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Post by chigstoke on Aug 6, 2019 21:10:34 GMT
Half wages and small loan fee (if true) makes it sound a bit better. I do hope he has a stormer of a season but I'm so fucking depressed okover Stoke now that I instantly expect him to be complete shit. What is the point of this signing? I'd rather we give Campbell a chance. Hogan has had one good season. One. An they all look like close range goals, I'm not seeing the pace and physicality we are missing. [br Same here mate, I'd rather Campbell the chance. It's now uber clear to see that Jones if signing Hogan doesn't want to give Tyrese the chance. He'll go on loan and we'll be fucked off with him again. If we sign another CB as well and then loan Collins and Campbell, I am going to be one extremely angry human being. I will make Adolf Hitler look like the patron saint of world peace.
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Post by wrexhamstokie90 on Aug 6, 2019 21:11:32 GMT
I think he could be a good signing he’s a workhorse up front an he’s miles better than Benik can’t control a ball Afobe... hogan will be top scorer for stoke if he signs No issue if he replaces Afobe but it he replaces Campbell I do. I agree make more sense get rid of Afobe keep Campbell’s much needed pace
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Post by wammy on Aug 6, 2019 21:11:44 GMT
Just looking, he was at Halifax the same time as Gregory and vardy were banging the goals in. Albeit hogan had 0 goals in 15 at the time.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Aug 6, 2019 21:12:14 GMT
Would also add that Gregory has a better recent record than him so I’d like to see him get his chance before pinning our hopes on Hogan. I’m not saying that will be the case and we certainly need options up top but it’s just another striker, it’s not really a statement of any sort.
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Post by stokest5 on Aug 6, 2019 21:12:39 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 6, 2019 21:12:50 GMT
Let’s think about the time we signed Mark Stein,a player going absolutely nowhere and look how that turned out.Nobody knows how loans turn out so let’s hope this one is successful
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Post by andystokey on Aug 6, 2019 21:13:01 GMT
Jesus wept what is the point of this if true? Just why?
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Post by sheriffofrockridge on Aug 6, 2019 21:14:51 GMT
In fairness, he looks pretty good. Mind you, so did Brek Shea. Steady! Brek didn't even look threatening holding a shotgun!
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Post by chigstoke on Aug 6, 2019 21:14:58 GMT
Would also add that Gregory has a better recent record than him so I’d like to see him get his chance before pinning our hopes on Hogan. I’m not saying that will be the case and we certainly need options up top but it’s just another striker, it’s not really a statement of any sort. Wonder if he sees a Hogan - Vokes or Hogan - Gregory front two then as the option? It'll still be the crappy diamond but lord knows we need to remove Afobe from the equation. Personally if we're going 4-1-2-1-2 Narrow again I'd want Hogan - Gregory if Campbell goes on loan.
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Post by stokesupporter on Aug 6, 2019 21:15:17 GMT
Tyrese Campbell has yet to score in the Championship so I kind of understand Jones's decision to take player like Hogan on loan.
Campbell should definitely have his chance though and hopefully he'll get it.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Aug 6, 2019 21:15:33 GMT
In fairness, he looks pretty good. Mind you, so did Brek Shea. Isn’t that romain sawyers in those videos? No wonder he scored goals.
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Post by chuckrocky on Aug 6, 2019 21:16:19 GMT
Bearing in mind that every striker we’ve signed since Beattie in 2010 has been absolutely wank, I’ll reserve my judgment on this one.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 6, 2019 21:16:31 GMT
Pretty sure that hot spell at Brentford came after his very lengthy cruciate lay-off? Yes he got injured as soon as he signed for Brentford came back,did his cruciate which is why he didn't play much for them considering how long he was there....and I think he's had more injuries since. So, he's injury prone,has an awful recent scoring record and can't score penalties, he'll fit in perfectly Yeah. Seems to have had a nasty groin injury at the start of last season at Villa, then struggled to make any impression after that. But there didn't seem to be any more injuries at least. Not blown away by this one, but if it means no Afobe, I'll see the glass as half full. If he's got pace, that's something. And anyone who's had a run of 21 in 27 in this league must have something.
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Post by royalewithcheese on Aug 6, 2019 21:19:26 GMT
Can he run fast? If so, and his signature keeps Afobe out of the team, then I'm all for it.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Aug 6, 2019 21:20:26 GMT
Would also add that Gregory has a better recent record than him so I’d like to see him get his chance before pinning our hopes on Hogan. I’m not saying that will be the case and we certainly need options up top but it’s just another striker, it’s not really a statement of any sort. Wonder if he sees a Hogan - Vokes or Hogan - Gregory front two then as the option? It'll still be the crappy diamond but lord knows we need to remove Afobe from the equation. Personally if we're going 4-1-2-1-2 Narrow again I'd want Hogan - Gregory if Campbell goes on loan. There are certainly options there and I’m sure two of them in some combination would make a decent partnership. For the money spent I think it’s Vokes plus AN other for now. I’d like to see it be Gregory after Saturday in all honesty.
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Post by thehoof on Aug 6, 2019 21:21:43 GMT
Tyrese Campbell has yet to score in the Championship so I kind of understand Jones's decision to take player like Hogan on loan. Campbell should definitely have his chance though and hopefully he'll get it. It’s a truism- but you won’t score in the Championship if you are on loan to a division 1 club. I’ve seen enough of Afobe to know he will not become a serious goal scorer at Stoke, and Vokes looked totally out of form against QPR- if we are not putting crosses into the box, Vokes won’t score 6. Give Campbell the same opportunities and then we will know.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Aug 6, 2019 21:22:00 GMT
Can he run fast? If so, and his signature keeps Afobe out of the team, then I'm all for it. Is that Bayern when he gets a like?
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Post by berahinosgoals on Aug 6, 2019 21:24:15 GMT
Bearing in mind that every striker we’ve signed since Beattie in 2010 has been absolutely wank, I’ll reserve my judgment on this one. Crouch signed in 2011 but even still we are long overdue a good one
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Post by royalewithcheese on Aug 6, 2019 21:24:41 GMT
Yes he got injured as soon as he signed for Brentford came back,did his cruciate which is why he didn't play much for them considering how long he was there....and I think he's had more injuries since. So, he's injury prone,has an awful recent scoring record and can't score penalties, he'll fit in perfectly Yeah. Seems to have had a nasty groin injury at the start of last season at Villa, then struggled to make any impression after that. But there didn't seem to be any more injuries at least. Not blown away by this one, but if it means no Afobe, I'll see the glass as half full. If he's got pace, that's something. And anyone who's had a run of 21 in 27 in this league must have something. 21 in 27 for Woodley Sports too. Definite pedigree.
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Post by sheriffofrockridge on Aug 6, 2019 21:25:34 GMT
I've changed my mind already.
He looks rapid, he can finish and can perform well in red and white stripes.
Then again these videos don't show you the 1200 chances he missed that season.
What's also apparent is that Brentford didn't have our wonderfully creative midfield.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 6, 2019 21:25:53 GMT
Yes he got injured as soon as he signed for Brentford came back,did his cruciate which is why he didn't play much for them considering how long he was there....and I think he's had more injuries since. So, he's injury prone,has an awful recent scoring record and can't score penalties, he'll fit in perfectly Yeah. Seems to have had a nasty groin injury at the start of last season at Villa, then struggled to make any impression after that. But there didn't seem to be any more injuries at least. Not blown away by this one, but if it means no Afobe, I'll see the glass as half full. If he's got pace, that's something. And anyone who's had a run of 21 in 27 in this league must have something. But do you think it WILL mean no Afobe? I don't.
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Post by Block 22 on Aug 6, 2019 21:26:20 GMT
Bollocks signing.
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Post by chigstoke on Aug 6, 2019 21:26:23 GMT
Wonder if he sees a Hogan - Vokes or Hogan - Gregory front two then as the option? It'll still be the crappy diamond but lord knows we need to remove Afobe from the equation. Personally if we're going 4-1-2-1-2 Narrow again I'd want Hogan - Gregory if Campbell goes on loan. There are certainly options there and I’m sure two of them in some combination would make a decent partnership. For the money spent I think it’s Vokes plus AN other for now. I’d like to see it be Gregory after Saturday in all honesty. Gregory looked good when he came on. Did more in his cameo than Vokes or Afobe did all game which is terrifying really.
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Post by melbournestokie21 on Aug 6, 2019 21:27:33 GMT
We should be asking what kind of system he played in at Villa vs the one he played at Brentford and compare it to ours.
Id say itd go along way to explaining the lack of goals somewhat.
Under TP we couldve had Messi up top having balls knocked up to him constantly, id dare say hed score less with us then he would playing for Barca.
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Post by stokemark on Aug 6, 2019 21:27:45 GMT
Well we really do seem to be going full on lower half Championship don’t we
It still less than 2 yeas since we beat Arsenal - how fast have we fallen 😭😭😭
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Post by andystokey on Aug 6, 2019 21:28:01 GMT
Yeah. Seems to have had a nasty groin injury at the start of last season at Villa, then struggled to make any impression after that. But there didn't seem to be any more injuries at least. Not blown away by this one, but if it means no Afobe, I'll see the glass as half full. If he's got pace, that's something. And anyone who's had a run of 21 in 27 in this league must have something. 21 in 27 for Woodley Sports too. Definite pedigree. All this talk of Pedigree and glass half full is making me thirsty.
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Post by stokesupporter on Aug 6, 2019 21:28:14 GMT
Tyrese Campbell has yet to score in the Championship so I kind of understand Jones's decision to take player like Hogan on loan. Campbell should definitely have his chance though and hopefully he'll get it. It’s a truism- but you won’t score in the Championship if you are on loan to a division 1 club. I’ve seen enough of Afobe to know he will not become a serious goal scorer at Stoke, and Vokes looked totally out of form against QPR- if we are not putting crosses into the box, Vokes won’t score 6. Give Campbell the same opportunities and then we will know. True that. We don't know until he is given a real go. Then again we don't know if he'd hit it off in the Champioship so we need options.. it would be stupid pin all hopes on a player who is basicly still a rookie at this level.
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Post by chuckrocky on Aug 6, 2019 21:29:14 GMT
Bearing in mind that every striker we’ve signed since Beattie in 2010 has been absolutely wank, I’ll reserve my judgment on this one. Crouch signed in 2011 but even still we are long overdue a good one That’s true, I would put Crouch firmly in the ‘meh’ category.
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Post by xchpotter on Aug 6, 2019 21:30:41 GMT
The video collection looks good, but then so does any other players. What strikes me from it though is that we can’t pass two fuckin yards without giving it to the opposition or one of ours mis controlling, so heaven knows how we would find him as he seems to thrive on canny passes. Hope it works out, but our team is a million miles away from giving him that type of service.
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Post by callas12 on Aug 6, 2019 21:33:01 GMT
Let’s think about the time we signed Mark Stein,a player going absolutely nowhere and look how that turned out.Nobody knows how loans turn out so let’s hope this one is successful My thoughts exactly
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