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Post by partickpotter on Sept 27, 2019 7:36:39 GMT
Do you know when that Andrew Neil interview was?
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Sept 27, 2019 7:51:37 GMT
Do you know when that Andrew Neil interview was? No I don't
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Post by starkiller on Sept 27, 2019 7:52:18 GMT
I don’t recall the howls of outrage from the delicate souls upset by the word humbug when David Lammy was accusing the Tories as being worse than Nazis. There was no real outrage on this hysterical stage when Rees Mogg was confronted on his doorstep with his children by the ugly mob. And let's not forget that only recently, throwing milkshakes over politicians was celebrated. Lefties are used to playing victim so are better at the moral outrage.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Sept 27, 2019 7:54:29 GMT
Inflammatory language?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 27, 2019 8:06:07 GMT
If the right wing tossers use some sort of chicanery to by-pass the Benn Bill using the Privy Council, then I'll be calling for riots myself as the rule of law will be dead.
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Post by henry on Sept 27, 2019 8:16:10 GMT
Disgusting. Johnson needs to start calling these hate filled fuckers out live on TV in Commons.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Sept 27, 2019 8:17:31 GMT
If the right wing tossers use some sort of chicanery to by-pass the Benn Bill using the Privy Council, then I'll be calling for riots myself as the rule of law will be dead. It is bad when the establishment undermines the will of the people...it causes anger
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Post by vokeswagen on Sept 27, 2019 8:19:24 GMT
There was no real outrage on this hysterical stage when Rees Mogg was confronted on his doorstep with his children by the ugly mob. And let's not forget that only recently, throwing milkshakes over politicians was celebrated. Lefties are used to playing victim so are better at the moral outrage. You're a hypocrite mate. You moan about MPs creating division but then quite happily issue statements like "lefties are used to playing victim". Divisive, nonsensical and utterly lacking in self awareness.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 27, 2019 8:22:40 GMT
If the right wing tossers use some sort of chicanery to by-pass the Benn Bill using the Privy Council, then I'll be calling for riots myself as the rule of law will be dead. It is bad when the establishment undermines the will of the people...it causes anger Why should a minority Government led by an old Etonian entitled bully steamroller their narrow one eyed view of Brexit through by the back door? Is that taking back control?
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Post by thevoid on Sept 27, 2019 8:23:42 GMT
And let's not forget that only recently, throwing milkshakes over politicians was celebrated. Lefties are used to playing victim so are better at the moral outrage. You're a hypocrite mate. You moan about MPs creating division but then quite happily issue statements like "lefties are used to playing victim". Divisive, nonsensical and utterly lacking in self awareness.How come you don't post as manmarking anymore, mate?
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Sept 27, 2019 8:36:27 GMT
It is bad when the establishment undermines the will of the people...it causes anger Why should a minority Government led by an old Etonian entitled bully steamroller their narrow one eyed view of Brexit through by the back door? Is that taking back control? I suppose because the UK political system allows it.... as you put it " an unelected PM" .... except we never have elected PMs. It may be that the British public are asking" Why are a few individuals, who are not representing the people, preventing and opposing BREXIT?". Perhaps they support what Boris says that he is trying to do. Perhaps he is closer to them in his thinking than those that oppose him?
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Post by starkiller on Sept 27, 2019 8:44:13 GMT
And let's not forget that only recently, throwing milkshakes over politicians was celebrated. Lefties are used to playing victim so are better at the moral outrage. You're a hypocrite mate. You moan about MPs creating division but then quite happily issue statements like "lefties are used to playing victim". Divisive, nonsensical and utterly lacking in self awareness.I'm not moaning about MPs and their supporters creating division. I have been referring to the hypocrisy of those complaining about divisive rhetoric and actions when they themselves are equally guilty of what they condemn. Therefore I will point out where they are equally divisive.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 27, 2019 8:57:18 GMT
Why should a minority Government led by an old Etonian entitled bully steamroller their narrow one eyed view of Brexit through by the back door? Is that taking back control? I suppose because the UK political system allows it.... as you put it " an unelected PM" .... except we never have elected PMs. It may be that the British public are asking" Why are a few individuals, who are not representing the people, preventing and opposing BREXIT?". Perhaps they support what Boris says that he is trying to do. Perhaps he is closer to them in his thinking than those that oppose him? With respect Jon, that is twaddle. The latest rhetoric out of hard line Brexiteers is that it is a handful of people denying 99% of the population what they want which is pure fabrication. The latest ‘wheeze’ these anti-democratic bastards have is to use European law to by-pass the Benn bill and get their one eyed narrow right wing view of Brexit through. Hypocritical, entitled, Bullindgon bully boys who are used to taking whatever of they want and bugger the consequences. This country will never be heale with these bastards in charge. They thrive on division, it clears the path for their right wing, working class abusing, economic dogma.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Sept 27, 2019 9:03:05 GMT
I suppose because the UK political system allows it.... as you put it " an unelected PM" .... except we never have elected PMs. It may be that the British public are asking" Why are a few individuals, who are not representing the people, preventing and opposing BREXIT?". Perhaps they support what Boris says that he is trying to do. Perhaps he is closer to them in his thinking than those that oppose him? With respect Jon, that is twaddle. The latest rhetoric out of hard line Brexiteers is that it is a handful of people denying 99% of the population what they want which is pure fabrication. The latest ‘wheeze’ these anti-democratic bastards have is to use European law to by-pass the Benn bill and get their one eyed narrow right wing view of Brexit through. Hypocritical, entitled, Bullindgon bully boys who are used to taking whatever of they want and bugger the consequences. This country will never be heale with these bastards in charge. They thrive on division, it clears the path for their right wing, working class abusing, economic dogma. I agree that the country may never be healed. To be democratic also means accepting that you might not get your own way , even if you are sure that you are correct. Myself I think the real injustice is the denial of the referendum result , which for me means being OUT of the EU as promised ( no CU, SM, EU CT)....it could be argued that Boris is trying to deliver that and those that oppose him are opposing the will of the people. " Bollocks to Brexit" hardly suggests respect for the result.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 27, 2019 9:08:06 GMT
With respect Jon, that is twaddle. The latest rhetoric out of hard line Brexiteers is that it is a handful of people denying 99% of the population what they want which is pure fabrication. The latest ‘wheeze’ these anti-democratic bastards have is to use European law to by-pass the Benn bill and get their one eyed narrow right wing view of Brexit through. Hypocritical, entitled, Bullindgon bully boys who are used to taking whatever of they want and bugger the consequences. This country will never be heale with these bastards in charge. They thrive on division, it clears the path for their right wing, working class abusing, economic dogma. I agree that the country may never be healed. To be democratic also means accepting that you might not get your own way , even if you are sure that you are correct. Myself I think the real injustice is the denial of the referendum result , which for me means being OUT of the EU as promised ( no CU, SM, EU CT)....it could be argued that Boris is trying to deliver that and those that oppose him are opposing the will of the people. " Bollocks to Brexit" hardly suggests respect for the result. I'm all for leave, just not in the one eyed, entitled way a right wing 'mandateless' old Etonian forces on me through the back door.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Sept 27, 2019 9:11:45 GMT
I agree that the country may never be healed. To be democratic also means accepting that you might not get your own way , even if you are sure that you are correct. Myself I think the real injustice is the denial of the referendum result , which for me means being OUT of the EU as promised ( no CU, SM, EU CT)....it could be argued that Boris is trying to deliver that and those that oppose him are opposing the will of the people. " Bollocks to Brexit" hardly suggests respect for the result. I'm all for leave, just not in the one eyed, entitled way a right wing 'mandateless' old Etonian forces on me through the back door. For me its never been about left or right... which is why Galloway cab share a platform with Farage and Fox can join the BREXIT party. Two of the most reasonable Brexiteers in my opinion have been Labour, Gisela Stuart and Kate Hoey
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Sept 27, 2019 9:23:07 GMT
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Post by thevoid on Sept 27, 2019 9:37:49 GMT
Anyone thinking Galloway is far-right needs a serious word with themselves in fairness.
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Post by wagsastokie on Sept 27, 2019 9:44:57 GMT
And let's not forget that only recently, throwing milkshakes over politicians was celebrated. Lefties are used to playing victim so are better at the moral outrage. You're a hypocrite mate. You moan about MPs creating division but then quite happily issue statements like "lefties are used to playing victim". Divisive, nonsensical and utterly lacking in self awareness.Before you use the term hypocrite you’re point would be improved if you condemned John McDonnells words Somehow I don’t think you will
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 27, 2019 9:52:58 GMT
We are Tommy Yaxley-Lennon We are Katy Hopkins
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Post by salopstick on Sept 27, 2019 10:16:32 GMT
Not very often I agree with George Galloway. Parliments failure to implement Brexit is giving ammunition to extreme groups and people to hijack it. In any other situation we would look at the root cause and try and change it. But parliment refuse to accept their responsibility I struggle with the fact that remainers are prepared to ignore democracy because they don’t line the result but are up in arms at the responses good people and not so good people do
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Sept 27, 2019 10:27:20 GMT
We are Tommy Yaxley-Lennon We are Katy Hopkins As I say many people support BREXIT across the political spectrum....but you don't have to agree with EVERYTHING that someone else believes on EVERY issue.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 27, 2019 10:53:36 GMT
We are Tommy Yaxley-Lennon We are Katy Hopkins As I say many people support BREXIT across the political spectrum....but you don't have to agree with EVERYTHING that someone else believes on EVERY issue. But it is this Prime Ministers aggressive approach and strategy that is earning plaudits from far right nutters like Yaxley and Hopkins
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Post by salopstick on Sept 27, 2019 10:55:56 GMT
As I say many people support BREXIT across the political spectrum....but you don't have to agree with EVERYTHING that someone else believes on EVERY issue. But it is this Prime Ministers aggressive approach and strategy that is earning plaudits from far right nutters like Yaxley and Hopkins And also millions of normal people who want their vote respected.
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Post by eebygum on Sept 27, 2019 10:58:24 GMT
But it is this Prime Ministers aggressive approach and strategy that is earning plaudits from far right nutters like Yaxley and Hopkins And also millions of normal people who want their vote respected. Whoa dooant gi' twoa shits abaht t' rule o' law or followin well established processes
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Post by partickpotter on Sept 27, 2019 11:05:18 GMT
Anyone thinking Galloway is far-right needs a serious word with themselves in fairness. Far Out is what Galloway is.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 27, 2019 11:13:09 GMT
But it is this Prime Ministers aggressive approach and strategy that is earning plaudits from far right nutters like Yaxley and Hopkins And also millions of normal people who want their vote respected. Their vote to leave on a no deal to be implemented by a Singapore by the Sea supporting ERG cabinet? Yeah I really remember voting for that.
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Post by vokeswagen on Sept 27, 2019 11:18:11 GMT
You're a hypocrite mate. You moan about MPs creating division but then quite happily issue statements like "lefties are used to playing victim". Divisive, nonsensical and utterly lacking in self awareness.Before you use the term hypocrite you’re point would be improved if you condemned John McDonnells words Somehow I don’t think you will Fuck a duck pal, I don't see you balancing out every single observation you post on here I haven't expressed an opinion either way on this yet anyway, just observed an inconsistency. So my point is untainted to be fair. But for what it's worth yes I condemn McDonnell's words. I think the standard of political discourse these days is piss poor. It's all too frequently tribal and divisive. And that's disappointing and counterproductive.
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Post by foster on Sept 27, 2019 11:19:59 GMT
Anyone thinking Galloway is far-right needs a serious word with themselves in fairness. Far Out is what Galloway is. One thing I love about Galloway is his self respect and dignity. I mean, he's clearly not the kind of person who will just say and do anything to garner the populist vote. Get in there Georgey boy!!!
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Post by foster on Sept 27, 2019 11:24:08 GMT
And also millions of normal people who want their vote respected. Their vote to leave on a no deal to be implemented by a Singapore by the Sea supporting ERG cabinet? Yeah I really remember voting for that. Sing-a-pore, by the sea Welcome Aus-ter-i-ty While Boris stands on golden saaaands And watches French ships, that go sailing 3/10
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