26:39 GMT
Does the Chapple appointment complicate things potentially? It shouldn't do as the head of recruitment is separate to the manager. He will be aligned to the clubs philosophy which has been designed by the owners and Technical Director. Oh, you're talking about us aren't you?
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Post by wuzza on Sept 1, 2019 15:26:59 GMT
Does the Chapple appointment complicate things potentially? That’s what I was thinking - there’s a bloke that’s been left dangling if ever there was one.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Sept 1, 2019 15:27:36 GMT
Tbf Coates jnr was seen shaking his head yesterday on various occasions. Pretty sure that means Jones is nailed on to be sacked, obviously.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Sept 1, 2019 15:27:41 GMT
He’ll be given a few more games for me.
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 1, 2019 15:30:34 GMT
The line in the Sentinel last week was pretty interesting. But suppose it goes without saying that someone with 1 win in 17 could go at any time, regardless of how much capital the owners have invested in him? www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-leeds-jones-job-3251015They are desperate to reach the two-week international break after Saturday's trip to Birmingham so they can take a step back, take stock and assess things with a cool head.
They remain keen to keep Jones after investing so much time and resource into the Welshman, but are equally concerned about a league position, even after only five games, that no-one could have reasonably anticipated. On Chapple, presumably it depends how far down the line it is and how central Jones was to it? As was pointed out, though, he did work with Hughton, didn't he?
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Sept 1, 2019 15:32:48 GMT
He’ll be given a few more games for me. I would imagine a few more games would cement our place at the bottom giving us no chance of attracting anybody half decent to sort out the mess.
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Post by silsdenstokie on Sept 1, 2019 15:33:35 GMT
I may be wrong but I seem to recall Rowett was fairly sudden wasn't it, the Monday after the Shrewsbury match. Don't recall any preceding message from the club.
Has Chapple been confirmed yet?
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Sept 1, 2019 15:44:01 GMT
I may be wrong but I seem to recall Rowett was fairly sudden wasn't it, the Monday after the Shrewsbury match. Don't recall any preceding message from the club. Has Chapple been confirmed yet? The fans aren't putting anywhere near the amount of pressure on the club that they were over Rowett. We'll see, but I think he's here for a while yet. Jon seems to have bought in to the project and won't easily pull the plug. IMHO.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 1, 2019 15:46:27 GMT
The line in the Sentinel last week was pretty interesting. But suppose it goes without saying that someone with 1 win in 17 could go at any time, regardless of how much capital the owners have invested in him? www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-leeds-jones-job-3251015They are desperate to reach the two-week international break after Saturday's trip to Birmingham so they can take a step back, take stock and assess things with a cool head.
They remain keen to keep Jones after investing so much time and resource into the Welshman, but are equally concerned about a league position, even after only five games, that no-one could have reasonably anticipated. On Chapple, presumably it depends how far down the line it is and how central Jones was to it? As was pointed out, though, he did work with Hughton, didn't he? He did, but it seems like he also signed a lot of players that Hughton wasn't really up for playing...
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Post by Gary Hackett on Sept 1, 2019 15:47:26 GMT
The line in the Sentinel last week was pretty interesting. But suppose it goes without saying that someone with 1 win in 17 could go at any time, regardless of how much capital the owners have invested in him? www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-leeds-jones-job-3251015They are desperate to reach the two-week international break after Saturday's trip to Birmingham so they can take a step back, take stock and assess things with a cool head.
They remain keen to keep Jones after investing so much time and resource into the Welshman, but are equally concerned about a league position, even after only five games, that no-one could have reasonably anticipated. On Chapple, presumably it depends how far down the line it is and how central Jones was to it? As was pointed out, though, he did work with Hughton, didn't he? Yeah he's worked with Hughton before so it could stop an embarrassing situation where we'd have to backtrack on Chappel.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Sept 1, 2019 15:48:54 GMT
There is zero chance Jones will be in charge for the next game.
Zero
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 15:49:27 GMT
The line in the Sentinel last week was pretty interesting. But suppose it goes without saying that someone with 1 win in 17 could go at any time, regardless of how much capital the owners have invested in him? www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-leeds-jones-job-3251015They are desperate to reach the two-week international break after Saturday's trip to Birmingham so they can take a step back, take stock and assess things with a cool head.
They remain keen to keep Jones after investing so much time and resource into the Welshman, but are equally concerned about a league position, even after only five games, that no-one could have reasonably anticipated. On Chapple, presumably it depends how far down the line it is and how central Jones was to it? As was pointed out, though, he did work with Hughton, didn't he? It's impossible to second guess because we don't know the position they are in. Feelers would have already gone out to candidates they think are right for the club (no laughing at the back), but as fans we'll never know who they are, what their credentials are or if they're even interested. They might be looking at a Championship Lambert for all we know, in which case (I remember that famous night like yesterday), are they self aware enough to hold on a bit longer just incase he does turn it around? They're in an awful quandary here but I have no sympathy at all. It is all of their own making.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Sept 1, 2019 15:51:19 GMT
to be fair it’s a tough scenario. They don’t want us to be a hire and fire club But we can’t carry on like this either. They really thought, as did we all, that NJ was ‘the one’. My view is he’ll get more time. I thought that. If we sack Jones, bring in someone else and are still shit, then that'd turn us into a club who had 2 different managers per season for 3 seasons in a row and a team that have been utterly shit and devoid of quality and spirit no matter who was the boss. Hardly an attractive prospect for any potential managerial candidate are we....shit team + a club that sacks managers left, right and centre?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 15:51:42 GMT
Nope, perhaps they have strapped themselves in for the “project” for good or bad. I believe that that could well be true. Jones is here to stay even if that means another relegation.
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Post by Goonie on Sept 1, 2019 15:51:44 GMT
I'd be more bothered about the club seeking a replacement and sounding people out now as opposed to the QSF-MON-Lambert debacle rather than leaks of discontent in the boardroom
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Post by scfcno1fan on Sept 1, 2019 15:52:53 GMT
There is zero chance Jones will be in charge for the next game. Zero What makes you so sure?
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Post by Gary Hackett on Sept 1, 2019 15:53:32 GMT
There is zero chance Jones will be in charge for the next game. Zero Wager?
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Post by FrankButcher on Sept 1, 2019 15:54:31 GMT
I'd be more bothered about the club seeking a replacement and sounding people out now as opposed to the QSF-MON-Lambert debacle rather than leaks of discontent in the boardroom You'd like to think they have at least learnt from those mistakes in the past at least I hope they have.
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 1, 2019 15:54:56 GMT
The line in the Sentinel last week was pretty interesting. But suppose it goes without saying that someone with 1 win in 17 could go at any time, regardless of how much capital the owners have invested in him? www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-leeds-jones-job-3251015They are desperate to reach the two-week international break after Saturday's trip to Birmingham so they can take a step back, take stock and assess things with a cool head.
They remain keen to keep Jones after investing so much time and resource into the Welshman, but are equally concerned about a league position, even after only five games, that no-one could have reasonably anticipated. On Chapple, presumably it depends how far down the line it is and how central Jones was to it? As was pointed out, though, he did work with Hughton, didn't he? He did, but it seems like he also signed a lot of players that Hughton wasn't really up for playing... Yeah, that's true. Seems like Hughton wasn't really a fan of many of the European players that the club (with Chapple playing his part down the food chain) had moneyballed up for him? Hard to know what their personal relationship was (if they had one) - but when you think about it, that's not a great starting point.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Sept 1, 2019 15:56:33 GMT
There is zero chance Jones will be in charge for the next game. Zero Wager? Ok, fiver says he'll be gone before the n next game
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Post by musik on Sept 1, 2019 15:57:40 GMT
to be fair it’s a tough scenario. They don’t want us to be a hire and fire club But we can’t carry on like this either. They really thought, as did we all, that NJ was ‘the one’. My view is he’ll get more time. I thought that. If we sack Jones, bring in someone else and are still shit, then that'd turn us into a club who had 2 different managers per season for 3 seasons in a row and a team that have been utterly shit and devoid of quality and spirit no matter who was the boss. ... and no matter what players ...
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