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Post by callas12 on Aug 20, 2021 11:25:19 GMT
He’s on £15,000 a week. I don’t think his wage will reduce, but he could perhaps get more elsewhere. Really hope not though, he’s brilliant. Totally agree. How do you know what players earn, if you don't mind me asking? It's always been a mystery to me how people find out. There is a reputable website that lists all clubs weekly & yearly wages in the EFL. I came across it last week & was surprised by some of the figures & who earns what. I'll try & find the link for it
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Post by wherty on Aug 20, 2021 11:27:11 GMT
LGH87: "Signed this morning by the way, for anyone wondering about announcements or worrying he may not be eligible for tomorrow". I believe that the Stoke publicity and public relations office use equipment and technology that was initially acquired back in the day when The Enigma Machine represented cutting edge communication. Or we are delaying the announcement to keep forest in the dark for tomorrow.
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Post by callas12 on Aug 20, 2021 11:30:53 GMT
LGH87: "Signed this morning by the way, for anyone wondering about announcements or worrying he may not be eligible for tomorrow". I believe that the Stoke publicity and public relations office use equipment and technology that was initially acquired back in the day when The Enigma Machine represented cutting edge communication. Or we are delaying the announcement to keep forest in the dark for tomorrow. Or possibly waiting to make a late double signing announcement. It is a Friday Does seem to have been a while since we last had a double signing day. Huth & Tuncay comes to mind, can't think of many other since.
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Post by callas12 on Aug 20, 2021 11:33:45 GMT
salarysport.com/This is the site that details players earnings. It is last seasons figures so the likes of Shawcross & Wimmer feature. Even lists players from the highest club earners to the young lads who are on less than a grand a month. Interesting to have a flick through, it amazed me Powell was on considerably less than Shawcross for eg.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2021 11:38:43 GMT
Or we are delaying the announcement to keep forest in the dark for tomorrow. Or possibly waiting to make a late double signing announcement. It is a Friday Does seem to have been a while since we last had a double signing day. Huth & Tuncay comes to mind, can't think of many other since. Tuncay wasn't announced until the next day as was a hitch with his pay from Boro. I remember they had to cut him off the pic then reveal the whole pic of the pair the next morning. Was the worst kept secret to be fair. I think we signed Darel Russell and Keith Andrews the same day. Was supposed to be a triple signing but Simon Jordan delayed Akinbiyi signing. He was at Corley services on the M6 and had to go back to Palace.
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Post by callas12 on Aug 20, 2021 11:42:40 GMT
Or possibly waiting to make a late double signing announcement. It is a Friday Does seem to have been a while since we last had a double signing day. Huth & Tuncay comes to mind, can't think of many other since. Tuncay wasn't announced until the next day as was a hitch with his pay from Boro. I remember they had to cut him off the pic then reveal the whole pic of the pair the next morning. Was the worst kept secret to be fair. I think we signed Darel Russell and Keith Andrews the same day. Was supposed to be a triple signing but Simon Jordan delayed Akinbiyi signing. He was at Corley services on the M6 and had to go back to Palace. Good memory, didn't remember that happening..
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Aug 20, 2021 11:45:27 GMT
Meanwhile...why hasn't Powell signed a new contract? Because he's waiting to see if we improve it. Why would he rush in his situation? Do we know what the extent of his injury is? Perhaps MON realises he is out for a long spell and can't rely on Vrancic to play every match. Perhaps neither of them are available for Saturday so he has moved quickly so that he can keep the same shape to the team? Lots of unknowns of which new contract negotiations for Powell is only one. You're guessing at a few things there though mate. My question had nothing to do with Sawyers coming in (I know this is a Sawyers thread) but the concern that Powell may be running down his contract, although we paid nothing for him so it might be an option for him. If we got promoted he might want to stay
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2021 11:48:58 GMT
Tuncay wasn't announced until the next day as was a hitch with his pay from Boro. I remember they had to cut him off the pic then reveal the whole pic of the pair the next morning. Was the worst kept secret to be fair. I think we signed Darel Russell and Keith Andrews the same day. Was supposed to be a triple signing but Simon Jordan delayed Akinbiyi signing. He was at Corley services on the M6 and had to go back to Palace. Good memory, didn't remember that happening.. I remember it well as me and my Dad had a quick chat with TP in the Waddo suite and he was really pissed off re Akinbiyi and told us what happened. He was on the way to sign and was filling his car up when he got the call and had to go back Was so close. . TP had a similar prob with Damian Francis who got a call from his agent whilst driving to sign for us. I think we signed Ed de Goey the next day...not 100$ on that.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Aug 20, 2021 11:52:17 GMT
Tuncay wasn't announced until the next day as was a hitch with his pay from Boro. I remember they had to cut him off the pic then reveal the whole pic of the pair the next morning. Was the worst kept secret to be fair. I think we signed Darel Russell and Keith Andrews the same day. Was supposed to be a triple signing but Simon Jordan delayed Akinbiyi signing. He was at Corley services on the M6 and had to go back to Palace. Good memory, didn't remember that happening.. I have no memory of Keet Andrews playing for us at all!
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 20, 2021 11:52:25 GMT
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Post by bertiestan on Aug 20, 2021 11:57:28 GMT
Good memory, didn't remember that happening.. I have no memory of Keet Andrews playing for us at all! Really?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2021 12:00:05 GMT
We tried to sign Andrews permanently but Wolves wouldn't let him go at the time. Was it a 3 month loan?
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Post by realstokebloke on Aug 20, 2021 12:00:59 GMT
Like Sawyers. Proper baller. Get him playing again and it's a complete no brainer.
Surely the plan is that he does his stuff in the middle (of the middle) and so lets:
Powell / Vrancic get on with their attacking w/o having to do the other stuff
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Joe (maybe even Clucas if reports that this was his best ever career position / spell while at Dull) get on with shielding & mopping up at CDM in front of the 3 musketeers - again w/o feeling the need to wander off trying to be jack of all trades?
Rather than Thompson as the back up for that CDM though, I still think we need far, far better.
He might improve yet, granted, and while he's not Barclays, he's not good enough for what we need.
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Post by werrington on Aug 20, 2021 12:01:04 GMT
Good memory, didn't remember that happening.. I have no memory of Keet Andrews playing for us at all! Andrews,and Asaba made their debuts in the 3-0 away win at Derby first game of season I think so anyway alongside another who also made his debut….Russell?
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 20, 2021 12:03:09 GMT
Only thing I remember of Andrews was hitting both posts with a shot in a defeat at Ipswich
Seem to recall him being dubbed the Invisible Man
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Post by potterburt on Aug 20, 2021 12:03:33 GMT
He’s on £15,000 a week. I don’t think his wage will reduce, but he could perhaps get more elsewhere. Really hope not though, he’s brilliant. Totally agree. How do you know what players earn, if you don't mind me asking? It's always been a mystery to me how people find out. As someone has already said FootyManager can be a fairly good at getting the rough idea, that (and sometimes FIFA) seem to get pretty close to the real deals. There’s this site: salarysport.com/football/sky-bet-championship/stoke-city/Which looks like it hasn’t been updated for a year or two and I wouldn’t take any of those amounts as verbatim - more of a rough gauge as to what sort of salary structure is in place at a club.
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Post by potterburt on Aug 20, 2021 12:04:02 GMT
Totally agree. How do you know what players earn, if you don't mind me asking? It's always been a mystery to me how people find out. There is a reputable website that lists all clubs weekly & yearly wages in the EFL. I came across it last week & was surprised by some of the figures & who earns what. I'll try & find the link for it salarysport.com/football/sky-bet-championship/stoke-city/This? I dunno how ‘reputable’ it is, it’s an extensive database but I reckon a lot of it is rough guesstimates on a number of individuals and then the rest and majority is fill in the gaps by scaling up/down accordingly. Interesting to have a gander through though none the less.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2021 12:05:56 GMT
I have no memory of Keet Andrews playing for us at all! Andrews,and Asaba made their debuts in the 3-0 away win at Derby first game of season I think so anyway alongside another who also made his debut….Russell? They did, yes. Even Greenacre scored that day
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Post by onionman on Aug 20, 2021 12:07:52 GMT
Only thing I remember of Andrews was hitting both posts with a shot in a defeat at Ipswich Seem to recall him being dubbed the Invisible Man He's not invisible now is he, not with that hair.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 20, 2021 12:08:39 GMT
Strange pre-season before that Derby game.
Got thrashed at Rhyl and Macclesfield - then turn up on the opening day and thrash Derby away
Then the following midweek, beat Man Utd 3-1 in an in-season, 'pre-season friendly' with 2 from Marc Goodfellow in front of 20,000!
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Post by werrington on Aug 20, 2021 12:10:08 GMT
Strange pre-season before that Derby game. Got thrashed at Rhyl and Macclesfield - then turn up on the opening day and thrash Derby. Then the following midweek, beat Man Utd 3-1 in an in-season pre-season friendly with 2 from Marc Goodfellow! And on the Saturday an injury time Wayne Thomas goal v Wimbledon sent us top 😊
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Post by lagwafis on Aug 20, 2021 12:13:33 GMT
Good memory, didn't remember that happening.. I remember it well as me and my Dad had a quick chat with TP in the Waddo suite and he was really pissed off re Akinbiyi and told us what happened. He was on the way to sign and was filling his car up when he got the call and had to go back Was so close. . TP had a similar prob with Damian Francis who got a call from his agent whilst driving to sign for us. I think we signed Ed de Goey the next day...not 100$ on that. We got talking to Pulis while collecting our away tickets for West Brom (2003/04) - he sounded absolutely devastated about missing out on Damien Francis. I think he signed for Norwich instead and won promotion with them that same season
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Aug 20, 2021 12:24:04 GMT
Only thing I remember of Andrews was hitting both posts with a shot in a defeat at Ipswich Seem to recall him being dubbed the Invisible Man Didn’t he score at a home game that was on Sky?
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Post by callas12 on Aug 20, 2021 12:33:10 GMT
There is a reputable website that lists all clubs weekly & yearly wages in the EFL. I came across it last week & was surprised by some of the figures & who earns what. I'll try & find the link for it salarysport.com/football/sky-bet-championship/stoke-city/This? I dunno how ‘reputable’ it is, it’s an extensive database but I reckon a lot of it is rough guesstimates on a number of individuals and then the rest and majority is fill in the gaps by scaling up/down accordingly. Interesting to have a gander through though none the less. I'd say it's all pretty accurate with regards to the actual wages. As great as Shawcross was for SCFC & I've absolutely no ill feeling towards him for it as he was a loyal as they come which is a rare thing in this day & age. But managing to get Ryan off the wage bill must have been a huge relief. & then when you take Wimmer & McCleans wages etc off that list its not hard to see what a good summer shake down we've had.. It does seem a season out of date however noticed Grealish has been updated on the Man City roster. & interesting how his wage is almost half that of De Bruynes!
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Post by toppercorner on Aug 20, 2021 12:37:34 GMT
There is a reputable website that lists all clubs weekly & yearly wages in the EFL. I came across it last week & was surprised by some of the figures & who earns what. I'll try & find the link for it salarysport.com/football/sky-bet-championship/stoke-city/This? I dunno how ‘reputable’ it is, it’s an extensive database but I reckon a lot of it is rough guesstimates on a number of individuals and then the rest and majority is fill in the gaps by scaling up/down accordingly. Interesting to have a gander through though none the less. By my rough calculations, we're saving approx 260k per week(!) now a lot of those players have gone.
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Post by onionman on Aug 20, 2021 12:42:18 GMT
Pride Park was so hot that day, several thousand people suffered a heat induced hallucination that led them to think Chris Greenacre and Lewis Neal had both scored goals.
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Post by yyy on Aug 20, 2021 12:55:02 GMT
Must have a long signature ✍
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Aug 20, 2021 12:56:51 GMT
Must have a long signature This is taking an age 😂
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2021 12:58:38 GMT
I remember it well as me and my Dad had a quick chat with TP in the Waddo suite and he was really pissed off re Akinbiyi and told us what happened. He was on the way to sign and was filling his car up when he got the call and had to go back Was so close. . TP had a similar prob with Damian Francis who got a call from his agent whilst driving to sign for us. I think we signed Ed de Goey the next day...not 100$ on that. We got talking to Pulis while collecting our away tickets for West Brom (2003/04) - he sounded absolutely devastated about missing out on Damien Francis. I think he signed for Norwich instead and won promotion with them that same season They had a spread on for him and everything. I think was Nigel Worthington rang his agent on the off chance as he thought he'd signed for us that morning.
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Post by PotterLog on Aug 20, 2021 13:06:47 GMT
I have no memory of Keet Andrews playing for us at all! Andrews,and Asaba made their debuts in the 3-0 away win at Derby first game of season I think so anyway alongside another who also made his debut….Russell? And Johnny Eustace!
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