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Post by mermaidsal on Aug 17, 2019 20:50:27 GMT
I just wish we'd learn how to win. I'm still not convinced by the diamond - either it's not as good an idea as Nate thinks or we don't have the players yet. But... after a dire start to the season we're steadily improving, gaining confidence as a unit and playing some genuinely good stuff. I actually enjoyed today (altho my dad, being a Derby fan, enjoyed it more). Not a faultless job of management obvs... on reflection it's
6* from me
add * if you were there please
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Post by neilb987 on Aug 17, 2019 20:54:27 GMT
7* for me, though Nath really needs to sort out our dodgy defending ...
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Post by an348398 on Aug 17, 2019 20:56:21 GMT
7* We’re creating chances for fun, when was the last time we could say that?? Just need to tighten up at the back
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Post by RAF on Aug 17, 2019 20:57:06 GMT
7 from me.
Defence is costing us still.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 17, 2019 20:58:46 GMT
7, if we can sort the defence out or at least get players tracking who they're meant to we could have a pretty good season.
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Post by serpico on Aug 17, 2019 20:59:59 GMT
Solid 7
Should have been 2 or 3 up at HT, looked like we might overwhelm them at times, shame we couldn’t get a 3rd and kill the game off.
Jury is still out on the diamond, I’m not convinced we can ever keep clean sheets with it, we’ve conceded 7 in 3. We cannot expect to score 3 goals every game!
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Post by neddy on Aug 17, 2019 21:01:46 GMT
Solid 7 Should have been 2 or 3 up at HT, looked like we might overwhelm at times, shame we couldn’t get a 3rd and kill the game off. Jury is still out on the diamond, I’m not convinced we can ever keep clean sheets with it, we’ve conceded 7 in 3. We cannot expect to score 3 goals every game! Anybody think Shawcross would have made the difference?
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Post by serpico on Aug 17, 2019 21:05:56 GMT
Solid 7 Should have been 2 or 3 up at HT, looked like we might overwhelm at times, shame we couldn’t get a 3rd and kill the game off. Jury is still out on the diamond, I’m not convinced we can ever keep clean sheets with it, we’ve conceded 7 in 3. We cannot expect to score 3 goals every game! Anybody think Shawcross would have made the difference? He’s not what he used to be but he is good at organizing a defense, I think we have missed him from that point of view.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Aug 17, 2019 21:34:40 GMT
8* enjoyed the football today, the quality on offers seems to be improving, also would have been easy to drop heads after conceding the early goal
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2019 23:08:35 GMT
Are we rating Jones or the result?
If we rate jones then what did the bloke do wrong? Set the team up on the from foot, conceded a soft goal but then showed a fantastic belief and attitude and deservedly went ahead. We’ve missed glorious chances yet again to win 2 games never mind 1.
Subs IMO were bang on.
So for me jones 10.
Sloppy finishing 1!
Get behind the bloke as he will build something special here I’m convinced
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 0:49:00 GMT
5*
Subs made absolutely no sense.
Tactics he set out didn't work so the only thing that did was hoofing it. We really need a better plan A and a better plan B.
Derby weren't a good side, shouldn't have walked away from this with a draw.
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Post by hyaduck on Aug 18, 2019 1:37:48 GMT
Solid 7 Should have been 2 or 3 up at HT, looked like we might overwhelm at times, shame we couldn’t get a 3rd and kill the game off. Jury is still out on the diamond, I’m not convinced we can ever keep clean sheets with it, we’ve conceded 7 in 3. We cannot expect to score 3 goals every game! Anybody think Shawcross would have made the difference? Shawcross is way too slow, with opponents running into the box with pace we’d be conceding far more goals.
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Post by kustokie on Aug 18, 2019 1:49:50 GMT
5* Subs made absolutely no sense. Tactics he set out didn't work so the only thing that did was hoofing it. We really need a better plan A and a better plan B. Derby weren't a good side, shouldn't have walked away from this with a draw. I don’t think Derby, Charlton or Wigan looked good because we made them look poor. We should have won all three games by 3 or 4, if we’d taken our chances. 8 subs were wrong again! What’s Etebo going to contribute in 7 minutes. He should have come for Allen after 70 minutes, he might have made the difference.
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Post by OldStokie on Aug 18, 2019 2:27:28 GMT
A good 7 from me.
OS.
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Post by Ex-term-oat-cake on Aug 18, 2019 2:35:59 GMT
Pros and Cons.
Need Etebo and Edwards back in. Need Allen out. Switch McClean and Clucas round?
Home draw, so...
5
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Post by LankyPotter on Aug 18, 2019 6:40:45 GMT
We created enough chances to win that games two times over, that’s down to the diamond and the lads we have up front! Im still convinced that we would look a better side for not having joe allen in it.
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Post by zerps on Aug 18, 2019 6:46:14 GMT
Lets face it, it was a couple of millimetres short of being a 9 performance all round. Unfortunately we hit the post twice again!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 6:57:13 GMT
Lets face it, it was a couple of millimetres short of being a 9 performance all round. Unfortunately we hit the post twice again! This is where we need to be consistent in our analysis too. QPR should have been 3 up according to some just coz they came close. Yet when we go close or hit the beans it doesn't seem to matter or at least its evidence we're shit. That wasa great game yesterday. Smith is still struggling but I think Allan doesnt give him the support needed. Needs Etebo instead. Set up well, took the game to them and did more than enough to win. Not going to score Jones down for hitting the post twice, not sending a player off or a clumsy penalty. 9 for me
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Post by fca47 on Aug 18, 2019 7:05:50 GMT
7 - we at last seem to have some balls and Didn't fold.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 18, 2019 7:09:43 GMT
5* Subs made absolutely no sense. Tactics he set out didn't work so the only thing that did was hoofing it. We really need a better plan A and a better plan B. Derby weren't a good side, shouldn't have walked away from this with a draw. I don’t think Derby, Charlton or Wigan looked good because we made them look poor. We should have won all three games by 3 or 4, if we’d taken our chances. 8 subs were wrong again! What’s Etebo going to contribute in 7 minutes. He should have come for Allen after 70 minutes, he might have made the difference. Didn't Clucas get a knock?
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Aug 18, 2019 7:18:31 GMT
Everyone is getting very excited about 1 point from 9 and 7 goals conceded in 3 games.
All three opponents have been poor. For example, wank fat boy martin shitty waghorn, who wasn't good enough for rangers, scored two against us yesterday.
It isn't good enough to be honest. We are not getting the best out of this squad
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Post by zerps on Aug 18, 2019 7:21:43 GMT
Everyone is getting very excited about 1 point from 9 and 7 goals conceded in 3 games. All three opponents have been poor. For example, wank fat boy martin shitty waghorn, who wasn't good enough for rangers, scored two against us yesterday. It isn't good enough to be honest. We are not getting the best out of this squad So by your logic we can’t win whatever happens. If we beat a team with waghorn in it’s just because they’re a shit team with rangers rejects. We’re making progress. If you can’t see that, unlucky.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 18, 2019 7:23:34 GMT
Everyone is getting very excited about 1 point from 9 and 7 goals conceded in 3 games. All three opponents have been poor. For example, wank fat boy martin shitty waghorn, who wasn't good enough for rangers, scored two against us yesterday. It isn't good enough to be honest. We are not getting the best out of this squad Derby are going to be in the top 6-8 aren’t they? I don’t think people are getting excited as such as just recognising the incremental improvement. We played well yesterday. Defensively we still have issues but we are creating chances, for the first time in a long time, and we’re fitter and braver than we’ve been for a while as well.
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Post by walrus on Aug 18, 2019 7:27:16 GMT
Everyone is getting very excited about 1 point from 9 and 7 goals conceded in 3 games. All three opponents have been poor. For example, wank fat boy martin shitty waghorn, who wasn't good enough for rangers, scored two against us yesterday. It isn't good enough to be honest. We are not getting the best out of this squad Bit harsh. People are getting excited because we’re finally producing some decent football going forward and there was more entertainment in yesterday’s match than half of last seasons’s home games combined. Waghorn is a good striker at this level. He scored nearly one in two at Rangers and scored 16 in the league for Ipswich a couple of years back. Lindsay wasn’t as tight to him as he could have been but you can’t deny his first goal was a quality finish.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Aug 18, 2019 7:29:01 GMT
I agree the performances are improving bit with the players we have we should always be better than Derby.
I watched large parts of a replay of the game earlier as I couldn't get back to sleep. We have conceded 2 goals, and should have conceded 3, to martyn waghorn.
We look too disorganised much of the time, subs don't seem to improve things. We are soft. I expect a lot more from Jones.
If we play like we did yesterday, despite the improvements, we will lose the next two games
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Aug 18, 2019 7:29:11 GMT
8,just sort out that defence.
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Post by jeycov on Aug 18, 2019 7:31:25 GMT
Solid 7 Should have been 2 or 3 up at HT, looked like we might overwhelm at times, shame we couldn’t get a 3rd and kill the game off. Jury is still out on the diamond, I’m not convinced we can ever keep clean sheets with it, we’ve conceded 7 in 3. We cannot expect to score 3 goals every game! Anybody think Shawcross would have made the difference? Missing his organisation
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Aug 18, 2019 7:37:22 GMT
Everyone is getting very excited about 1 point from 9 and 7 goals conceded in 3 games. All three opponents have been poor. For example, wank fat boy martin shitty waghorn, who wasn't good enough for rangers, scored two against us yesterday. It isn't good enough to be honest. We are not getting the best out of this squad Bit harsh. People are getting excited because we’re finally producing some decent football going forward and there was more entertainment in yesterday’s match than half of last seasons’s home games combined. Waghorn is a good striker at this level. He scored nearly one in two at Rangers and scored 16 in the league for Ipswich a couple of years back. Lindsay wasn’t as tight to him as he could have been but you can’t deny his first goal was a quality finish. I would score 1 in 2 for rangers. our defending yesterday was atrocious
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 18, 2019 7:37:55 GMT
I agree the performances are improving bit with the players we have we should always be better than Derby. I watched large parts of a replay of the game earlier as I couldn't get back to sleep. We have conceded 2 goals, and should have conceded 3, to martyn waghorn. We look too disorganised much of the time, subs don't seem to improve things. We are soft. I expect a lot more from Jones. If we play like we did yesterday, despite the improvements, we will lose the next two games What, even if we convert more of the chances we create? Waghorn isn’t a bad player and one of the goals was a penalty. Why should we suddenly be better than Derby when they finished 10 places above us last season?
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Post by zerps on Aug 18, 2019 7:39:35 GMT
I agree the performances are improving bit with the players we have we should always be better than Derby. I watched large parts of a replay of the game earlier as I couldn't get back to sleep. We have conceded 2 goals, and should have conceded 3, to martyn waghorn. We look too disorganised much of the time, subs don't seem to improve things. We are soft. I expect a lot more from Jones. If we play like we did yesterday, despite the improvements, we will lose the next two games What, even if we convert more of the chances we create? Waghorn isn’t a bad player and one of the goals was a penalty. Why should we suddenly be better than Derby when they finished 10 places above us last season? Because they’ve got an ex rangers player obviously
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