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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 1, 2019 7:11:10 GMT
It's interesting to take a look at both managers' stats as they both now have been leading Stoke for 26 league games. Rowett 26 games and 35 points, not good enough and he had to walk. Yes, I was one of those calling for his head because it wasn't good enough! Jones 26 games and 20 points! If this is good enough to keep his job I really don't understand anything as this is an average point per game that with certainty will take us down. He simply has to be replaced now before it's too late.
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Post by DC1863 on Sept 1, 2019 7:27:23 GMT
Results and records aside, yesterday is the first game I've watched wherein our play began to resemble true Rowett-ball. Slow and turgid side to side passing amongst the centre halves with the occasional midfielder dropping deep to achieve nothing in particular.
Worrying signs, for one thing I think the lone striker formation idea needs to be scrapped asap, Gregory needs a strike partner.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Sept 1, 2019 8:16:33 GMT
Rowett - knew the league but very limited and not the bloke to get you out of it. A total bellend too. Talks a good game but eventually got found out.
Jones - Doesn't know the league, out of his depth at a big club. Seems a decent enough bloke. Talks a good game but eventually got found out.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 1, 2019 8:17:42 GMT
Rowett - knew the league but very limited and not the bloke to get you out of it. A total bellend too. Talks a good game but eventually got found out. Jones - Doesn't know the league, out of his depth at a big club. Seems a decent enough bloke. Talks a good game but eventually got found out. Yep that pretty much covers it.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Sept 1, 2019 8:18:16 GMT
I know how to get promotion, let's hound every manager we have out of the door. Sure to work.
To be perfectly honest, for hounding rowett out it's just deserts, wasnt doing a bad job was he, Gary? Just not playing bojan.
Hound jones out, good luck with it if he does go I'll follow something else myself, fuck it. the fans are as poisonous os as the CEO.
What happens if the next man doesn't hit the ground running or play the fans poster boy.
Frankly, if we go down it's just deserts
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Post by Gary Hackett on Sept 1, 2019 8:25:29 GMT
Rowett - knew the league but very limited and not the bloke to get you out of it. A total bellend too. Talks a good game but eventually got found out. Jones - Doesn't know the league, out of his depth at a big club. Seems a decent enough bloke. Talks a good game but eventually got found out. Yep that pretty much covers it. Hughton - knows the league inside out, has managed big clubs. Knows how to get out of this division. Is a decent and respected bloke. Doesn't need to talk a good game because he's been there and done it.
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Post by dexta on Sept 1, 2019 8:26:22 GMT
Rowett kept us up last year
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 1, 2019 8:26:43 GMT
Yep that pretty much covers it. Hughton - knows the league inside out, has managed big clubs. Knows how to get out of this division. Is a decent and respected bloke. Doesn't need to talk a good game because he's been there and done it. Yep. Also pretty limited but a cut above anyone else available and we sure as shit donāt have the vision to look overseas so itāll be him, best case scenario.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 1, 2019 8:27:18 GMT
Rowett kept us up last year He spent Ā£50m on shite that was very much part of the problem.
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Post by Trouserdog on Sept 1, 2019 8:28:07 GMT
I know how to get promotion, let's hound every manager we have out of the door. Sure to work. To be perfectly honest, for hounding rowett out it's just deserts, wasnt doing a bad job was he, Gary? Just not playing bojan. Hound jones out, good luck with it if he does go I'll follow something else myself, fuck it. the fans are as poisonous os as the CEO. What happens if the next man doesn't hit the ground running or play the fans poster boy. Frankly, if we go down it's just deserts Spunked away the biggest Championship budget in history (I can't be arsed to check) to produce turgid football and mid-table. He did a poor job, albeit not as bad as Jones has done.
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Post by Trouserdog on Sept 1, 2019 8:28:47 GMT
Rowett kept us up last year Fucking hell, if I read that one more time...
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Post by PotteringThrough on Sept 1, 2019 8:31:24 GMT
To be perfectly honest, for hounding rowett out it's just deserts, wasnt doing a bad job was he, Gary? Frankly, if we go down it's just deserts Definitely going through a barren patch at the moment ...
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Post by berahinosgoals on Sept 1, 2019 8:31:27 GMT
I know how to get promotion, let's hound every manager we have out of the door. Sure to work. To be perfectly honest, for hounding rowett out it's just deserts, wasnt doing a bad job was he, Gary? Just not playing bojan. Hound jones out, good luck with it if he does go I'll follow something else myself, fuck it. the fans are as poisonous os as the CEO. What happens if the next man doesn't hit the ground running or play the fans poster boy. Frankly, if we go down it's just deserts Spunked away the biggest Championship budget in history (I can't be arsed to check) to produce turgid football and mid-table. He did a poor job, albeit not as bad as Jones has done. He had only just started the rebuild, I didn't think he was doing too badly myself. It was obvious 'then' the issues go much much deeper than the manager. I stand by what I originally said about rowett, he needed to spend that just to keep the club a float such was the mess we were in
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Post by berahinosgoals on Sept 1, 2019 8:34:39 GMT
What were we, something like 8 points of 6th place?
Just deserts.
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 1, 2019 8:58:16 GMT
It's almost mindblowing. I'm still not sure what the hell is going on.
Championship table January 11th to September 1st
1. W.B.A. 26 13 7 6 43 35 46 2. Norw 20 13 6 1 45 23 45
3. Swans 26 13 6 7 42 35 45 4. Brentf 26 13 4 9 42 27 43 5. Brist C 26 12 7 7 38 33 43 6. Shef U 20 12 6 2 33 13 42
7. Leeds 25 13 3 9 37 25 42 8. Preston 26 12 6 6 40 31 42 9. Shef W 26 11 8 7 36 26 41 10. A.Villa 20 11 5 4 33 21 38 11. Derby 25 9 10 6 37 29 37 12. Forest 26 10 6 10 31 31 36 13. Mboro 26 10 6 10 28 31 36 14. R'ding 26 8 10 8 29 33 34 15. B'burn 26 10 3 13 36 35 33 16. B'ham 26 8 8 10 32 38 32 17. Hull C 26 8 7 11 36 44 31 18. Wigan 26 5 10 11 30 35 30
19. M'wall 26 5 10 11 20 30 25 20. Q.P.R. 26 6 4 16 29 46 22 21. Stoke 26 3 12 11 21 36 21
22. Ipswich 20 3 7 10 15 31 16 23. R'ham 20 3 6 11 27 42 15 24. Charlton 6 4 2 0 11 5 14 25. Bolton 20 3 1 16 12 40 10
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Post by wearepremierleague on Sept 1, 2019 9:07:24 GMT
That was the most Rowett like performance Iāve Ever seen. Slow, tapping it round the back. Creating jack shit, no ideas how weāre going to create.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 9:07:51 GMT
Spunked away the biggest Championship budget in history (I can't be arsed to check) to produce turgid football and mid-table. He did a poor job, albeit not as bad as Jones has done. He had only just started the rebuild, I didn't think he was doing too badly myself. It was obvious 'then' the issues go much much deeper than the manager. I stand by what I originally said about rowett, he needed to spend that just to keep the club a float such was the mess we were in He brought in players that didnāt even fit how we wanted to play. He started this whole mess. It wasnāt the 4/5 bad eggs of the Hughes era. The vast majority of our relegation squad were decent players. He didnāt rate Etebo and bought Afobe as a lone striker. Though McClean and Ince were the correct choice for a right and left side of a front 3. Yeah he had a better record than Jones but we were going one way under him and he was losing the plot. And also he was a prick.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Sept 1, 2019 9:10:49 GMT
He had only just started the rebuild, I didn't think he was doing too badly myself. It was obvious 'then' the issues go much much deeper than the manager. I stand by what I originally said about rowett, he needed to spend that just to keep the club a float such was the mess we were in He brought in players that didnāt even fit how we wanted to play. He started this whole mess. It wasnāt the 4/5 bad eggs of the Hughes era. The vast majority of our relegation squad were decent players. He didnāt rate Etebo and bought Afobe as a lone striker. Though McClean and Ince were the correct choice for a right and left side of a front 3. Yeah he had a better record than Jones but we were going one way under him and he was losing the plot. And also he was a prick. 8 points off 6th with more than half a season to go doesn't scream to me 'the wrong way' from bottom of the table. He certainly didn't start this mess, mark hughes started this mess
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Post by Gods on Sept 1, 2019 9:12:50 GMT
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 1, 2019 9:16:01 GMT
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Post by heworksardtho on Sept 1, 2019 9:16:12 GMT
Brook V Price š
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 1, 2019 9:16:44 GMT
I think Rowett and Jones are eerily similar. Both did good jobs in the lower leagues, both use their tongues prettier than a twenty dollar whore (copywright Blazing Sadlles). Both couldn't back up their words. Both sank like a stone at the size of the job, both played horrendous football, both turned on the fans, both are wank.
It really is a case of best looking bloke in the burns unit with this pair of clowns.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 9:17:18 GMT
He brought in players that didnāt even fit how we wanted to play. He started this whole mess. It wasnāt the 4/5 bad eggs of the Hughes era. The vast majority of our relegation squad were decent players. He didnāt rate Etebo and bought Afobe as a lone striker. Though McClean and Ince were the correct choice for a right and left side of a front 3. Yeah he had a better record than Jones but we were going one way under him and he was losing the plot. And also he was a prick. 8 points off 6th with more than half a season to go doesn't scream to me 'the wrong way' from bottom of the table. He certainly didn't start this mess, mark hughes started this mess He didnāt start it but he made a whole lot worse. Especially financially.
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Post by heworksardtho on Sept 1, 2019 9:17:46 GMT
How fooking stupid are you Gods ššš
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Post by roylandstoke on Sept 1, 2019 9:20:05 GMT
We all know the answer to this one. Rowett took every opportunity to criticise and belittle the supporters.
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Post by bathstoke on Sept 1, 2019 9:20:05 GMT
Why isnāt Lambert in this thread...
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Post by berahinosgoals on Sept 1, 2019 9:22:41 GMT
8 points off 6th with more than half a season to go doesn't scream to me 'the wrong way' from bottom of the table. He certainly didn't start this mess, mark hughes started this mess He didnāt start it but he made a whole lot worse. Especially financially. 8 points off 6th though with half a season to go. 23 games to catch up 8 points
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Post by roylandstoke on Sept 1, 2019 9:22:53 GMT
Why isnāt Lambert in this thread... Lambert's record was better than Jones' and given their respective resources and oppositions better than Rowett's.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Sept 1, 2019 9:23:22 GMT
Why isnāt Lambert in this thread... š He is
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 9:25:28 GMT
He didnāt start it but he made a whole lot worse. Especially financially. 8 points off 6th though with half a season to go. 23 games to catch up 8 pointsĀ It was absolute dire. We looked completely awful. He has a good core squad in our relegation squad and Ā£50m and none of what he bought was what we needed. It was like sending out a kid to by ingredients for dinner and then just coming back with a load of sweets.
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