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Post by thevoid on Sept 26, 2019 17:36:05 GMT
The man arrested earlier had cannabis on him. He probably has mental issues and doesn't represent all Brexit/Conservative supporters.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 26, 2019 17:39:40 GMT
There are enough nutters out there who believe this 'surrender', 'enemies of the people', 'traitor' talk. Believe me, Johnson and Cummings know exactly what they are doing aided and abetted by a right wing press and it will end up with another MP being hurt, I'm convinced of it. This faux outrage is hysterical. And folk like Philips claiming some kind of moral high ground is laughable. A person who has spoken of decapitating Tories. Did you see that decapitated effigy of Johnson? Maybe she's responsible for that? Or maybe there are just random nutters about. Johnson's language is not anything out of the ordinary in the history of Parliament. You're politically astute enough to know what's at work here. The People against Parliament is being set up and damn the consequences. It's straight out of the Trump playbook and it's populist and dangerous. You know it, fyd knows it, tricky knows it and voidy knows it but choose to ignore it. Let's hope no one gets hurt eh?
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Post by thevoid on Sept 26, 2019 17:51:07 GMT
This faux outrage is hysterical. And folk like Philips claiming some kind of moral high ground is laughable. A person who has spoken of decapitating Tories. Did you see that decapitated effigy of Johnson? Maybe she's responsible for that? Or maybe there are just random nutters about. Johnson's language is not anything out of the ordinary in the history of Parliament. You're politically astute enough to know what's at work here. The People against Parliament is being set up and damn the consequences. It's straight out of the Trump playbook and it's populist and dangerous. You know it, fyd knows it, tricky knows it and voidy knows it but choose to ignore it. Let's hope no one gets hurt eh? I'm not ignoring anything mate, just highlighting some double standards that's all. In my opinion, the standard of both our governing party and opposition are at an all-time low.
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Post by followyoudown on Sept 26, 2019 18:07:34 GMT
This faux outrage is hysterical. And folk like Philips claiming some kind of moral high ground is laughable. A person who has spoken of decapitating Tories. Did you see that decapitated effigy of Johnson? Maybe she's responsible for that? Or maybe there are just random nutters about. Johnson's language is not anything out of the ordinary in the history of Parliament. You're politically astute enough to know what's at work here. The People against Parliament is being set up and damn the consequences. It's straight out of the Trump playbook and it's populist and dangerous. You know it, fyd knows it, tricky knows it and voidy knows it but choose to ignore it. Let's hope no one gets hurt eh? Yet you were lapping up the labour v msm narrative that jezza was pumping out. Your problem is that its cutting through mainly because therw is more than an element of truth too it.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Sept 26, 2019 18:18:05 GMT
This faux outrage is hysterical. And folk like Philips claiming some kind of moral high ground is laughable. A person who has spoken of decapitating Tories. Did you see that decapitated effigy of Johnson? Maybe she's responsible for that? Or maybe there are just random nutters about. Johnson's language is not anything out of the ordinary in the history of Parliament. You're politically astute enough to know what's at work here. The People against Parliament is being set up and damn the consequences. It's straight out of the Trump playbook and it's populist and dangerous. You know it, fyd knows it, tricky knows it and voidy knows it but choose to ignore it. Let's hope no one gets hurt eh? I'm ignoring nothing, Sheiky, I just think it's incredible double standards. I would genuinely back Corbyn up if he was being lambasted and fought back. I said on another thread that he should be saying what Cox said yesterday. It HAS been parliament against the people for 3 years, and genuine cross party cooperation has been lacking. They all want bollocking. You can't shout fascist, liar and dictator at people and complain about incendiary language in return. I know if someone called me a Nazi or fascist in person I would chin them. Where I do agree is the language on both sides needs toning down, because there is potential for serious trouble. This shit needs putting to bed soon.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Sept 26, 2019 18:28:02 GMT
Good and bad on both sides, as with anything.
The state of that Labour fella from Huddersfield last night was a complete and utter disgrace.
Jess Phillip's antagonising people in the corridor is out of order regardless of what she thinks of Joris.
Johnson is a disgrace aswell as a pathological liar with a seriously shady past but certainly knows how to whip up his supporter base (sound familiar from across the pond)
There is no way we are leaving on the 31st. Commit to the extension and get the GE completed and see where we are.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Sept 26, 2019 18:29:48 GMT
You're politically astute enough to know what's at work here. The People against Parliament is being set up and damn the consequences. It's straight out of the Trump playbook and it's populist and dangerous. You know it, fyd knows it, tricky knows it and voidy knows it but choose to ignore it. Let's hope no one gets hurt eh? I'm ignoring nothing, Sheiky, I just think it's incredible double standards. I would genuinely back Corbyn up if he was being lambasted and fought back. I said on another thread that he should be saying what Cox said yesterday. It HAS been parliament against the people for 3 years, and genuine cross party cooperation has been lacking. They all want bollocking. You can't shout fascist, liar and dictator at people and complain about incendiary language in return. I know if someone called me a Nazi or fascist in person I would chin them. Where I do agree is the language on both sides needs toning down, because there is potential for serious trouble. This shit needs putting to bed soon. Can't quite agree on the People vs. Parliament part but the rest is spot on!
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Post by Dutchpeter on Sept 26, 2019 19:06:07 GMT
How embarrassing for her that she really thinks Boris Johnson is responsible for this. This level of thinking cannot be debated. There are enough nutters out there who believe this 'surrender', 'enemies of the people', 'traitor' talk. Believe me, Johnson and Cummings know exactly what they are doing aided and abetted by a right wing press and it will end up with another MP being hurt, I'm convinced of it. How many MP’s were murdered/injured by the Marxist/socialist Official IRA, Provisional IRA, and INLA?
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Post by zerps on Sept 26, 2019 19:22:36 GMT
The rest of the world must think “what a bunch of fannys”
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Post by Boothen on Sept 26, 2019 19:36:23 GMT
Ah yes, Jess Phillips would never stoop so low as to use such degrading language and insults.
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Post by followyoudown on Sept 26, 2019 19:48:41 GMT
Ah yes, Jess Phillips would never stoop so low as to use such degrading language and insults. For weeks they have said Boris is a fascist, a dictator, running a coup, a liar blah de blah and now they start crying he is the PM he should say something. The truth is May's dithering shielded them she took all the abuse and now we have a PM who aims to deliver brexit and they dont have an excuse for their constituients who voted leave as to why they arent doing anything to make leave happen.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 26, 2019 19:53:35 GMT
There are enough nutters out there who believe this 'surrender', 'enemies of the people', 'traitor' talk. Believe me, Johnson and Cummings know exactly what they are doing aided and abetted by a right wing press and it will end up with another MP being hurt, I'm convinced of it. How many MP’s were murdered/injured by the Marxist/socialist Official IRA, Provisional IRA, and INLA? That's a frigging leap! I never said Johnson and Cummings were terrorists. 😁 Just shameless populists who don't care what consequences their actions and words have. Ironically, including a restoration of the troubles!
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Post by pearo on Sept 26, 2019 20:11:41 GMT
How many MP’s were murdered/injured by the Marxist/socialist Official IRA, Provisional IRA, and INLA? That's a frigging leap! I never said Johnson and Cummings were terrorists. 😁 Just shameless populists who don't care what consequences their actions and words have. Ironically, including a restoration of the troubles! And should there be a restoration of the troubles how long will it take Corbyn to jump back into bed with Adams and his cronies?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2019 20:32:42 GMT
The world has gone fucking mad
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 26, 2019 20:36:46 GMT
That's a frigging leap! I never said Johnson and Cummings were terrorists. 😁 Just shameless populists who don't care what consequences their actions and words have. Ironically, including a restoration of the troubles! And should there be a restoration of the troubles how long will it take Corbyn to jump back into bed with Adams and his cronies? So a shameless populist willing to tear up peace on the island of Ireland and its Corbyn's fault! Priceless!!
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Post by pearo on Sept 26, 2019 20:54:25 GMT
And should there be a restoration of the troubles how long will it take Corbyn to jump back into bed with Adams and his cronies? So a shameless populist willing to tear up peace on the island of Ireland and its Corbyn's fault! Priceless!! So the first PM to have courage to drive through his agenda since Mrs.T ( God rest her soul ) seems shameless to some, but a man who dithers on a fence for 3 years has nothing to answer for. Is there much room in the bubble you live in ?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 26, 2019 21:12:05 GMT
So a shameless populist willing to tear up peace on the island of Ireland and its Corbyn's fault! Priceless!! So the first PM to have courage to drive through his agenda since Mrs.T ( God rest her soul ) seems shameless to some, but a man who dithers on a fence for 3 years has nothing to answer for. Is there much room in the bubble you live in ? I stopped reading after you mentioned Mrs T. Explains a lot about your frankly frightening posts.
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Post by bathstoke on Sept 26, 2019 21:34:56 GMT
How many MP’s were murdered/injured by the Marxist/socialist Official IRA, Provisional IRA, and INLA? That's a frigging leap! I never said Johnson and Cummings were terrorists. 😁 Just shameless populists who don't care what consequences their actions and words have. Ironically, including a restoration of the troubles! Don’t forget the dissolution of Great Britain in its entirety. Even Cornwall will jump on the bandwagon & they voted Brexit. Voted to make Britain Great again & £@#&ed the whole thing up. Stupid CnutsXx
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Post by vokeswagen on Sept 26, 2019 21:52:13 GMT
Ah yes, Jess Phillips would never stoop so low as to use such degrading language and insults. The truth is May's dithering shielded them she took all the abuse and now we have a PM who aims to deliver brexit and they dont have an excuse for their constituients who voted leave as to why they arent doing anything to make leave happen. Would that be the same Theresa May you blindly defended for over 2 years, until your masters at Tory HQ instructed you to think otherwise?
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Post by pearo on Sept 26, 2019 22:22:33 GMT
So the first PM to have courage to drive through his agenda since Mrs.T ( God rest her soul ) seems shameless to some, but a man who dithers on a fence for 3 years has nothing to answer for. Is there much room in the bubble you live in ? I stopped reading after you mentioned Mrs T. Explains a lot about your frankly frightening posts. So you are able to make a judgement despite reading all the information, much like Corbyn, Abbott et al.
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Post by starkiller on Sept 26, 2019 22:33:37 GMT
This faux outrage is hysterical. And folk like Philips claiming some kind of moral high ground is laughable. A person who has spoken of decapitating Tories. Did you see that decapitated effigy of Johnson? Maybe she's responsible for that? Or maybe there are just random nutters about. Johnson's language is not anything out of the ordinary in the history of Parliament. You're politically astute enough to know what's at work here. The People against Parliament is being set up and damn the consequences. It's straight out of the Trump playbook and it's populist and dangerous. You know it, fyd knows it, tricky knows it and voidy knows it but choose to ignore it. Let's hope no one gets hurt eh? Astute enough to see faux outrage for political reasons, and clambering for the moral high ground for the same reasons. People v Parliament was an idea in the media when May was PM. And when taken metaphorically, it is true. A Parliament that seeks to obstruct the largest vote ever is one which deserves this label. And now they want to play the victim card to distract from this - for political reasons. This has been 'set up'. There is no reason to tone down the tool of metaphorical language because snowflakes cannot differentiate. It has been a form of expression in these isles for many a century. And used by all sides in political debate.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Sept 27, 2019 4:19:42 GMT
You're politically astute enough to know what's at work here. The People against Parliament is being set up and damn the consequences. It's straight out of the Trump playbook and it's populist and dangerous. You know it, fyd knows it, tricky knows it and voidy knows it but choose to ignore it. Let's hope no one gets hurt eh? Astute enough to see faux outrage for political reasons, and clambering for the moral high ground for the same reasons. People v Parliament was an idea in the media when May was PM. And when taken metaphorically, it is true. A Parliament that seeks to obstruct the largest vote ever is one which deserves this label. And now they want to play the victim card to distract from this - for political reasons. This has been 'set up'. There is no reason to tone down the tool of metaphorical language because snowflakes cannot differentiate. It has been a form of expression in these isles for many a century. And used by all sides in political debate. It's not about the 'snowflakes' that cannot differentiate, it's about extremist 'warriors' like Thomas Mair (who before anyone says he was a 'one off' his actions prompted a twitter thread with 25,000 celebratory tweets before it was shut down). However much Cummings and Johnson wish to frame the narrative as People vs Parliament it's no more about the People for the Government than it is for the opposition - its an entrenched and bitter Westminster village power game with a pathalogical narcissist centre stage and colossal egos on both sides being played out in public with the real and meaningful consequences of their spat for the people they represent long since having become a distant second thought. However its somewhat ironic that amongst that it's the party that bills itself as the party of 'law and order' and tough on knife crime that chooses to use such inflammatory language and the risks that come with it.
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Post by starkiller on Sept 27, 2019 4:40:07 GMT
Astute enough to see faux outrage for political reasons, and clambering for the moral high ground for the same reasons. People v Parliament was an idea in the media when May was PM. And when taken metaphorically, it is true. A Parliament that seeks to obstruct the largest vote ever is one which deserves this label. And now they want to play the victim card to distract from this - for political reasons. This has been 'set up'. There is no reason to tone down the tool of metaphorical language because snowflakes cannot differentiate. It has been a form of expression in these isles for many a century. And used by all sides in political debate. It's not about the 'snowflakes' that cannot differentiate, it's about extremist 'warriors' like Thomas Mair (who before anyone says he was a 'one off' his actions prompted a twitter thread with 25,000 celebratory tweets before it was shut down). However much Cummings and Johnson wish to frame the narrative as People vs Parliament it's no more about the People for the Government than it is for the opposition - its an entrenched and bitter Westminster village power game with a pathalogical narcissist centre stage and colossal egos on both sides being played out in public with the real and meaningful consequences of their spat for the people they represent long since having become a distant second thought. However its somewhat ironic that amongst that it's the party that bills itself as the party of 'law and order' and tough on knife crime that chooses to use such inflammatory language and the risks that come with it. So I guess marches, that characters such a Corbyn and Sourbry attend, with effigies of May and Johnson, are not 'hate'? Sourbry the expert at crying foul when it suits politically. People v Government is okay, but people v Parliament isn't?? Cummings and Johnson haven't framed this narrative. It was already in the public perception. The hypocrisy for political reasons is the issue. And now playing the victim for political gain and for exactly the same reasons of division.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Sept 27, 2019 5:03:18 GMT
It's not about the 'snowflakes' that cannot differentiate, it's about extremist 'warriors' like Thomas Mair (who before anyone says he was a 'one off' his actions prompted a twitter thread with 25,000 celebratory tweets before it was shut down). However much Cummings and Johnson wish to frame the narrative as People vs Parliament it's no more about the People for the Government than it is for the opposition - its an entrenched and bitter Westminster village power game with a pathalogical narcissist centre stage and colossal egos on both sides being played out in public with the real and meaningful consequences of their spat for the people they represent long since having become a distant second thought. However its somewhat ironic that amongst that it's the party that bills itself as the party of 'law and order' and tough on knife crime that chooses to use such inflammatory language and the risks that come with it. So I guess marches, that characters such a Corbyn and Sourbry attend, with effigies of May and Johnson, are not 'hate'? Sourbry the expert at crying foul when it suits politically. People v Government is okay, but people v Parliament isn't?? Cummings and Johnson haven't framed this narrative. It was already in the public perception. The hypocrisy for political reasons is the issue. And now playing the victim for political gain and for exactly the same reasons of division. Do you mean like the one time advocate of The Single Market who switched sides when it became apparent that he wouldn't realise his ambition to become PM on a Remain ticket? I do however agree with you on the hypocrisy issue - it runs right through the current political system, top to bottom, left to right and with seeningly very few exceptions.
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Post by Mendicant on Sept 27, 2019 5:46:58 GMT
Panama Papers. Panama Pampers. Myanmar Pampers. May un mar Pampers. May un mar lady. Arfur toe crate. Goo on Stoke.
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Post by partickpotter on Sept 27, 2019 6:47:25 GMT
It's not about the 'snowflakes' that cannot differentiate, it's about extremist 'warriors' like Thomas Mair (who before anyone says he was a 'one off' his actions prompted a twitter thread with 25,000 celebratory tweets before it was shut down). However much Cummings and Johnson wish to frame the narrative as People vs Parliament it's no more about the People for the Government than it is for the opposition - its an entrenched and bitter Westminster village power game with a pathalogical narcissist centre stage and colossal egos on both sides being played out in public with the real and meaningful consequences of their spat for the people they represent long since having become a distant second thought. However its somewhat ironic that amongst that it's the party that bills itself as the party of 'law and order' and tough on knife crime that chooses to use such inflammatory language and the risks that come with it. So I guess marches, that characters such a Corbyn and Sourbry attend, with effigies of May and Johnson, are not 'hate'? Sourbry the expert at crying foul when it suits politically. People v Government is okay, but people v Parliament isn't?? Cummings and Johnson haven't framed this narrative. It was already in the public perception. The hypocrisy for political reasons is the issue. And now playing the victim for political gain and for exactly the same reasons of division. I don’t recall the howls of outrage from the delicate souls upset by the word humbug when David Lammy was accusing the Tories as being worse than Nazis.
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Post by henry on Sept 27, 2019 7:10:18 GMT
Surrender- nope, can’t use that.
Car crash, Crashing out, Off a cliff - yep, that’s ok
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Post by starkiller on Sept 27, 2019 7:16:27 GMT
The acting from those women on the opposition benches, trying to play the victim, was pitiful.
And then to invoke the name of a dead politician and 'frame' the argument so that people are somehow responsible for her death if they use metaphorical language and voted leave.
This sickening tactic was tried before the referendum and failed.
So, it's clear, the new tactic is to play the victim and try to remove words from the language that hit too close to the truth. Major has given a long list of banned words. Seems very 1984 to me.
As I've said before, it's time for EU supporters to get out of campaign mode and realise the vote was 3.5 years ago. It needs to be implemented.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Sept 27, 2019 7:24:42 GMT
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Post by felonious on Sept 27, 2019 7:35:28 GMT
So I guess marches, that characters such a Corbyn and Sourbry attend, with effigies of May and Johnson, are not 'hate'? Sourbry the expert at crying foul when it suits politically. People v Government is okay, but people v Parliament isn't?? Cummings and Johnson haven't framed this narrative. It was already in the public perception. The hypocrisy for political reasons is the issue. And now playing the victim for political gain and for exactly the same reasons of division. I don’t recall the howls of outrage from the delicate souls upset by the word humbug when David Lammy was accusing the Tories as being worse than Nazis. There was no real outrage on this hysterical stage when Rees Mogg was confronted on his doorstep with his children by the ugly mob.
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