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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2019 20:56:11 GMT
Vincentvega has it spot on. The truth hurts, and that is the truth! Spot on!
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Post by sneydgreenstokie1 on Aug 21, 2019 20:56:23 GMT
Here is a stat for you then - Allen, Clucas and Woods managed 4 tackles between them all game!!!
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Post by stokedinohio on Aug 21, 2019 20:56:31 GMT
"Some of what you're suggesting should never be happening, you have to trust your manager, I agree with them acting quicker but blame is being on the wrong people."
They really need to vet their manager hires better then.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 21, 2019 20:57:03 GMT
Vincentvega has it spot on. The truth hurts, and that is the truth! Spot on! Far from it, or do you want Cotes etc to be interfering with who we do and don't sign?
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Post by ethers26 on Aug 21, 2019 20:57:38 GMT
Oh sound. Let's just sack the manager and stop the rot then!! And the next one. And the next one... Because we'll get loads of wins that way šš¼ We might.Ā It's crystal clear the players have no faith in the formation and the methods of the clown in charge.Ā They are downing tools. He's had the end of last season to see it out and identify those he wants to work with. A summer to get his players in, and clearly missed out on a couple. And 4 games to instil a completely new philosophy into a brand new team. Admittedly, defensively they look confused at the moment. Butland's been piss poor, Allen's Allen, Clucas has gone missing most games, Woods not a proper CDM, and our captain/best CB is out. I don't think he's quite there yet transfer-wise in key positions, so we need a short-term fix asap
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 21, 2019 20:58:35 GMT
"Some of what you're suggesting should never be happening, you have to trust your manager, I agree with them acting quicker but blame is being on the wrong people." They really need to vet their manager hires better then. I agree with that completely, they shouldn't hire managers that are only willing to go with what they know and who they have worked with in the past if they want a solid, working recruitment team, it doesn't work when the most important person in the set up is going it alone.
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Post by dastokie on Aug 21, 2019 20:58:48 GMT
The only game we won this season no McClean no Allen no Ince.
The three amigos would be better or stooges or the goodies even bannanrama
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2019 20:58:56 GMT
Did Sam Vokes touch the ball? Donāt think so. He did give a needless foul away and trip over his own feet in the box though.....
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Post by steewee on Aug 21, 2019 20:59:18 GMT
Jones is out of his depth, he's swimming in the toddler pool when he's only capable of the bath the plank! We're playing crap but is it his fault Butland can't make a save? Unless someone else is putting the buffoon in goals, then yes? Also he's played 3 systems in one match. The players look like they have not got a clue what's going on!!!!
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Post by sheriffofrockridge on Aug 21, 2019 20:59:36 GMT
Here is a stat for you then - Allen, Clucas and Woods managed 4 tackles between them all game!!! Just heard that on Sky myself. That is fucking abysmal. That smacks of complacent wankers never on the front foot. No anticipation, no desire, no bollocks. They think they're better than they are. It also shows that there's a gaping hole in the middle of that fucking diamond!
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Post by stokedinohio on Aug 21, 2019 20:59:57 GMT
Even Rowett had 8 wins in 26 matches.
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Post by StoKeith on Aug 21, 2019 21:00:48 GMT
We need a better plan against teams that press as aggressively as Preston did tonight. I thought we constantly looked rushed in possession and ultimately ended up mainly slinging long balls to the edge of their area where their centre backs gobbled it up. Preston were nothing special, but were very well drilled and seemed to put more effort in (McClean aside).
And I hope that Butland can find his confidence somewhere as he can't keep on giving goals away like that.
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Post by neddy on Aug 21, 2019 21:02:13 GMT
We need a better plan against teams that press as aggressively as Preston did tonight. I thought we constantly looked rushed in possession and ultimately ended up mainly slinging long balls to the edge of their area where their centre backs gobbled it up. Preston were nothing special, but were very well drilled and seemed to put more effort in (McClean aside). And I hope that Butland can find his confidence somewhere as he can't keep on giving goals away like that. Didnāt think they pressed us at all they just sat and waited for us to lose the ball!
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 21, 2019 21:03:23 GMT
Even Rowett had 8 wins in 26 matches. Says it all.
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Post by santy on Aug 21, 2019 21:03:47 GMT
Watching Stoke, its like being a bloke with a foot long cock, but it doesn't work and periodically you'll just piss yourself.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2019 21:03:49 GMT
The only game we won this season no McClean no Allen no Ince. The three amigos would be better or stooges or the goodies even bannanrama McClean played at Wigan, didn't he?
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Post by heworksardtho on Aug 21, 2019 21:05:01 GMT
Watching Stoke, its like being a bloke with a foot long cock, but it doesn't work and periodically you'll just piss yourself. Mandingo š
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 21, 2019 21:05:41 GMT
We're playing crap but is it his fault Butland can't make a save? Unless someone else is putting the buffoon in goals, then yes? Also he's played 3 systems in one match. The players look like they have not got a clue what's going on!!!! 3 systems isn't a problem, the players are, Allen doesn't know whats going on even if we play the simplest of 442s, we may as well be playing with 10 men, but something isn't working and if it means ripping it up and going back to basics then so be it, I like the diamond but clearly the players either aren't willing or aren't good enough to play it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2019 21:05:56 GMT
Vincentvega has it spot on. The truth hurts, and that is the truth! Spot on! Far from it, or do you want Cotes etc to be interfering with who we do and don't sign? So if a manager that you had hired came to you and said.. "Can I have 18 million quid to sign a reserve centre half from Spurs who has hardly figured for them and only cost them 4 million quid please?" You'd have said... "Ah orate mate, you make the decisions on players". The owners quite simply have to take a massive proportion of the blame for what has happened to our club, they could have prevented all this from happening.
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Post by 11wilkosinateam on Aug 21, 2019 21:05:59 GMT
Look we're bad, but we're not that bad! No thanks! We are that bad
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2019 21:06:03 GMT
He needs fucking sacking for this interview alone.
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Post by harrysburrow on Aug 21, 2019 21:06:30 GMT
Even Rowett had 8 wins in 26 matches. So Rowett's record was twice as good as NJ's? Oh the fucking irony! š
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Post by harrysburrow on Aug 21, 2019 21:09:01 GMT
He needs fucking sacking for this interview alone. what's he said this time?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 21, 2019 21:10:01 GMT
Far from it, or do you want Cotes etc to be interfering with who we do and don't sign? So if a manager that you had hired came to you and said.. "Can I have 18 million quid to sign a reserve centre half from Spurs who has hardly figured for them and only cost them 4 million quid please?" You'd have said... "Ah orate mate, you make the decisions on players". The owners quite simply have to take a massive proportion of the blame for what has happened to our club, they could have prevented all this from happening. I'd have said, is it in budget, yes, okay then there you go, the chairman HAS to trust his manager, has to, you'd be happy if he had a say in who we sign? Stoke try to sign player X but the chairman says he's crap so they pulled out, I can see the melt down now.
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Post by strangerthingshappen on Aug 21, 2019 21:11:10 GMT
Even Rowett had 8 wins in 26 matches. So Rowett's record was twice as good as NJ's? Oh the fucking irony! š I reckon things would look very different if rowett was given a longer reign .
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2019 21:12:04 GMT
He needs fucking sacking for this interview alone. what's he said this time? Basically just said on national tv heās going to drop Butland then complained about the media circus around Jack. Said there is nothing wrong with his tactics and we arenāt getting carved open. Said we were a disjointed group of players when he arrived yet again airing out dirty laundry - on fucking national tv. Taking no blame himself! Me me fucking me. I donāt think Iāve ever been this angry at a Stoke manager before. Full fucking Rowett that interview was.
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Post by nott1 on Aug 21, 2019 21:17:42 GMT
what's he said this time? Basically just said on national tv heās going to drop Butland then complained about the media circus around Jack. Said there is nothing wrong with his tactics and we arenāt getting carved open. Said we were a disjointed group of players when he arrived yet again airing out dirty laundry - on fucking national tv. Taking no blame himself! Me me fucking me. I donāt think Iāve ever been this angry at a Stoke manager before. Full fucking Rowett that interview was. Also this is the team Jones has assembled himself!
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Post by harrysburrow on Aug 21, 2019 21:20:33 GMT
what's he said this time? Basically just said on national tv heās going to drop Butland then complained about the media circus around Jack. Said there is nothing wrong with his tactics and we arenāt getting carved open. Said we were a disjointed group of players when he arrived yet again airing out dirty laundry - on fucking national tv. Taking no blame himself! Me me fucking me. I donāt think Iāve ever been this angry at a Stoke manager before. Full fucking Rowett that interview was. Just seen some quotes from the interview on the other thread mate. He's starting talking in riddles - and reckons we're not doing much wrong other than going 1 or 2 behind? The endearing honesty thing is wearing thin already too.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2019 21:21:42 GMT
Basically just said on national tv heās going to drop Butland then complained about the media circus around Jack. Said there is nothing wrong with his tactics and we arenāt getting carved open. Said we were a disjointed group of players when he arrived yet again airing out dirty laundry - on fucking national tv. Taking no blame himself! Me me fucking me. I donāt think Iāve ever been this angry at a Stoke manager before. Full fucking Rowett that interview was. Just seen some quotes from the interview on the other thread mate. He's starting talking in riddles - and reckons we're not doing much wrong other than going 1 or 2 behind? The endearing honesty thing is wearing thin already too. Heās literally a fucking lunatic!
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Post by nott1 on Aug 21, 2019 21:22:12 GMT
And get Bojan back!!!!!!!!!
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