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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 7, 2019 7:07:11 GMT
Almost certainly nothing in it - but Izzy Brown is a strange link. Isn't he a Number 10-type? We know him. Hes on an eye watering amount of money at Chelsea despite never playing and has been injured for pretty much the whole of the last 2 seasons whilst out on loan.
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Post by torquaypotter on Aug 7, 2019 7:16:51 GMT
Please, what a number 10 player is, I`m from the 60/70s era, Where we had wingers, full-backs, inside forwards !!!!!!
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Post by sasfan on Aug 7, 2019 7:31:42 GMT
I know a bloke who is fairly ITK at Villa and says that Hogan can be trouble in the dressing room and best avoided...... Personally I would avoid him from the ‘he’s not very good’ angle too.
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 7, 2019 7:34:03 GMT
I know a bloke who is fairly ITK at Villa and says that Hogan can be trouble in the dressing room and best avoided...... Personally I would avoid him from the ‘he’s not very good’ angle too. If your mate knows that then I would say there is a good chance the club would know that!
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Aug 7, 2019 7:34:20 GMT
Please, what a number 10 player is, I`m from the 60/70s era, Where we had wingers, full-backs, inside forwards !!!!!! Pretty sure Zico, Pele Maradona et al. played in the 60s/70s......it's a playmaker role, usually taken up in advanced central midfield.
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Post by sasfan on Aug 7, 2019 7:37:05 GMT
I know a bloke who is fairly ITK at Villa and says that Hogan can be trouble in the dressing room and best avoided...... Personally I would avoid him from the ‘he’s not very good’ angle too. If your mate knows that then I would say there is a good chance the club would know that! You would hope so, but history tells us that wouldn’t necessarily stop them from making a bad decision!!
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Post by Beloved Monkfish on Aug 7, 2019 7:48:41 GMT
Please, what a number 10 player is, I`m from the 60/70s era, Where we had wingers, full-backs, inside forwards !!!!!! Have you been in a coma for 50 years?
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Post by berahinosgoals on Aug 7, 2019 7:53:31 GMT
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Post by cousindupree on Aug 7, 2019 8:05:11 GMT
Still you’ve got to ask why. And then the season he barely played, they go up. Coincidence I know but still amusing. Well Villa clearly realised taht he wasn't anywhere near prolific to get them into the playoffs so they astutely went for Abrahams on loan....25 goals later they are back in the top flight. Whereas our esteemed manager and recruitment team think otherwise. I guess we wait and see if he turns out to be Hero Hogan (a tip to the tv series) or filed along with so many of our strikers in the pack marked dud.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Aug 7, 2019 8:07:43 GMT
Believed to be on 40/45k a week at villa and rumours a loan would see villa paying 50% of his wages
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Post by Block 22 on Aug 7, 2019 8:13:14 GMT
It’s all an attempt to push the Gayle fee down slightly..
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 7, 2019 8:26:56 GMT
Gregg Evans 22m ago Good morning. Here's a brief outline of Aston Villa's transfer plans in the remaining hours of window. So, as many of you who follow me on Twitter would have seen late last night - Douglas Luiz, the Brazilian midfielder is close to completing his £15m move from Manchester City. He's been in his homeland for the past week but is now on the way to the UK and will link up with his team-mates either later today or tomorrow. The striker search is also picking up pace. Villa had been checking out a French forward but I'll provide some more details on that later if there's any progression. One player who will not be moving to the Midlands, though, is Galatasaray goal-getter Mbaye Diagne. Ignore the links. They're not true. As for Saïd Benrahma, the Brentford attacker, there could be some movement later in the day. If Villa get a breakthrough, I'll let you know. Elsewhere, Scott Hogan is closing in on a loan move to Stoke City as I reported yesterday. Villa will listen to offers for Birkir Bjarnason, the Icelandic midfielder, too. And I'd expect goalkeeper Lovre Kalinic to secure a move away before close of play tomorrow. Villa can't keep four goalkeepers happy until January, that's for sure!
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 7, 2019 8:39:38 GMT
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Post by pabloavfc on Aug 7, 2019 8:40:01 GMT
Hi there. Villa fan here and thought i'd sign up to give some info on Hogan.
He was on the verge of joining west ham but they pulled out with 2 days to go in the january window, i believe we signed him without any thought as we were panicking about not going straight back up.
For a long time villa fans made excuses for him. His movement was world class, he needs service, bruce tactics don't help him. Yet as time went on all of these started to disappear. Kodjia, Grabban and Abraham were all able to score goals for us, Hogan has never looked like doing it.
He is pretty fast, nothing amazing, and will work hard. That's where it ends. If you look at detailed stats, he barely touches the ball in games. He really struggles to get involved. Again, if you look at stats, his passing is woeful. His first touch is poor and he is not a forward who will link up play well. His finishing has been average to poor at villa, his one short spell of scoring at Brentford is starting to look more and more of a one off.
Sheff utd had him on loan and went up and with that extra money had no interest in signing him.
His one good spell came under Dean Smith at Brentford and when Dean Smith became manager, he loaned him out 2 months later and clearly has no interest keeping him. That speaks volumes to me.
He needs to play on a regular basis and maybe something will click and it works out for you guys but in all honesty that's based on just blind hope at this point.
He is on big wages so if the rumours of you paying 50% are true you will be forking out around £25,000 a week on him.
I wish him luck, he tries hard and seems a decent guy. Its not his fault we paid so much and he isn't good enough.
Anyway good luck for the season, just thought i'd share some info.
Oh also pretty gutted we didn't get butland.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Aug 7, 2019 8:42:20 GMT
Hi there. Villa fan here and thought i'd sign up to give some info on Hogan. He was on the verge of joining west ham but they pulled out with 2 days to go in the january window, i believe we signed him without any thought as we were panicking about not going straight back up. For a long time villa fans made excuses for him. His movement was world class, he needs service, bruce tactics don't help him. Yet as time went on all of these started to disappear. Kodjia, Grabban and Abraham were all able to score goals for us, Hogan has never looked like doing it. He is pretty fast, nothing amazing, and will work hard. That's where it ends. If you look at detailed stats, he barely touches the ball in games. He really struggles to get involved. Again, if you look at stats, his passing is woeful. His first touch is poor and he is not a forward who will link up play well. His finishing has been average to poor at villa, his one short spell of scoring at Brentford is starting to look more and more of a one off. Sheff utd had him on loan and went up and with that extra money had no interest in signing him. His one good spell came under Dean Smith at Brentford and when Dean Smith became manager, he loaned him out 2 months later and clearly has no interest keeping him. That speaks volumes to me. He needs to play on a regular basis and maybe something will click and it works out for you guys but in all honesty that's based on just blind hope at this point. He is on big wages so if the rumours of you paying 50% are true you will be forking out around £25,000 a week on him. I wish him luck, he tries hard and seems a decent guy. Its not his fault we paid so much and he isn't good enough. Anyway good luck for the season, just thought i'd share some info. Oh also pretty gutted we didn't get butland. So are we, I think.
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Post by chuckrocky on Aug 7, 2019 8:42:48 GMT
Hi there. Villa fan here and thought i'd sign up to give some info on Hogan. He was on the verge of joining west ham but they pulled out with 2 days to go in the january window, i believe we signed him without any thought as we were panicking about not going straight back up. For a long time villa fans made excuses for him. His movement was world class, he needs service, bruce tactics don't help him. Yet as time went on all of these started to disappear. Kodjia, Grabban and Abraham were all able to score goals for us, Hogan has never looked like doing it. He is pretty fast, nothing amazing, and will work hard. That's where it ends. If you look at detailed stats, he barely touches the ball in games. He really struggles to get involved. Again, if you look at stats, his passing is woeful. His first touch is poor and he is not a forward who will link up play well. His finishing has been average to poor at villa, his one short spell of scoring at Brentford is starting to look more and more of a one off. Sheff utd had him on loan and went up and with that extra money had no interest in signing him. His one good spell came under Dean Smith at Brentford and when Dean Smith became manager, he loaned him out 2 months later and clearly has no interest keeping him. That speaks volumes to me. He needs to play on a regular basis and maybe something will click and it works out for you guys but in all honesty that's based on just blind hope at this point. He is on big wages so if the rumours of you paying 50% are true you will be forking out around £25,000 a week on him. I wish him luck, he tries hard and seems a decent guy. Its not his fault we paid so much and he isn't good enough. Anyway good luck for the season, just thought i'd share some info. Oh also pretty gutted we didn't get butland. We’re also pretty gutted you didn’t get Butland.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2019 8:45:01 GMT
Hi there. Villa fan here and thought i'd sign up to give some info on Hogan. He was on the verge of joining west ham but they pulled out with 2 days to go in the january window, i believe we signed him without any thought as we were panicking about not going straight back up. For a long time villa fans made excuses for him. His movement was world class, he needs service, bruce tactics don't help him. Yet as time went on all of these started to disappear. Kodjia, Grabban and Abraham were all able to score goals for us, Hogan has never looked like doing it. He is pretty fast, nothing amazing, and will work hard. That's where it ends. If you look at detailed stats, he barely touches the ball in games. He really struggles to get involved. Again, if you look at stats, his passing is woeful. His first touch is poor and he is not a forward who will link up play well. His finishing has been average to poor at villa, his one short spell of scoring at Brentford is starting to look more and more of a one off. Sheff utd had him on loan and went up and with that extra money had no interest in signing him. His one good spell came under Dean Smith at Brentford and when Dean Smith became manager, he loaned him out 2 months later and clearly has no interest keeping him. That speaks volumes to me. He needs to play on a regular basis and maybe something will click and it works out for you guys but in all honesty that's based on just blind hope at this point. He is on big wages so if the rumours of you paying 50% are true you will be forking out around £25,000 a week on him. I wish him luck, he tries hard and seems a decent guy. Its not his fault we paid so much and he isn't good enough. Anyway good luck for the season, just thought i'd share some info. Oh also pretty gutted we didn't get butland. Otherwise ok?
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Post by pabloavfc on Aug 7, 2019 8:45:04 GMT
Really? Thought Butland was still highly thought of there.
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Post by shrewspotter on Aug 7, 2019 8:45:56 GMT
Hi there. Villa fan here and thought i'd sign up to give some info on Hogan. He was on the verge of joining west ham but they pulled out with 2 days to go in the january window, i believe we signed him without any thought as we were panicking about not going straight back up. For a long time villa fans made excuses for him. His movement was world class, he needs service, bruce tactics don't help him. Yet as time went on all of these started to disappear. Kodjia, Grabban and Abraham were all able to score goals for us, Hogan has never looked like doing it. He is pretty fast, nothing amazing, and will work hard. That's where it ends. If you look at detailed stats, he barely touches the ball in games. He really struggles to get involved. Again, if you look at stats, his passing is woeful. His first touch is poor and he is not a forward who will link up play well. His finishing has been average to poor at villa, his one short spell of scoring at Brentford is starting to look more and more of a one off. Sheff utd had him on loan and went up and with that extra money had no interest in signing him. His one good spell came under Dean Smith at Brentford and when Dean Smith became manager, he loaned him out 2 months later and clearly has no interest keeping him. That speaks volumes to me. He needs to play on a regular basis and maybe something will click and it works out for you guys but in all honesty that's based on just blind hope at this point. He is on big wages so if the rumours of you paying 50% are true you will be forking out around £25,000 a week on him. I wish him luck, he tries hard and seems a decent guy. Its not his fault we paid so much and he isn't good enough. Anyway good luck for the season, just thought i'd share some info. Oh also pretty gutted we didn't get butland. cheers for the insight Pablo. Looks like Hogan will fit right in!!! Good luck too for the season, certainly hope you finish above the Dingles and enjoy your premier league return Ps- your fans were class at the Stoke-Villa game which was the Gordon Banks memorial
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Post by shrewspotter on Aug 7, 2019 8:46:36 GMT
Really? Thought Butland was still highly thought of there. he is top drawer mate
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Aug 7, 2019 8:47:14 GMT
Really? Thought Butland was still highly thought of there. He is (dreadful mistake at the weekend aside) but we desperately need the money because we are up to our eyes in deadwood wages contributing to our FFP limits preventing business. Butland is about the one good player we have who would go for good money but who is also a little bit expendable and accommodations were made for his departure.
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Post by pavel on Aug 7, 2019 8:48:45 GMT
It'd be nice to think we were at least open to looking at Germany, France, Holland or indeed anywhere outside the bottom 3 leagues of England. I don’t think he is interested in the foreign market or young prem players on loan and he appears to have put himself in a straight jacket player recruitment wise. Quite worryingly really.
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Post by str8outtahampton on Aug 7, 2019 8:50:10 GMT
Please, what a number 10 player is, I`m from the 60/70s era, Where we had wingers, full-backs, inside forwards !!!!!! Attacking, creative, advanced midfielder as others have noted. Who scores goals, ideally. At least that's my understanding. Inside forward to you and me. Jimmy McIlroy might be a good example. Especially in his Burnley days.
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Post by pavel on Aug 7, 2019 8:50:58 GMT
Villa fans think this guy is on a par with Percy. Recently moved to the Athletic from the Brum Mail. It's definitely happening! Which would suggest Gayle is dead and quite possibly Campbell to go out on loan? 😟 Hey, thanks for spoiling my morning, I’m on holiday!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 7, 2019 8:51:03 GMT
Really? Thought Butland was still highly thought of there. He is (dreadful mistake at the weekend aside) but we desperately need the money because we are up to our eyes in deadwood wages contributing to our FFP limits preventing business. Butland is about the one good player we have who would go for good money but who is also a little bit expendable and accommodations were made for his departure. He won’t go for good money as we’ve seen! Why? Because he’s an average Championship goalie who isn’t as good as he thinks he is.
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Post by potterpaul on Aug 7, 2019 8:51:53 GMT
Hi there. Villa fan here and thought i'd sign up to give some info on Hogan. He was on the verge of joining west ham but they pulled out with 2 days to go in the january window, i believe we signed him without any thought as we were panicking about not going straight back up. For a long time villa fans made excuses for him. His movement was world class, he needs service, bruce tactics don't help him. Yet as time went on all of these started to disappear. Kodjia, Grabban and Abraham were all able to score goals for us, Hogan has never looked like doing it. He is pretty fast, nothing amazing, and will work hard. That's where it ends. If you look at detailed stats, he barely touches the ball in games. He really struggles to get involved. Again, if you look at stats, his passing is woeful. His first touch is poor and he is not a forward who will link up play well. His finishing has been average to poor at villa, his one short spell of scoring at Brentford is starting to look more and more of a one off. Sheff utd had him on loan and went up and with that extra money had no interest in signing him. His one good spell came under Dean Smith at Brentford and when Dean Smith became manager, he loaned him out 2 months later and clearly has no interest keeping him. That speaks volumes to me. He needs to play on a regular basis and maybe something will click and it works out for you guys but in all honesty that's based on just blind hope at this point. He is on big wages so if the rumours of you paying 50% are true you will be forking out around £25,000 a week on him. I wish him luck, he tries hard and seems a decent guy. Its not his fault we paid so much and he isn't good enough. Anyway good luck for the season, just thought i'd share some info. Oh also pretty gutted we didn't get butland. That 3rd paragraph is exactly what happens here with Allen
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Aug 7, 2019 8:53:40 GMT
It’s all an attempt to push the Gayle fee down slightly.. Is that coz the Connor Wickham ruse didn’t convince Newcastle 🤣
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Aug 7, 2019 8:56:23 GMT
He is (dreadful mistake at the weekend aside) but we desperately need the money because we are up to our eyes in deadwood wages contributing to our FFP limits preventing business. Butland is about the one good player we have who would go for good money but who is also a little bit expendable and accommodations were made for his departure. He won’t go for good money as we’ve seen! Why? Because he’s an average Championship goalie who isn’t as good as he thinks he is. Do we know what Villa offered, or were intending to offer? We wanted 20-25 million to account for his 20% profit sell clause.
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Post by str8outtahampton on Aug 7, 2019 8:57:51 GMT
Hi there. Villa fan here and thought i'd sign up to give some info on Hogan. He was on the verge of joining west ham but they pulled out with 2 days to go in the january window, i believe we signed him without any thought as we were panicking about not going straight back up. For a long time villa fans made excuses for him. His movement was world class, he needs service, bruce tactics don't help him. Yet as time went on all of these started to disappear. Kodjia, Grabban and Abraham were all able to score goals for us, Hogan has never looked like doing it. He is pretty fast, nothing amazing, and will work hard. That's where it ends. If you look at detailed stats, he barely touches the ball in games. He really struggles to get involved. Again, if you look at stats, his passing is woeful. His first touch is poor and he is not a forward who will link up play well. His finishing has been average to poor at villa, his one short spell of scoring at Brentford is starting to look more and more of a one off. Sheff utd had him on loan and went up and with that extra money had no interest in signing him. His one good spell came under Dean Smith at Brentford and when Dean Smith became manager, he loaned him out 2 months later and clearly has no interest keeping him. That speaks volumes to me. He needs to play on a regular basis and maybe something will click and it works out for you guys but in all honesty that's based on just blind hope at this point. He is on big wages so if the rumours of you paying 50% are true you will be forking out around £25,000 a week on him. I wish him luck, he tries hard and seems a decent guy. Its not his fault we paid so much and he isn't good enough. Anyway good luck for the season, just thought i'd share some info. Oh also pretty gutted we didn't get butland. If you're free, there might be a recruitment job available for you at SCFC.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Aug 7, 2019 8:58:00 GMT
What a pointless signing this would be. Typical of the club at the moment
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