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Post by neddy on Aug 18, 2019 8:27:47 GMT
It's ok benji, i'm willing to take a guess. Judging by your almost unique use of the English language, i think i know exactly what your background in business is; you're a Nigerian Prince who needs my email address in order to forward me an inheritance. Miles off I’ve never Even been to Nigeria but I do admit 1 I’ve never run a business Losing £30m + in a year 2 I’ve never run a business which has reduced its ongoing revenue by 59% per annum in year one and 70% in year two 3 I’ve never run a business which has turned £100m of shareholder loans into significantly less 4 I’ve never run a business that lost 15% if it’s customers year on year 5 I’ve never run a Business theatre paid me circa £1m a year to achieve the above and below and stayed in role 6 I’ve never run a business that’s lost it’s key asset for 50% of market value and yet can’t give away its most expensive investment acquisitions So Perhaps your right I don’t reply have the qualified insight Tricky to do all that in a sweet shop though Benji 🤦♂️😂😀. |
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Post by stokie223 on Aug 18, 2019 10:42:19 GMT
Genuinely don't understand how he's not had more minutes. I think he's played very well whenever he's featured for them. We were incredibly lucky to have a player of his calibre in the red and white. I’ve seen him turn in some pretty average performances for Liverpool off the bench, so not surprising that he’s not first choice. I’ll always have good memories of what he did for us though. That cross arm goal celebration, nodding his head 😆 Whenever I've seen him play, personally I think he's been one of their better players. Of course he's not going to start with the wealth of talent they have at their disposal, but I'm surprised he's not featured more regularly. I can't imagine there's many other players they have that have a better return of goals/assists per minutes played. I think the one thing he's really lacking is that defensive work rate, which Klopp likes. I watched Liverpool vs. Norwich and Salah ran 70/80 yards tracking back and tackled his man on the edge of the box - that's not something you'd see Shaqiri doing. |
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Post by OldStokie on Aug 18, 2019 10:57:57 GMT
Is it just me who chuckles when I read Benji's posts? He/she (  ) may be contentious but he/she is unique in that when the monkey dust wears off he/she can actually talk (some) commonsense. If you can interprete his affectations, that is. In a strange way he reminds me of Musik. OS. |
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Aug 19, 2019 9:21:12 GMT
It's ok benji, i'm willing to take a guess. Judging by your almost unique use of the English language, i think i know exactly what your background in business is; you're a Nigerian Prince who needs my email address in order to forward me an inheritance. Miles off I’ve never Even been to Nigeria but I do admit 1 I’ve never run a business Losing £30m + in a year 2 I’ve never run a business which has reduced its ongoing revenue by 59% per annum in year one and 70% in year two 3 I’ve never run a business which has turned £100m of shareholder loans into significantly less 4 I’ve never run a business that lost 15% if it’s customers year on year 5 I’ve never run a Business theatre paid me circa £1m a year to achieve the above and below and stayed in role 6 I’ve never run a business that’s lost it’s key asset for 50% of market value and yet can’t give away its most expensive investment acquisitions So Perhaps your right I don’t reply have the qualified insight
That's not really how making a valid point works mate i'm afraid  You can't just say "Well, i've never failed at doing something i've never actually attempted in the first place, so therefore i know what i'm talking about".
I've never designed a tower block that falls after an earthquake, but that doesn't mean i suddenly know more than the architects, structural engineers and builders so can now start giving them advice on how to do it properly.
I've never built a space shuttle that blew up on take off, but that doesn't actually mean i therefore know how to build them better than NASA and can start giving them advice on how to do it properly.
Have you ever run a successful multi-million pound fotball club?
That's the only qualification you really need in order to then be able to criticise others' business acumen in that field benji....otherwise you're not really in a positon to judge as you have no real idea how they work, other than Joe Public's notion of "Well you must do x,y and z, it's that easy" which is quite simply bollocks, as if they were as easy to run as some on here think then why aren't we all doing it and raking in the cash?
In short benj mate....there is shitloads that goes into running a football club that you will have literally no clue about whatsoever, so why don't you keep your "How to be a successful billionaire football club owner" speeches for pissed up ramblings down the pub eh? The Coates family seem to know what they're doing business wise in general, so it's doubtful they'd appoint and then be happy to keep on people in senior positions who are as clueless as you (old Rockerfeller Benji) seem to think.
Do you see how it works benj? (I'm guessing you probably don't)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 9:40:32 GMT
Miles off I’ve never Even been to Nigeria but I do admit 1 I’ve never run a business Losing £30m + in a year 2 I’ve never run a business which has reduced its ongoing revenue by 59% per annum in year one and 70% in year two 3 I’ve never run a business which has turned £100m of shareholder loans into significantly less 4 I’ve never run a business that lost 15% if it’s customers year on year 5 I’ve never run a Business theatre paid me circa £1m a year to achieve the above and below and stayed in role 6 I’ve never run a business that’s lost it’s key asset for 50% of market value and yet can’t give away its most expensive investment acquisitions So Perhaps your right I don’t reply have the qualified insight That's not really how making a valid point works mate i'm afraid You can't just say "Well, i've never failed at doing something i've never actually attempted in the first place, so therefore i know what i'm talking about". I've never designed a tower block that falls after an earthquake, but that doesn't mean i suddenly know more than the architects, structural engineers and builders so can now start giving them advice on how to do it properly.
I've never built a space shuttle that blew up on take off, but that doesn't actually mean i therefore know how to build them better than NASA and can start giving them advice on how to do it properly.
Have you ever run a successful multi-million pound fotball club? That's the only qualification you really need in order to then be able to criticise others' business acumen in that field benji....otherwise you're not really in a positon to judge as you have no real idea how they work, other than Joe Public's notion of "Well you must do x,y and z, it's that easy" which is quite simply bollocks, as if they were as easy to run as some on here think then why aren't we all doing it and raking in the cash? In short benj mate....there is shitloads that goes into running a football club that you will have literally no clue about whatsoever, so why don't you keep your "How to be a successful billionaire football club owner" speeches for pissed up ramblings down the pub eh? The Coates family seem to know what they're doing business wise in general, so it's doubtful they'd appoint and then be happy to keep on people in senior positions who are as clueless as you (old Rockerfeller Benji) seem to think.
Do you see how it works benj? (I'm guessing you probably don't)
I have, but who'd have had expected a 7 on the Richter scale in Grimsby of all places?........... |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 19, 2019 9:48:30 GMT
Miles off I’ve never Even been to Nigeria but I do admit 1 I’ve never run a business Losing £30m + in a year 2 I’ve never run a business which has reduced its ongoing revenue by 59% per annum in year one and 70% in year two 3 I’ve never run a business which has turned £100m of shareholder loans into significantly less 4 I’ve never run a business that lost 15% if it’s customers year on year 5 I’ve never run a Business theatre paid me circa £1m a year to achieve the above and below and stayed in role 6 I’ve never run a business that’s lost it’s key asset for 50% of market value and yet can’t give away its most expensive investment acquisitions So Perhaps your right I don’t reply have the qualified insight
That's not really how making a valid point works mate i'm afraid You can't just say "Well, i've never failed at doing something i've never actually attempted in the first place, so therefore i know what i'm talking about".
I've never designed a tower block that falls after an earthquake, but that doesn't mean i suddenly know more than the architects, structural engineers and builders so can now start giving them advice on how to do it properly.
I've never built a space shuttle that blew up on take off, but that doesn't actually mean i therefore know how to build them better than NASA and can start giving them advice on how to do it properly.
Have you ever run a successful multi-million pound fotball club?
That's the only qualification you really need in order to then be able to criticise others' business acumen in that field benji....otherwise you're not really in a positon to judge as you have no real idea how they work, other than Joe Public's notion of "Well you must do x,y and z, it's that easy" which is quite simply bollocks, as if they were as easy to run as some on here think then why aren't we all doing it and raking in the cash?
In short benj mate....there is shitloads that goes into running a football club that you will have literally no clue about whatsoever, so why don't you keep your "How to be a successful billionaire football club owner" speeches for pissed up ramblings down the pub eh? The Coates family seem to know what they're doing business wise in general, so it's doubtful they'd appoint and then be happy to keep on people in senior positions who are as clueless as you (old Rockerfeller Benji) seem to think.
Do you see how it works benj? (I'm guessing you probably don't)
So only people who’ve run successfully football clubs can comment , on that basis only one person in the city can in this city who has notably the retired chairman and of course there is the issue ,since he stepped back we’ve fallen apart .why some in here continue to berate him god only knows . However your principal is flawed for example mourinhio. Was never a good footballer but brilliant manager , Mcallveny never ran a football club but held very credible views , it’s simply pissed up bollocks to say if someone hasn’t done something they can’t have a credible view , But if you think are off field management are doing a good job then fine we disagree , I’ve never claimed to be an infallible or significant business presence just simply that in my considered long term held and expressed view the chief executive has failed , failed and failed , and failed again and again and many of today’s issues could be seen coming years ago |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 9:50:11 GMT
That's not really how making a valid point works mate i'm afraid You can't just say "Well, i've never failed at doing something i've never actually attempted in the first place, so therefore i know what i'm talking about". I've never designed a tower block that falls after an earthquake, but that doesn't mean i suddenly know more than the architects, structural engineers and builders so can now start giving them advice on how to do it properly.
I've never built a space shuttle that blew up on take off, but that doesn't actually mean i therefore know how to build them better than NASA and can start giving them advice on how to do it properly.
Have you ever run a successful multi-million pound fotball club? That's the only qualification you really need in order to then be able to criticise others' business acumen in that field benji....otherwise you're not really in a positon to judge as you have no real idea how they work, other than Joe Public's notion of "Well you must do x,y and z, it's that easy" which is quite simply bollocks, as if they were as easy to run as some on here think then why aren't we all doing it and raking in the cash? In short benj mate....there is shitloads that goes into running a football club that you will have literally no clue about whatsoever, so why don't you keep your "How to be a successful billionaire football club owner" speeches for pissed up ramblings down the pub eh? The Coates family seem to know what they're doing business wise in general, so it's doubtful they'd appoint and then be happy to keep on people in senior positions who are as clueless as you (old Rockerfeller Benji) seem to think.
Do you see how it works benj? (I'm guessing you probably don't)
So only people who’ve run successfully football clubs can comment , on that basis only one person in the city can in this city who has notably the retired chairman and of course there is the issue ,since he stepped back we’ve fallen apart .why some in here continue to berate him god only knows . However your principal is flawed for example mourinhio. Was never a good footballer but brilliant manager , Mcallveny never ran a football club but held very credible views , it’s simply pissed up bollocks to say if someone hasn’t done something they can’t have a credible view , But if you think are off field management are doing a good job then fine we disagree , I’ve never claimed to be an infallible or significant business presence just simply that in my considered long term held and expressed view the chief executive has failed , failed and failed , and failed again and again and many of today’s issues could be seen coming years ago They can comment, but wearing it as a badge of honour is a bit different if you've never walked the walk...... |
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Aug 19, 2019 10:15:50 GMT
That's not really how making a valid point works mate i'm afraid You can't just say "Well, i've never failed at doing something i've never actually attempted in the first place, so therefore i know what i'm talking about".
I've never designed a tower block that falls after an earthquake, but that doesn't mean i suddenly know more than the architects, structural engineers and builders so can now start giving them advice on how to do it properly.
I've never built a space shuttle that blew up on take off, but that doesn't actually mean i therefore know how to build them better than NASA and can start giving them advice on how to do it properly.
Have you ever run a successful multi-million pound fotball club?
That's the only qualification you really need in order to then be able to criticise others' business acumen in that field benji....otherwise you're not really in a positon to judge as you have no real idea how they work, other than Joe Public's notion of "Well you must do x,y and z, it's that easy" which is quite simply bollocks, as if they were as easy to run as some on here think then why aren't we all doing it and raking in the cash?
In short benj mate....there is shitloads that goes into running a football club that you will have literally no clue about whatsoever, so why don't you keep your "How to be a successful billionaire football club owner" speeches for pissed up ramblings down the pub eh? The Coates family seem to know what they're doing business wise in general, so it's doubtful they'd appoint and then be happy to keep on people in senior positions who are as clueless as you (old Rockerfeller Benji) seem to think.
Do you see how it works benj? (I'm guessing you probably don't)
So only people who’ve run successfully football clubs can comment , on that basis only one person in the city can in this city who has notably the retired chairman and of course there is the issue ,since he stepped back we’ve fallen apart .why some in here continue to berate him god only knows . However your principal is flawed for example mourinhio. Was never a good footballer but brilliant manager , Mcallveny never ran a football club but held very credible views , it’s simply pissed up bollocks to say if someone hasn’t done something they can’t have a credible view , But if you think are off field management are doing a good job then fine we disagree , I’ve never claimed to be an infallible or significant business presence just simply that in my considered long term held and expressed view the chief executive has failed , failed and failed , and failed again and again and many of today’s issues could be seen coming years ago
You can comment benji
However, commenting is different to crticising peopole, saying people can't do their job and aren't "commercially savvy" when you literally have the square root of fuck all knowledge of what goes into running that type of business.
YOU HAVE NO CLUE AND SAYING "I'VE NEVER FAILED AT SOMETHING" does NOT in any way, shape or form then make you an expert in it....your lack of ability to use basic logic and reasoning is really fucking worrying for a grown adult to be honest benj! Seriously, it really is!
Comment on things you know fuck all about as much as you want, but you should 100% then expect people to completely dismiss and ignore your comments on the matter as you have no knowledge, let alone expertise, in it.
Really is that simple. You know absolutely no more than anyone on here when it comes to running a football club, so you have literally no counter argument of any kind of relevance when people dismiss you...because YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE FUCKING TALKING ABOUT!!!
Is that clear enough?
I never at any point said you couldn't comment...i simply said that your post in no way made any valid points whatsover as to why you were in any kind of position to criticise...it still doesn't and you're still not. I said i wondered what your backround in business was, instead of answering the question you simply gave a list of things you haven't done instead (presumably because if you DID tell everyone about your extensive business background and history of running successful football clubs, you'd probably be proving my point completely about you being fucking clueless when it comes to this particular subject...and most you tend to comment on it seems)
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 19, 2019 11:27:47 GMT
So only people who’ve run successfully football clubs can comment , on that basis only one person in the city can in this city who has notably the retired chairman and of course there is the issue ,since he stepped back we’ve fallen apart .why some in here continue to berate him god only knows . However your principal is flawed for example mourinhio. Was never a good footballer but brilliant manager , Mcallveny never ran a football club but held very credible views , it’s simply pissed up bollocks to say if someone hasn’t done something they can’t have a credible view , But if you think are off field management are doing a good job then fine we disagree , I’ve never claimed to be an infallible or significant business presence just simply that in my considered long term held and expressed view the chief executive has failed , failed and failed , and failed again and again and many of today’s issues could be seen coming years ago They can comment, but wearing it as a badge of honour is a bit different if you've never walked the walk...... No honour just frustration as for so many and a steely determination to support the manager come What May |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 19, 2019 11:31:51 GMT
So only people who’ve run successfully football clubs can comment , on that basis only one person in the city can in this city who has notably the retired chairman and of course there is the issue ,since he stepped back we’ve fallen apart .why some in here continue to berate him god only knows . However your principal is flawed for example mourinhio. Was never a good footballer but brilliant manager , Mcallveny never ran a football club but held very credible views , it’s simply pissed up bollocks to say if someone hasn’t done something they can’t have a credible view , But if you think are off field management are doing a good job then fine we disagree , I’ve never claimed to be an infallible or significant business presence just simply that in my considered long term held and expressed view the chief executive has failed , failed and failed , and failed again and again and many of today’s issues could be seen coming years ago
You can comment benji
However, commenting is different to crticising peopole, saying people can't do their job and aren't "commercially savvy" when you literally have the square root of fuck all knowledge of what goes into running that type of business.
YOU HAVE NO CLUE AND SAYING "I'VE NEVER FAILED AT SOMETHING" does NOT in any way, shape or form then make you an expert in it....your lack of ability to use basic logic and reasoning is really fucking worrying for a grown adult to be honest benj! Seriously, it really is!
Comment on things you know fuck all about as much as you want, but you should 100% then expect people to completely dismiss and ignore your comments on the matter as you have no knowledge, let alone expertise, in it.
Really is that simple. You know absolutely no more than anyone on here when it comes to running a football club, so you have literally no counter argument of any kind of relevance when people dismiss you...because YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE FUCKING TALKING ABOUT!!!
Is that clear enough?
I never at any point said you couldn't comment...i simply said that your post in no way made any valid points whatsover as to why you were in any kind of position to criticise...it still doesn't and you're still not. I said i wondered what your backround in business was, instead of answering the question you simply gave a list of things you haven't done instead (presumably because if you DID tell everyone about your extensive business background and history of running successful football clubs, you'd probably be proving my point completely about you being fucking clueless when it comes to this particular subject...and most you tend to comment on it seems)
Very kind of you to comment and to shout but to be clear you have absolutely no idea whether I have relevant experience or not so I’d suggest the points are considered on their merit , Have management failed or not . For example name me any key performance indicator for a football club they have succeeded at over the last three years |
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Aug 19, 2019 13:06:27 GMT
You can comment benji
However, commenting is different to crticising peopole, saying people can't do their job and aren't "commercially savvy" when you literally have the square root of fuck all knowledge of what goes into running that type of business.
YOU HAVE NO CLUE AND SAYING "I'VE NEVER FAILED AT SOMETHING" does NOT in any way, shape or form then make you an expert in it....your lack of ability to use basic logic and reasoning is really fucking worrying for a grown adult to be honest benj! Seriously, it really is!
Comment on things you know fuck all about as much as you want, but you should 100% then expect people to completely dismiss and ignore your comments on the matter as you have no knowledge, let alone expertise, in it.
Really is that simple. You know absolutely no more than anyone on here when it comes to running a football club, so you have literally no counter argument of any kind of relevance when people dismiss you...because YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE FUCKING TALKING ABOUT!!!
Is that clear enough?
I never at any point said you couldn't comment...i simply said that your post in no way made any valid points whatsover as to why you were in any kind of position to criticise...it still doesn't and you're still not. I said i wondered what your backround in business was, instead of answering the question you simply gave a list of things you haven't done instead (presumably because if you DID tell everyone about your extensive business background and history of running successful football clubs, you'd probably be proving my point completely about you being fucking clueless when it comes to this particular subject...and most you tend to comment on it seems)
Very kind of you to comment and to shout but to be clear you have absolutely no idea whether I have relevant experience or not so I’d suggest the points are considered on their merit , Have management failed or not . For example name me any key performance indicator for a football club they have succeeded at over the last three years
I can't because (like you) i have no idea what KPIs the company have put in place.
All businesses have KPIs that are relevant to them. There isn't just a list of "KPIs for business" that apply across the board to every company in every industry you muppet! For instance, i have worked for 4 different companies in the industry i am emplyed, all 4 had different KPIs because as businesses they were run differently and had differing strategies...therefore their KPIs were also different.
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Post by stantheman on Aug 19, 2019 13:13:43 GMT
If ever there was a thread that has gone completely off Topic this is it
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Post by chigstoke on Aug 19, 2019 13:32:11 GMT
That's not really how making a valid point works mate i'm afraid You can't just say "Well, i've never failed at doing something i've never actually attempted in the first place, so therefore i know what i'm talking about".
I've never designed a tower block that falls after an earthquake, but that doesn't mean i suddenly know more than the architects, structural engineers and builders so can now start giving them advice on how to do it properly.
I've never built a space shuttle that blew up on take off, but that doesn't actually mean i therefore know how to build them better than NASA and can start giving them advice on how to do it properly.
Have you ever run a successful multi-million pound fotball club?
That's the only qualification you really need in order to then be able to criticise others' business acumen in that field benji....otherwise you're not really in a positon to judge as you have no real idea how they work, other than Joe Public's notion of "Well you must do x,y and z, it's that easy" which is quite simply bollocks, as if they were as easy to run as some on here think then why aren't we all doing it and raking in the cash?
In short benj mate....there is shitloads that goes into running a football club that you will have literally no clue about whatsoever, so why don't you keep your "How to be a successful billionaire football club owner" speeches for pissed up ramblings down the pub eh? The Coates family seem to know what they're doing business wise in general, so it's doubtful they'd appoint and then be happy to keep on people in senior positions who are as clueless as you (old Rockerfeller Benji) seem to think.
Do you see how it works benj? (I'm guessing you probably don't)
So only people who’ve run successfully football clubs can comment , on that basis only one person in the city can in this city who has notably the retired chairman and of course there is the issue ,since he stepped back we’ve fallen apart .why some in here continue to berate him god only knows . However your principal is flawed for example mourinhio. Was never a good footballer but brilliant manager , Mcallveny never ran a football club but held very credible views , it’s simply pissed up bollocks to say if someone hasn’t done something they can’t have a credible view , But if you think are off field management are doing a good job then fine we disagree , I’ve never claimed to be an infallible or significant business presence just simply that in my considered long term held and expressed view the chief executive has failed , failed and failed , and failed again and again and many of today’s issues could be seen coming years ago That's all well and good Benji, but what do you think of Shaqiri being unhappy at Liverpool at the moment? |
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Post by lifelong on Aug 19, 2019 13:55:37 GMT
Truth is, if he wants to play regular then he's only get it by playing in a PL mid table team. That's his level now as it was when we were such a team.
Sorry but for me never was world class.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 19, 2019 14:01:40 GMT
Very kind of you to comment and to shout but to be clear you have absolutely no idea whether I have relevant experience or not so I’d suggest the points are considered on their merit , Have management failed or not . For example name me any key performance indicator for a football club they have succeeded at over the last three years
I can't because (like you) i have no idea what KPIs the company have put in place.
All businesses have KPIs that are relevant to them. There isn't just a list of "KPIs for business" that apply across the board to every company in every industry you muppet! For instance, i have worked for 4 different companies in the industry i am emplyed, all 4 had different KPIs because as businesses they were run differently and had differing strategies...therefore their KPIs were also different.
I’d suggest Losing half of your revenue , Losing £30m a year , Losing your best assets for less than market value , falling customer base , write down of key assets , loss of status , are not considered KPI achievements in any industry in any Business on any continent |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 19, 2019 14:02:27 GMT
So only people who’ve run successfully football clubs can comment , on that basis only one person in the city can in this city who has notably the retired chairman and of course there is the issue ,since he stepped back we’ve fallen apart .why some in here continue to berate him god only knows . However your principal is flawed for example mourinhio. Was never a good footballer but brilliant manager , Mcallveny never ran a football club but held very credible views , it’s simply pissed up bollocks to say if someone hasn’t done something they can’t have a credible view , But if you think are off field management are doing a good job then fine we disagree , I’ve never claimed to be an infallible or significant business presence just simply that in my considered long term held and expressed view the chief executive has failed , failed and failed , and failed again and again and many of today’s issues could be seen coming years ago That's all well and good Benji, but what do you think of Shaqiri being unhappy at Liverpool at the moment? Couldn’t care less ‘😏👍 |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 14:05:22 GMT
Miles off I’ve never Even been to Nigeria but I do admit 1 I’ve never run a business Losing £30m + in a year 2 I’ve never run a business which has reduced its ongoing revenue by 59% per annum in year one and 70% in year two 3 I’ve never run a business which has turned £100m of shareholder loans into significantly less 4 I’ve never run a business that lost 15% if it’s customers year on year 5 I’ve never run a Business theatre paid me circa £1m a year to achieve the above and below and stayed in role 6 I’ve never run a business that’s lost it’s key asset for 50% of market value and yet can’t give away its most expensive investment acquisitions So Perhaps your right I don’t reply have the qualified insight
That's not really how making a valid point works mate i'm afraid You can't just say "Well, i've never failed at doing something i've never actually attempted in the first place, so therefore i know what i'm talking about".
I've never designed a tower block that falls after an earthquake, but that doesn't mean i suddenly know more than the architects, structural engineers and builders so can now start giving them advice on how to do it properly.
I've never built a space shuttle that blew up on take off, but that doesn't actually mean i therefore know how to build them better than NASA and can start giving them advice on how to do it properly.
Have you ever run a successful multi-million pound fotball club?
That's the only qualification you really need in order to then be able to criticise others' business acumen in that field benji....otherwise you're not really in a positon to judge as you have no real idea how they work, other than Joe Public's notion of "Well you must do x,y and z, it's that easy" which is quite simply bollocks, as if they were as easy to run as some on here think then why aren't we all doing it and raking in the cash?
In short benj mate....there is shitloads that goes into running a football club that you will have literally no clue about whatsoever, so why don't you keep your "How to be a successful billionaire football club owner" speeches for pissed up ramblings down the pub eh? The Coates family seem to know what they're doing business wise in general, so it's doubtful they'd appoint and then be happy to keep on people in senior positions who are as clueless as you (old Rockerfeller Benji) seem to think.
Do you see how it works benj? (I'm guessing you probably don't)
It does depend though doesn't it...if those "architects and structural engineers" built the tower block out of papier mache and the space shuttle blew up because they topped the good fuel up with cheap fuel that wasn't fit for purpose then you could could probably say you could do a better job solely on the basis that you're not an absolute fucking moron... |
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Post by GoBoks on Aug 19, 2019 14:10:35 GMT
Is he unique in having 2 Champions League winners medals without actually playing ? I like the concept of ‘the bench d’or’ for the least utilised multiple CL winner. Maybe the ‘Shine d’Arse’ Post of the year! |
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Post by GoBoks on Aug 19, 2019 14:15:40 GMT
It's ok benji, i'm willing to take a guess. Judging by your almost unique use of the English language, i think i know exactly what your background in business is; you're a Nigerian Prince who needs my email address in order to forward me an inheritance. Miles off I’ve never Even been to Nigeria but I do admit 1 I’ve never run a business Losing £30m + in a year 2 I’ve never run a business which has reduced its ongoing revenue by 59% per annum in year one and 70% in year two 3 I’ve never run a business which has turned £100m of shareholder loans into significantly less 4 I’ve never run a business that lost 15% if it’s customers year on year 5 I’ve never run a Business theatre paid me circa £1m a year to achieve the above and below and stayed in role 6 I’ve never run a business that’s lost it’s key asset for 50% of market value and yet can’t give away its most expensive investment acquisitions So Perhaps your right I don’t reply have the qualified insight What a superfluous bunch of words. you could have stopped at: 1 I've never run a business.  |
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Post by GoBoks on Aug 19, 2019 14:46:21 GMT
I can't because (like you) i have no idea what KPIs the company have put in place. All businesses have KPIs that are relevant to them. There isn't just a list of "KPIs for business" that apply across the board to every company in every industry you muppet! For instance, i have worked for 4 different companies in the industry i am emplyed, all 4 had different KPIs because as businesses they were run differently and had differing strategies...therefore their KPIs were also different.
I’d suggest Losing half of your revenue , Losing £30m a year , Losing your best assets for less than market value , falling customer base , write down of key assets , loss of status , are not considered KPI achievements in any industry in any Business on any continent And that depends also. Getting relegated is a disaster. Shame on the Manager and every single player who did not give his all to prevent it! However given a disastrous event that radically changed the market environment, I'd say, (but don't know, just like everyone else on here), that NOT losing more than £50m a year, NOT losing your best assets for less than 33% of market value, or NOT losing more than 50% of your custiomer base might be very reasonable KPI's given the disastrous events that have already occurred. On the other hand, it shows an abject lack of understanding to assume that companies should be expected to be shooting for growth, profit, etc, in every circumstance. Sometimes consolidation and regrouping is necessary before progress to better goals can be realistically expected. |
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Post by Admin on Aug 19, 2019 15:22:32 GMT
That's all well and good Benji, but what do you think of Shaqiri being unhappy at Liverpool at the moment? Couldn’t care less ‘😏👍 You obviously care enough to spam the thread and send it way off topic. |
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Post by Dr Hesham on Aug 20, 2019 0:56:27 GMT
Calm down guys, you can consider Shaqiri is happy |
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Post by GoBoks on Aug 20, 2019 15:58:52 GMT
Calm down guys, you can consider Shaqiri is happy  Let's settle on Happier (than he would have been if he'd been forced to stay) |
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Post by stokiesteve on Aug 20, 2019 18:26:22 GMT
Dear Doctor I'm not sure that you fully understand just how far we have regressed. Thanks I sadly understand the situation but he can be the best player in championship. Yes mate It’s a natural step, Champions league winner to arguably the best player in the Cgampionshit 😂 |
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Post by owdestokie2 on Aug 20, 2019 18:38:22 GMT
In response to the title of the post........Who gives a shit?
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Post by iglugluk on Aug 20, 2019 19:21:33 GMT
Dear Doctor I'm not sure that you fully understand just how far we have regressed. Thanks I sadly understand the situation but he can be the best player in championship. Your on a wind-up., Yes?.. you simply have to be Who cares about Shaq any more anyway tbh |
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Post by drfootball on Aug 24, 2019 12:16:10 GMT
Is he unique in having 2 Champions League winners medals without actually playing ? He started and played almost the entirety of the semi final in which they beat Barca 4-0. He earned his 2nd medal. That wasn't was I asked. |
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) may be contentious but he/she is unique in that when the monkey dust wears off he/she can actually talk (some) commonsense. If you can interprete his affectations, that is. In a strange way he reminds me of Musik. 
You can't just say "Well, i've never failed at doing something i've never actually attempted in the first place, so therefore i know what i'm talking about". 
