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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 18, 2019 8:50:28 GMT
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Post by lordb on Aug 18, 2019 8:56:33 GMT
All spot on.
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Post by serpico on Aug 18, 2019 9:12:25 GMT
The far right have never been weaker in this country, far from being on the march.
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Post by henry on Aug 18, 2019 9:12:41 GMT
Is there any evidence it was a "far right" group that did this ?
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Post by followyoudown on Aug 18, 2019 9:22:30 GMT
Is there any evidence it was a "far right" group that did this ? Owen "believes" it was political motivated, there is no excuse for anyone being attacked on the way home from a pub or anywhere just like there is no excuse for throwing things over people who say things you don't like. As for whether it was a "far right" group seems odd nothing was said seems to me its more likely this group either took offence at something that happened in the pub or more likely it was a homophobic attack.
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Post by serpico on Aug 18, 2019 9:55:40 GMT
Is there any evidence it was a "far right" group that did this ? Owen "believes" it was political motivated, there is no excuse for anyone being attacked on the way home from a pub or anywhere just like there is no excuse for throwing things over people who say things you don't like. As for whether it was a "far right" group seems odd nothing was said seems to me its more likely this group either took offence at something that happened in the pub or more likely it was a homophobic attack. Might not be a far right group per-se rather than just some pissed up idiots who disagree with jones politically. 3am outside a pub literally anything can spark trouble, maybe Owen himself had had a few too many and was acting like a dick ? When booze is involved you just never know. The claim that the far right is on the march isn’t true though, they’re not winning elections and they only attract small gatherings when they hold rallies, truth is this country has never been more tolerant but Corbyn and co use this idea of the far right rising to scare people.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 18, 2019 10:29:43 GMT
Owen "believes" it was political motivated, there is no excuse for anyone being attacked on the way home from a pub or anywhere just like there is no excuse for throwing things over people who say things you don't like. As for whether it was a "far right" group seems odd nothing was said seems to me its more likely this group either took offence at something that happened in the pub or more likely it was a homophobic attack. Might not be a far right group per-se rather than just some pissed up idiots who disagree with jones politically. 3am outside a pub literally anything can spark trouble, maybe Owen himself had had a few too many and was acting like a dick ? When booze is involved you just never know. The claim that the far right is on the march isn’t true though, they’re not winning elections and they only attract small gatherings when they hold rallies, truth is this country has never been more tolerant but Corbyn and co use this idea of the far right rising to scare people. Attacks linked to the far right are on the increase on every continent, they've even been included in the terror threat level index since July. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49088293
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Post by zerps on Aug 18, 2019 10:41:52 GMT
Everything has to be labelled or indexed to suit certain agendas. I’d punch corbyn because he’s a complete twat. Index that.
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Post by mattyd on Aug 18, 2019 10:44:02 GMT
Thing is these days it's so hard to distinguish between Far Right and Far Left, in my opinion they have sort of wrapped around a sphere and met 180Deg opposite the center.
Obviously we associate Russia and China as communist regimes, which are traditionally left leaning, but their harsh extreme regimes are bordering on fascism.
Take Grandpa Racist, politically extreme Marxist/looney left, but is as anti sematic as a certain German Fuhrer, who was pretty right wing tbh.
Extremists from both sides of the political spectrum are extremely dangerous, and should be stopped at all costs.
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Post by thevoid on Aug 18, 2019 10:45:57 GMT
Here's me thinking it was the far left who were planning to seize power in the country?
Perhaps OJ spilled his mint julep over someone who'd had a bit too much marching powder?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 10:56:19 GMT
He was well enough to be spouting 'gender stereotyping' bollocks on Sunday Morning Live earlier 👍
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Post by thevoid on Aug 18, 2019 11:12:08 GMT
He was well enough to be spouting 'gender stereotyping' bollocks on Sunday Morning Live earlier 👍 It can't have been that bad then. It was probably just a joke that got out of hand anyway.
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Post by serpico on Aug 18, 2019 11:30:59 GMT
Might not be a far right group per-se rather than just some pissed up idiots who disagree with jones politically. 3am outside a pub literally anything can spark trouble, maybe Owen himself had had a few too many and was acting like a dick ? When booze is involved you just never know. The claim that the far right is on the march isn’t true though, they’re not winning elections and they only attract small gatherings when they hold rallies, truth is this country has never been more tolerant but Corbyn and co use this idea of the far right rising to scare people. Attacks linked to the far right are on the increase on every continent, they've even been included in the terror threat level index since July. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49088293No doubt there’s a danger but Terrorism is often the tactic of the politically weak, this just means that they and their ideas are not very popular other wise there’d be no need for violence.
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Post by serpico on Aug 18, 2019 11:46:34 GMT
Thing is these days it's so hard to distinguish between Far Right and Far Left, in my opinion they have sort of wrapped around a sphere and met 180Deg opposite the center. . There is some cross over in beliefs, ie both far left and far right wish to see mass nationalisation of industry, they have quite a lot in common but where they do split is on things like immigration and the ethnostate, the far left these days are pro immigration.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Aug 18, 2019 11:54:49 GMT
The far right have never been weaker in this country, far from being on the march. You have to remember that nowadays 'far right' means anyone who disagrees with the far left. It used to be the case that we had the far left, the left, the centre left, the centre, the centre right, the right & the far right. In 2019 we've got the far left & 'literally Hitler', that's it.
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Post by werrington on Aug 18, 2019 13:11:34 GMT
As somebody who leans to the left politically ( I’m labour not this new labour bollocks) I’m concerned about the rise of the far right violence and evil tendencies but I’m equally as concerned about the rise of the new liberal left and all the PC bollocks they peddle
Two different scenarios I know but both equally as dangerous
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Post by zerps on Aug 18, 2019 13:12:15 GMT
The far right have never been weaker in this country, far from being on the march. You have to remember that nowadays 'far right' means anyone who disagrees with the far left. It used to be the case that we had the far left, the left, the centre left, the centre, the centre right, the right & the far right. In 2019 we've got the far left & 'literally Hitler', that's it. The far left and anyone with a sense of humour.
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Post by zerps on Aug 18, 2019 13:12:51 GMT
As somebody who means to the left politically I’m concerned about the rise of the far right violence and evil tendencies but I’m equally as concerned about the rise of the new liberal left and all the PC bollocks they peddle Two different scenarios I know but both equally as dangerous Political correctness has already done far more damage
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Post by thevoid on Aug 18, 2019 13:15:20 GMT
The far right have never been weaker in this country, far from being on the march. You have to remember that nowadays 'far right' means anyone who disagrees with the far left. It used to be the case that we had the far left, the left, the centre left, the centre, the centre right, the right & the far right. In 2019 we've got the far left & 'literally Hitler', that's it. Over 50 genders and just two political viewpoints 😎
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 18, 2019 13:57:10 GMT
Might not be a far right group per-se rather than just some pissed up idiots who disagree with jones politically. 3am outside a pub literally anything can spark trouble, maybe Owen himself had had a few too many and was acting like a dick ? When booze is involved you just never know. The claim that the far right is on the march isn’t true though, they’re not winning elections and they only attract small gatherings when they hold rallies, truth is this country has never been more tolerant but Corbyn and co use this idea of the far right rising to scare people. Attacks linked to the far right are on the increase on every continent, they've even been included in the terror threat level index since July. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49088293That news report is fascinating. Here’s what the BBC said: Here’s what the Home Office press release says: Now why would the BBC report this news story like that under the headline “UK terror threat level: Risk from right-wing extremists to inform system”? Bias or incompetence? Probably both. Anyway, it allows folk like you to feed your own prejudices.
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Post by serpico on Aug 18, 2019 14:09:03 GMT
Attacks linked to the far right are on the increase on every continent, they've even been included in the terror threat level index since July. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49088293 That news report is fascinating. Here’s what the BBC said: Here’s what the Home Office press release says: Now why would the BBC report this news story like that under the headline “UK terror threat level: Risk from right-wing extremists to inform system”? Bias or incompetence? Probably both. Anyway, it allows folk like you to feed your own prejudices. Nice spot 👍
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Post by followyoudown on Aug 18, 2019 14:11:00 GMT
Might not be a far right group per-se rather than just some pissed up idiots who disagree with jones politically. 3am outside a pub literally anything can spark trouble, maybe Owen himself had had a few too many and was acting like a dick ? When booze is involved you just never know. The claim that the far right is on the march isn’t true though, they’re not winning elections and they only attract small gatherings when they hold rallies, truth is this country has never been more tolerant but Corbyn and co use this idea of the far right rising to scare people. Attacks linked to the far right are on the increase on every continent, they've even been included in the terror threat level index since July. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49088293And Owen Jones is one of their top targets ? Despite all his mealy mouthed apologism for Corbyn and AS that has seen support for Corbyn from David Duke and Nick Griffin can't really see that, more likely some sort of local dispute.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Aug 18, 2019 14:35:31 GMT
Owen Jones is possibly the biggest twat in existence.
Vile man.
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Post by zerps on Aug 18, 2019 14:53:37 GMT
Maybe a self righteous responsible politician shouldn’t be out on the piss at 3am.
Stupid twat.
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Post by musik on Aug 18, 2019 14:56:40 GMT
March music is too monotonous to me. I'm more of a rhumba, jazz and rock guy tbh. It got to swing!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 15:48:58 GMT
😆😆😆😆
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Post by serpico on Aug 18, 2019 16:00:51 GMT
a far right group give him a shoeing yet they say nothing as they attack him ?
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Post by Northy on Aug 18, 2019 16:04:18 GMT
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Post by bathstoke on Aug 18, 2019 16:15:29 GMT
March music is too monotonous to me. I'm more of a rhumba, jazz and rock guy tbh. It got to swing! 😜 You’re so right Musik. Some of the $#!t that passes as classical music is nothing more than 19th Cent jingoism. Not to be confused with this:-
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Post by salopstick on Aug 18, 2019 16:17:51 GMT
Fake/staged homophobic attacks are on the increase
Jussie Smollet
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