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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2019 3:56:18 GMT
I see the Sun’s transfer algorithm has picked us...
(*select random club) interested in (*pick random player) for (lookup_*random player,-*transfermrketvalue)
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Post by clarkeda on Jun 24, 2019 5:51:33 GMT
Not a priority - but who plays there if Edwards is banned/injured. I'm assuming Bauer is one we definitely want to get rid of..... A player that can cover left and right back. He’d come expecting to play. Jones converted Justin from RB to LB why couldn’t he do the same here?
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Post by robwahlmann on Jun 24, 2019 7:35:55 GMT
A player that can cover left and right back. He’d come expecting to play. Jones converted Justin from RB to LB why couldn’t he do the same here? I don't know how much we can trust FIFA, but according to that he seems very two footed. Gets the same score both at left and right back and the same goes for the wing back positions too. Looks a very decent player from those numbers.
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Post by LankyPotter on Jun 24, 2019 8:08:20 GMT
Good competition for Edwards. Also has the attributes that NJ wants in a fullback (clever timing of runs, good delivery etc). Been promoted from this level as captain. Good business at that price.
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Post by robwahlmann on Jun 24, 2019 8:16:05 GMT
Good competition for Edwards. Also has the attributes that NJ wants in a fullback (clever timing of runs, good delivery etc). Been promoted from this level as captain. Good business at that price. He also has top flight experience, something Justin lacks. If we can get him for around £2.5M it certainly looks a good deal on paper, but I haven't seen him play that much to be honest.
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Post by neddy on Jun 24, 2019 8:21:37 GMT
I really hope these lower league players work as they have for other teams.......all players start somewhere but it does not universally work does it........Tony Ellis Chris Greenacre anyone?
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Post by LGH87 on Jun 24, 2019 8:23:47 GMT
I really hope these lower league players work as they have for other teams.......all players start somewhere but it does not universally work does it........Tony Ellis Chris Greenacre anyone? We’re talking about a player who played a level above us last season
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 24, 2019 8:25:09 GMT
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Post by neddy on Jun 24, 2019 8:28:51 GMT
I really hope these lower league players work as they have for other teams.......all players start somewhere but it does not universally work does it........Tony Ellis Chris Greenacre anyone? We’re talking about a player who played a level above us last season Apologies I meant some of the others mentioned at lower league level...
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Post by themistocles on Jun 24, 2019 8:29:27 GMT
Would he want to come here and sit on the bench?
Edwards has to be first choice
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Post by silverdollar on Jun 24, 2019 8:31:36 GMT
Not a priority - but who plays there if Edwards is banned/injured. I'm assuming Bauer is one we definitely want to get rid of..... A player that can cover left and right back. He’d come expecting to play. Doesn't any player arrive at a club with the ambition and desire to play. I take these snippets in the paper with a pinch of salt. I have no doubts that Jones knows where our weaknesses lie and that certainly includes left back.
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Post by LankyPotter on Jun 24, 2019 8:34:42 GMT
Good competition for Edwards. Also has the attributes that NJ wants in a fullback (clever timing of runs, good delivery etc). Been promoted from this level as captain. Good business at that price. He also has top flight experience, something Justin lacks. If we can get him for around £2.5M it certainly looks a good deal on paper, but I haven't seen him play that much to be honest. Justin is an out and out right or left back though, Smith certainly isn’t being signed as a left back.
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Post by LGH87 on Jun 24, 2019 8:47:49 GMT
Are we possibly ignoring the fact that Jones might feel he can perform the Justin trick on Edwards and convert him to a left back?
I hope to god that isn’t the case mind.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jun 24, 2019 8:48:10 GMT
You're saying he's too good? No. Edwards is the right back. We don’t need another one who thinks he should be starting. We need a left back. And someone who ideally can cover both. We don’t need 2 right backs who both expect to play 46 games this season. Edwards is the right back? Does Jones know? I think he should be told....
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Post by robwahlmann on Jun 24, 2019 8:48:35 GMT
He also has top flight experience, something Justin lacks. If we can get him for around £2.5M it certainly looks a good deal on paper, but I haven't seen him play that much to be honest. Justin is an out and out right or left back though, Smith certainly isn’t being signed as a left back. You might be right as I've only been checking his numbers on FIFA19, but they look promising though.
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Post by juiceandbits on Jun 24, 2019 8:52:33 GMT
Seems a weird one because of Edwards and he doesn't play legit? O'Rourke's usually decent re reliability too though.
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Post by datguy on Jun 24, 2019 8:59:04 GMT
Does our scouting just go as far as the leaked Celtic targets or something?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2019 9:04:16 GMT
Seems a weird one because of Edwards and he doesn't play legit? O'Rourke's usually decent re reliability too though. Edwards has picked up a few injuries in his fleeting career to date hasn't he? That's not a backhanded accusation of being injury prone, and it's probably more to do with the rapid albeit stop start introduction to the first team. He'll probably grow out of the little niggles as he gets older and wiser. In the meantime though, we could use some quality back up / competition as that process happens. Bauer isn't that. If we are to produce a promotion winning squad then you need serious competition in all areas, particularly key areas of your managers favoured system. Just two attacking left backs to go, unless McClean is classed as a backup...
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Post by tony1234 on Jun 24, 2019 9:07:32 GMT
Can't we true. We have two right backs. Its a left back we need Another right back it is then.
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Post by tony1234 on Jun 24, 2019 9:09:27 GMT
I really hope these lower league players work as they have for other teams.......all players start somewhere but it does not universally work does it........Tony Ellis Chris Greenacre anyone? League position correlates very strongly to wages paid. ‘You get what you pay for ‘ is the norm. This guy look fine that said apart from the obvious glaring question of “why?”. Are we expecting someone to offer for Tom? If I was a newly promoted club or Burnley, seton etc, he’d be a good option.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jun 24, 2019 9:09:36 GMT
Makes sense, Jones has publicly said he wants players with experience of promotions on their CV and Smith has that.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Jun 24, 2019 9:18:01 GMT
We really don’t need another right back. We definitely do. If Pieters and Bauer go as expected, we have one full back and he is inexperienced and had an up and down season and we dont know ho he wil do in a diamond formation- Brentford away didnt augur well.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 24, 2019 9:32:28 GMT
A player that can cover left and right back. He’d come expecting to play. Jones converted Justin from RB to LB why couldn’t he do the same here? Because it's a daft idea.
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Post by juiceandbits on Jun 24, 2019 9:33:04 GMT
Seems a weird one because of Edwards and he doesn't play legit? O'Rourke's usually decent re reliability too though. Edwards has picked up a few injuries in his fleeting career to date hasn't he? That's not a backhanded accusation of being injury prone, and it's probably more to do with the rapid albeit stop start introduction to the first team. He'll probably grow out of the little niggles as he gets older and wiser. In the meantime though, we could use some quality back up / competition as that process happens. Bauer isn't that. If we are to produce a promotion winning squad then you need serious competition in all areas, particularly key areas of your managers favoured system. Just two attacking left backs to go, unless McClean is classed as a backup... Yeah I don't disagree with that; at his age - the prime of career - it seems odd he'd come as a backup. I guess thought over the amount of game we're gonna have he'll play his fair share. And yeah Edwards has had niggles and it's important to protect him when we can. Re left backs I can absolutely see that being the way he goes.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 24, 2019 9:33:20 GMT
We really don’t need another right back. We definitely do. If Pieters and Bauer go as expected, we have one full back and he is inexperienced and had an up and down season and we dont know ho he wil do in a diamond formation- Brentford away didnt augur well. Edwards was fine all season. We need to sign 2 full backs, one of them doesn't need to be a right back only like Smith is.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 24, 2019 9:35:30 GMT
We definitely do. If Pieters and Bauer go as expected, we have one full back and he is inexperienced and had an up and down season and we dont know ho he wil do in a diamond formation- Brentford away didnt augur well. Edwards was fine all season. We need to sign 2 full backs, one of them doesn't need to be a right back only like Smith is. But finding these competent/good versatile players is easier said than done. Justin is very unusual in that regard. If, for example, Edwards broke his leg on the opening day, what would we do? Left-backs (or midfielders) who can also play (well) on the right aren't ten-a-penny, are they?
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Post by lordb on Jun 24, 2019 9:56:22 GMT
Does our scouting just go as far as the leaked Celtic targets or something? Similar wage budgets presumably?
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jun 24, 2019 9:57:50 GMT
We really don’t need another right back. Not a priority - but who plays there if Edwards is banned/injured. I'm assuming Bauer is one we definitely want to get rid of..... We might need one seeing as the full backs have to be Duracell bunnies in the diamond?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 24, 2019 9:59:21 GMT
Of course there may not actually be anything in this link!
But, if there is, he'd be walking into the club with his eyes wide open about the level of competition. And it's not like a keeper, where you basically know if you're Number 2, you're screwed.
I'm not sure how diamond-suitable Smith is, but we're going to need pretty much specialists there, aren't we? Not 'do a job' merchants, given how crucial they are to the system.
It's possibly the one area of the team where we really could do with FOUR proper options, two naturals on either side.
The chances of finding someone who can play well on both flanks, or a midfield cover player who can fill in there and do well, not just 'do a job' is really low (unless what happened with Justin leads him to believe all full-backs are switchable? Is Justin two-footed?)
It'd be nice if you could find some great versatile player who could fill holes in a few places, especially if you're only looking for 20 outfield players but probably easier said that done.
At the moment, it's hard to see McClean figuring anywhere unless he's pencilled in as the back-up on the left (along with Clucas), but that's not ideal - for the team or McClean. And that's what makes you think McClean has still got to be a candidate to go?
I thought Cousins may be being pencilled in as the back-up RB (as well as midfield cover) with his history there and his supposed engine, but if this happens, probably makes that whole link a bit more unlikely?
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jun 24, 2019 10:06:48 GMT
We definitely do. If Pieters and Bauer go as expected, we have one full back and he is inexperienced and had an up and down season and we dont know ho he wil do in a diamond formation- Brentford away didnt augur well. Edwards was fine all season. We need to sign 2 full backs, one of them doesn't need to be a right back only like Smith is. No he wasn't he had some very iffy performances - to be expected at his age. None of the youngsters should have preferential treatment and there should be competition for every position. If, as is likely, Bauer goes we need a right back - as well as two left backs. If Edwards can prove he's better than any other right back in the squad he gets to play. If not he doesn't. Same for everyone in the squad.
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