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Post by brumstokie on Aug 16, 2019 19:31:47 GMT
Which one of the dwarfs is he then? Grumpy atm
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Post by rawli on Aug 16, 2019 19:34:05 GMT
Love Shaq (not a B52s reference) Would have been a good song for him.
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Post by rawli on Aug 16, 2019 19:45:19 GMT
Which one of the dwarfs is he then? Mardy
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 16, 2019 19:58:06 GMT
My heart bleeds for him.
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Post by crouchie on Aug 16, 2019 20:03:33 GMT
shaq will always be best when he's a big fish in a small pond
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Post by 11wilkosinateam on Aug 16, 2019 20:14:42 GMT
Who is he expecting to replace ? Mane or Salah ?
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Post by strettonstokie on Aug 16, 2019 20:39:21 GMT
Absolutely class player and 2 time champions League winner and we had him at stoke......it's going to be an awfully long time before we get someone of his class again if we ever do
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2019 20:39:56 GMT
Us "Oldies" can wax lyrical about old Stoke players until we bore you youngsters to death.
With BMX - you had a glimpse of what football was like back in the early seventies and some following years. We could beat any team - and then the roof of the stand blew off.
I call it a "glimpse" because it didn't last long. It was amazing whilst it lasted - I watched Stoke then, thinking that this is as good as anything that I have seen before. Somewhere in my heart I just knew it wouldn't last. My heart told me that Bojan would get clogged by some heavy footed defender, and it would all be over. Well it didn't happen that way, and I for one do not blame a pitch at Rochdale.
My late father in law used to sit there talking about the team that we had just before WW2. He just ran out names of players that we have only heard about. We could have beaten every team and won everything. Then a roof didn't blow off - a war broke out. My late FIL also saw the BMX revival, but as much as he loved it - he always maintained that the pre war team was better.
We have had a run of managers that have got our club to where we are now. I don't know if this young manager has the skills to bring our team back to our former glory. If he can't do it, I certainly cannot say "Appoint this manager", or "Appoint that Manager".
From what I have seen of Nathan - let him get on with it. My heart is saying that this man could do the job.
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Post by swampySCFC on Aug 16, 2019 20:52:28 GMT
Me neither Im not on 100k a week. Fucking idiot
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Post by rawli on Aug 16, 2019 20:52:52 GMT
shaq will always be best when he's a big fish in a small pond That's a very small pond.
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Post by ChesterStokie on Aug 16, 2019 20:55:23 GMT
Doubt very much there was an option to do that. Shaq’s contract clearly had very specific conditions with regard his potential departure from the club. I am sure you are right. We had an OBLIGATION to sell if we received an offer of a certain size. We didn't have the option to add contingency clauses to the deal. Liverpool offered the price, Shaqiri was happy to join them - case closed! Come on LP you shouldn't let the facts get in the way of a good CEO-bashing opportunity
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Post by boothenesque on Aug 16, 2019 21:28:13 GMT
What is it with those tasked running Stoke City that we will make nothing on Shaq and Liverpool will make a stonking profit. Why are we so bad at selling and buying players?
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Post by NassauDave on Aug 16, 2019 21:51:17 GMT
Belongs somewhere like psg now Or PTSD. F.C. preferably.
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Post by Davef on Aug 16, 2019 21:51:55 GMT
What is it with those tasked running Stoke City that we will make nothing on Shaq and Liverpool will make a stonking profit. Why are we so bad at selling and buying players? When you say "stonking profit", what kind of figure are you expecting Liverpool to get for him? There's nothing at the moment to suggest there's a massive clamour to sign him. And it's been well documented why Liverpool signed him for £13M.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Aug 16, 2019 22:03:17 GMT
Love Shaq (not a B52s reference) He used to “Roam” all over the pitch...😎
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Post by s8to on Aug 16, 2019 22:22:25 GMT
No passengers in our side so wouldn't fit in here now. Highly skillful yes but doesn't work hard enough for the team in my opinion. If he wants more game time then he should work harder for a place rather than jumping ship every time things get tough. I never really took to him as a player, he has flashes of brilliance on the back of being shit all game. I can understand why some fans like him though, he just ain't my cup of tea. Err cough cough... Ince?
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Aug 16, 2019 23:08:53 GMT
Yes I bet he would love to play in the championship for us. It would be beautiful but will never happen, although I never thought he'd sign for us at all.....
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Post by GoBoks on Aug 17, 2019 0:36:03 GMT
What is it with those tasked running Stoke City that we will make nothing on Shaq and Liverpool will make a stonking profit. Why are we so bad at selling and buying players? ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz Snooze on!
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Aug 17, 2019 1:44:13 GMT
The lack of appreciation some folks have when it comes to Shaqiri, Arnautovic and Bojan is ridiculous. "Well he was okay but xyz". I can't get my head around it. People criticised Arnautovic, people criticised Shaqiri, and more recently, people criticised Bojan.....without realising just how lucky we've been to having them here in the first place!!! And yet Shaqiri and Bojan never said a bad word against the club!!!
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Post by heworksardtho on Aug 17, 2019 5:17:56 GMT
Which one of the dwarfs is he then? Well I’m Grumpy 😎
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Post by scfcrmagic on Aug 17, 2019 5:19:05 GMT
I enjoyed watching Shaq and Arnie play for Stoke ....but I think we were just a temporary club for them whilst they looked to find a bigger better club. Problem is the better clubs have squads with much better players and Arnie and Shaq look okay but not exceptional . Plus you need to have team spirit and I think both of them were more focused on themselves. Bojan was different I’m sad to see him go, not sure why the Spanish prince didn’t fit in to the team....bit like Tuncay. I thought they were both Quality but never really got a chance to shine ..
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 17, 2019 6:14:52 GMT
What is it with those tasked running Stoke City that we will make nothing on Shaq and Liverpool will make a stonking profit. Why are we so bad at selling and buying players? When you say "stonking profit", what kind of figure are you expecting Liverpool to get for him? There's nothing at the moment to suggest there's a massive clamour to sign him. And it's been well documented why Liverpool signed him for £13M. The core point thought is it wasn’t an accident he could be signed for £13m those in charge of commercial negotiation agreed to it in the first place and we’re complacent enough to let it run until it was too late . The fact is a prime asset was allowed to leave for circa 50% of market value in an inflationary market and that’s Down to poor commercial practice indeed our inability to manage the exit of playing assets is now costing us dearly with FFP constraining our ability to use the owners willingness to invest see today’s forward line and the absence of the summers top target .
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Aug 17, 2019 7:44:23 GMT
No passengers in our side so wouldn't fit in here now. Highly skillful yes but doesn't work hard enough for the team in my opinion. If he wants more game time then he should work harder for a place rather than jumping ship every time things get tough. I never really took to him as a player, he has flashes of brilliance on the back of being shit all game. I can understand why some fans like him though, he just ain't my cup of tea. Think we probably don't deserve good players tbh
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Post by Davef on Aug 17, 2019 7:51:41 GMT
When you say "stonking profit", what kind of figure are you expecting Liverpool to get for him? There's nothing at the moment to suggest there's a massive clamour to sign him. And it's been well documented why Liverpool signed him for £13M. The core point thought is it wasn’t an accident he could be signed for £13m those in charge of commercial negotiation agreed to it in the first place and we’re complacent enough to let it run until it was too late . The fact is a prime asset was allowed to leave for circa 50% of market value in an inflationary market and that’s Down to poor commercial practice indeed our inability to manage the exit of playing assets is now costing us dearly with FFP constraining our ability to use the owners willingness to invest see today’s forward line and the absence of the summers top target . You know full well that Shaqiri would never have entertained joining Stoke had a relegation release clause not been inserted into his contract. Had negotiations broken down over that, you'd have been at the front of the queue criticising "commercial practice".
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 17, 2019 7:53:18 GMT
I wouldn't put shaqiri ahead of liam Lawrence in a premier league stoke 11. He'd feature in that 11 about as often as he plays for liverpool
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2019 7:58:40 GMT
The lack of appreciation some folks have when it comes to Shaqiri, Arnautovic and Bojan is ridiculous. "Well he was okay but xyz". I can't get my head around it. I think is fair to say Shakiri and Bojan had flaws with their games which is why they ended up at Stoke. Arnie is an exception, he was a brilliant player who had it all. On the pitch Arnie gave us his all but off it he had an issue with his ego. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/49343208
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Post by biglad180 on Aug 17, 2019 8:01:07 GMT
thought shaq was a real good player. one i never thought i would see in a stoke shirt. but he needs to be playing regular football some where not warming liverpools bench. we know he is getting medals but they mean nothing if you are not playing ie 2 champion league winners medals and a super cup winners medal without taking part in any of those games. i would not knock shaq but at 26 he should be playing week in and week out for someone
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 17, 2019 8:12:03 GMT
The core point thought is it wasn’t an accident he could be signed for £13m those in charge of commercial negotiation agreed to it in the first place and we’re complacent enough to let it run until it was too late . The fact is a prime asset was allowed to leave for circa 50% of market value in an inflationary market and that’s Down to poor commercial practice indeed our inability to manage the exit of playing assets is now costing us dearly with FFP constraining our ability to use the owners willingness to invest see today’s forward line and the absence of the summers top target . You know full well that Shaqiri would never have entertained joining Stoke had a relegation release clause not been inserted into his contract. Had negotiations broken down over that, you'd have been at the front of the queue criticising "commercial practice". I know full well we had the duration of the contract to amend it once he’d settled as may others do , I know you defend it but at the end of the day a very desirable asset went to a team that win the champions league and finished second in the league for considerable less than market value and it doesn’t wash to say “ unavoidable “ very very few premier league players at his age go for 50% of market value from other clubs
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Post by Davef on Aug 17, 2019 8:26:51 GMT
You know full well that Shaqiri would never have entertained joining Stoke had a relegation release clause not been inserted into his contract. Had negotiations broken down over that, you'd have been at the front of the queue criticising "commercial practice". I know full well we had the duration of the contract to amend it once he’d settled as may others do , I know you defend it but at the end of the day a very desirable asset went to a team that win the champions league and finished second in the league for considerable less than market value and it doesn’t wash to say “ unavoidable “ very very few premier league players at his age go for 50% of market value from other clubs And what if Shaqiri didn't want it amending? You're talking absolute nonsense here.
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Post by thisisouryear on Aug 17, 2019 8:30:26 GMT
I wouldn't put shaqiri ahead of liam Lawrence in a premier league stoke 11. He'd feature in that 11 about as often as he plays for liverpool Liam Lawrence would be the 1st name on the sheet for me.
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