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Post by GeneralFaye on May 14, 2019 6:56:39 GMT
Aye, the bloke who's obviously "out of his depth" here will surely be the next Brighton manager. No two ways about that, Nige.
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Post by callas12 on May 14, 2019 7:49:21 GMT
Talk sport yet again talking about the, 'be careful what you wish for' claim & Ian Danter talking about Stoke getting rid of Pulis & look where they are now! Don't these jokers realise he'd actually left a good 4/5 years ago before our demise kicked in & had 3x 9th places finishes In that time?!
The Charlton-Curbishley demise was almost instant so is a fair comparison but to keep tagging Pulis & Stoke into that equation is poor & lazy journalism..
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2019 8:01:27 GMT
Talk sport yet again talking about the, 'be careful what you wish for' claim & Ian Danter talking about Stoke getting rid of Pulis & look where they are now! Don't these jokers realise he'd actually left a good 4/5 years ago before our demise kicked in & had 3x 9th places finishes In that time?! The Charlton-Curbishley demise was almost instant so is a fair comparison but to keep tagging Pulis & Stoke into that equation is poor & lazy journalism.. People go on about three 9th place finishes as if we were fighting relegation every other season before that and its not like we finished 11th in 2010 and went to an FA cup final in 2011. Hughes had a good couple of years building on what Pulis left behind. Then he dismantled it and wasted tens of millions of pounds (if not hundreds) and now we're in such a mess that despite spending £50m last summer we're looking like a long old stint in the Championship and right old mess in terms of finances/FFP when the parachute payments dry up...
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 14, 2019 8:28:42 GMT
Talk sport yet again talking about the, 'be careful what you wish for' claim & Ian Danter talking about Stoke getting rid of Pulis & look where they are now! Don't these jokers realise he'd actually left a good 4/5 years ago before our demise kicked in & had 3x 9th places finishes In that time?! The Charlton-Curbishley demise was almost instant so is a fair comparison but to keep tagging Pulis & Stoke into that equation is poor & lazy journalism.. People go on about three 9th place finishes as if we were fighting relegation every other season before that and its not like we finished 11th in 2010 and went to an FA cup final in 2011. Hughes had a good couple of years building on what Pulis left behind. Then he dismantled it and wasted tens of millions of pounds (if not hundreds) and now we're in such a mess that despite spending £50m last summer we're looking like a long old stint in the Championship and right old mess in terms of finances/FFP when the parachute payments dry up... What’s your point, sorry?
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Post by JoeinOz on May 14, 2019 8:30:31 GMT
Talk sport yet again talking about the, 'be careful what you wish for' claim & Ian Danter talking about Stoke getting rid of Pulis & look where they are now! Don't these jokers realise he'd actually left a good 4/5 years ago before our demise kicked in & had 3x 9th places finishes In that time?! The Charlton-Curbishley demise was almost instant so is a fair comparison but to keep tagging Pulis & Stoke into that equation is poor & lazy journalism.. Remember though Curbo wasn't hounded out. He chose to leave.
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Post by Davef on May 14, 2019 8:35:34 GMT
Talk sport yet again talking about the, 'be careful what you wish for' claim & Ian Danter talking about Stoke getting rid of Pulis & look where they are now! Don't these jokers realise he'd actually left a good 4/5 years ago before our demise kicked in & had 3x 9th places finishes In that time?! The Charlton-Curbishley demise was almost instant so is a fair comparison but to keep tagging Pulis & Stoke into that equation is poor & lazy journalism.. Remember though Curbo wasn't hounded out. He chose to leave. Yeah, but why let something as simple as facts get in the way of your argument?
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2019 8:40:30 GMT
People go on about three 9th place finishes as if we were fighting relegation every other season before that and its not like we finished 11th in 2010 and went to an FA cup final in 2011. Hughes had a good couple of years building on what Pulis left behind. Then he dismantled it and wasted tens of millions of pounds (if not hundreds) and now we're in such a mess that despite spending £50m last summer we're looking like a long old stint in the Championship and right old mess in terms of finances/FFP when the parachute payments dry up... What’s your point, sorry? Be careful what you wish for isn’t that wrong and using us as an example isn’t that wrong is it.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 14, 2019 8:49:03 GMT
What’s your point, sorry? Be careful what you wish for isn’t that wrong and using us as an example isn’t that wrong is it. It massively is, yes. Getting rid of Pulis was 100% the right decision. His last two seasons saw him bring in a lot of players at considerable expense only to take us backwards. He dismantled the cup final team that was playing good stuff and looked on the cusp of really taking us places and in its stead created a fudge of a side that was neither fish nor fowl and finished in the bottom two of the entire pyramid for goals scored. In his last season we won once in four months and were heading for a relegation battle before eking out a couple of wins in the last few games. There were reports of the squad being divided and demoralised. Is that what we should be ‘wishing for’? Hughes revitalised that squad and took it higher than his predecessor could, getting a tune out of those same underperforming players and sprinkling some flair on top. It worked really well for 2.5 years and then he lost the plot spectacularly, which set us on this road. All that that says is we should have binned Hughes sooner (as we did with Pulis) not that we shouldn’t have sacked Pulis. It was going sour under him too, we just acted faster to nip it in the bud.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2019 8:57:03 GMT
Be careful what you wish for isn’t that wrong and using us as an example isn’t that wrong is it. It massively is, yes. Getting rid of Pulis was 100% the right decision. His last two seasons saw him bring in a lot of players at considerable expense only to take us backwards. He dismantled the cup final team that was playing good stuff and looked on the cusp of really taking us places and in its stead created a fudge of a side that was neither fish nor fowl and finished in the bottom two of the entire pyramid for goals scored. In his last season we won once in four months and were heading for a relegation battle before eking out a couple of wins in the last few games. There were reports of the squad being divided and demoralised. Is that what we should be ‘wishing for’? Hughes revitalised that squad and took it higher than his predecessor could, getting a tune out of those same underperforming players and sprinkling some flair on top. It worked really well for 2.5 years and then he lost the plot spectacularly, which set us on this road. All that that says is we should have binned Hughes sooner (as we did with Pulis) not that we shouldn’t have sacked Pulis. It was going sour under him too, we just acted faster to nip it in the bud. I’m not saying we shouldn’t have sacked him. I’m not one of the ones who want him back. Just that they aren’t wrong when they say look where we are now. Regardless of a couple of good years under Hughes he’s done damage that will take years and years to repair. And people do bang on about three 9th place finishes as if we were fighting a relegation battle every season beforehand and we weren’t. We finished 13th the season that TP left.
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Post by chigstoke on May 14, 2019 9:01:27 GMT
John Percy says that Brighton are set to interview Potter today.
Massive step up for him, is he ready for the jump to the prem?
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Post by cousindupree on May 14, 2019 9:04:09 GMT
Be careful what you wish for isn’t that wrong and using us as an example isn’t that wrong is it. It massively is, yes. Getting rid of Pulis was 100% the right decision. His last two seasons saw him bring in a lot of players at considerable expense only to take us backwards. He dismantled the cup final team that was playing good stuff and looked on the cusp of really taking us places and in its stead created a fudge of a side that was neither fish nor fowl and finished in the bottom two of the entire pyramid for goals scored. In his last season we won once in four months and were heading for a relegation battle before eking out a couple of wins in the last few games. There were reports of the squad being divided and demoralised. Is that what we should be ‘wishing for’? Hughes revitalised that squad and took it higher than his predecessor could, getting a tune out of those same underperforming players and sprinkling some flair on top. It worked really well for 2.5 years and then he lost the plot spectacularly, which set us on this road. All that that says is we should have binned Hughes sooner (as we did with Pulis) not that we shouldn’t have sacked Pulis. It was going sour under him too, we just acted faster to nip it in the bud. An interesting debate is changing managers or giving them time to develop the club.Although I haven't tested the theory but it seems that moderately successful managers have a shelf life of 4/5 years before things need freshening up on the training ground. It's interesting that Guardiola has stated that footballers need a fresh face on the training ground after about 4/5 years. Both Hughes and Pulis declined after 4/5 years and Hughton is the same. The really bizarre strategy is at Watford where they have xhnaged managers every year and still managed to progress...go figure??!!
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 14, 2019 9:04:21 GMT
It massively is, yes. Getting rid of Pulis was 100% the right decision. His last two seasons saw him bring in a lot of players at considerable expense only to take us backwards. He dismantled the cup final team that was playing good stuff and looked on the cusp of really taking us places and in its stead created a fudge of a side that was neither fish nor fowl and finished in the bottom two of the entire pyramid for goals scored. In his last season we won once in four months and were heading for a relegation battle before eking out a couple of wins in the last few games. There were reports of the squad being divided and demoralised. Is that what we should be ‘wishing for’? Hughes revitalised that squad and took it higher than his predecessor could, getting a tune out of those same underperforming players and sprinkling some flair on top. It worked really well for 2.5 years and then he lost the plot spectacularly, which set us on this road. All that that says is we should have binned Hughes sooner (as we did with Pulis) not that we shouldn’t have sacked Pulis. It was going sour under him too, we just acted faster to nip it in the bud. I’m not saying we shouldn’t have sacked him. I’m not one of the ones who want him back. Just that they aren’t wrong when they say look where we are now. Regardless of a couple of good years under Hughes he’s done damage that will take years and years to repair. And people do bang on about three 9th place finishes as if we were fighting a relegation battle every season beforehand and we weren’t. We finished 13th the season that TP left. The season he left we were right in the mix before the last handful of games. We shouldn’t have even been in the conversation. That’s on him. Action had to be taken. We were going backwards. Dismiss the 9th placed finishes all you want but they represented our best league finishes for nearly 40 years and saw us play some terrific football during that time. If we’re retroactively saying they meant nothing then neither did the 6-1 against Liverpool, the wins against Chelsea and Man Utd, the BMX twatting of Man City etc. It’s all part of the same package. What specifically should we have been ‘careful’ about wishing for? Aspiring to better than eye bleeding football and ‘40 points Nige’, even when that blueprint was clearly starting to fail?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 14, 2019 9:05:04 GMT
It massively is, yes. Getting rid of Pulis was 100% the right decision. His last two seasons saw him bring in a lot of players at considerable expense only to take us backwards. He dismantled the cup final team that was playing good stuff and looked on the cusp of really taking us places and in its stead created a fudge of a side that was neither fish nor fowl and finished in the bottom two of the entire pyramid for goals scored. In his last season we won once in four months and were heading for a relegation battle before eking out a couple of wins in the last few games. There were reports of the squad being divided and demoralised. Is that what we should be ‘wishing for’? Hughes revitalised that squad and took it higher than his predecessor could, getting a tune out of those same underperforming players and sprinkling some flair on top. It worked really well for 2.5 years and then he lost the plot spectacularly, which set us on this road. All that that says is we should have binned Hughes sooner (as we did with Pulis) not that we shouldn’t have sacked Pulis. It was going sour under him too, we just acted faster to nip it in the bud. An interesting debate is changing managers or giving them time to develop the club.Although I haven't tested the theory but it seems that moderately successful managers have a shelf life of 4/5 years before things need freshening up on the training ground. It's interesting that Guardiola has stated that footballers need a fresh face on the training ground after about 4/5 years. Both Hughes and Pulis declined after 4/5 years and Hughton is the same. The really bizarre strategy is at Watford where they have xhnaged managers every year and still managed to progress...go figure??!! I definitely think there’s something in that, on the whole. Certainly in the Premier League.
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 14, 2019 9:06:04 GMT
The problem for Potter will be what is success? It was only Brighton's second season in the Premier League and they stayed up with the same number of wins as they did in their first and got to a Cup Semi Final as well. Do the board think they're a top half side? Still see this as a very harsh sacking unless the dressing room had genuinely gone.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 14, 2019 9:14:47 GMT
The problem for Potter will be what is success? It was only Brighton's second season in the Premier League and they stayed up with the same number of wins as they did in their first and got to a Cup Semi Final as well. Do the board think they're a top half side? Still see this as a very harsh sacking unless the dressing room had genuinely gone. They’ve spent £135m to get worse and they’re dismal to watch Sheiky. They shouldn’t have been in the relegation mix with that kind of investment. Hughton did the same at Norwich, did really well but then panicked after a splurge and resorted to incredibly tedious fare until everyone was sick of him.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2019 9:15:11 GMT
I’m not saying we shouldn’t have sacked him. I’m not one of the ones who want him back. Just that they aren’t wrong when they say look where we are now. Regardless of a couple of good years under Hughes he’s done damage that will take years and years to repair. And people do bang on about three 9th place finishes as if we were fighting a relegation battle every season beforehand and we weren’t. We finished 13th the season that TP left. The season he left we were right in the mix before the last handful of games. We shouldn’t have even been in the conversation. That’s on him. Action had to be taken. We were going backwards. Dismiss the 9th placed finishes all you want but they represented our best league finishes for nearly 40 years and saw us play some terrific football during that time. If we’re retroactively saying they meant nothing then neither did the 6-1 against Liverpool, the wins against Chelsea and Man Utd, the BMX twatting of Man City etc. It’s all part of the same package. What specifically should we have been ‘careful’ about wishing for? Aspiring to better than eye bleeding football and ‘40 points Nige’, even when that blueprint was clearly starting to fail? I'm not dismissing anything. Not everything is so black and white. The post I responded to was saying its wrong to draw on us as an example and it isn't because whether you like it or not we're 16th in the championship. We had a couple of better years and that was when Hughes built on what we had and the rot started once he dismantled it. Now we'll be paying the price for us for god knows how long. It doesn't mean it wasn't the "right" decision at the time but there have been consequences so how any can say there aren't warnings for other clubs to head there can't be right. Brighton need to be very careful about who they get in next and what long term targets and plans they have in place and look back on what has been working and not just what hasn't been working.
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 14, 2019 9:20:57 GMT
The problem for Potter will be what is success? It was only Brighton's second season in the Premier League and they stayed up with the same number of wins as they did in their first and got to a Cup Semi Final as well. Do the board think they're a top half side? Still see this as a very harsh sacking unless the dressing room had genuinely gone. They’ve spent £135m to get worse and they’re dismal to watch Sheiky. They shouldn’t have been in the relegation mix with that kind of investment. Hughton did the same at Norwich, did really well but then panicked after a splurge and resorted to incredibly tedious fare until everyone was sick of him. I'm not sure £135M guarantees you anything these days, Rob does it? Look where the biggest spenders in the Championship ended up last season! I'm not sure keeping Brighton up in their second season constitutes much of a failure under any circumstances. It's certainly ambitious by their board but I do think this one could eventually lend credence to the tiresome 'be careful what you wish for' merchants rather than stop them in their tracks.
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Post by callas12 on May 14, 2019 9:36:33 GMT
Just heard Darren Moore doing an interview on TS and what a sound guy he really is, speaks well & has no hard feelings at all against WBA. Jim White was pressing him on the Hughton sacking and the BAME references that have been coming in and he's summed things up perfectly. He's says the decisions were football based and nothing else on his dismissal and that of Hughtons and that's all there is to it.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 14, 2019 10:21:44 GMT
The season he left we were right in the mix before the last handful of games. We shouldn’t have even been in the conversation. That’s on him. Action had to be taken. We were going backwards. Dismiss the 9th placed finishes all you want but they represented our best league finishes for nearly 40 years and saw us play some terrific football during that time. If we’re retroactively saying they meant nothing then neither did the 6-1 against Liverpool, the wins against Chelsea and Man Utd, the BMX twatting of Man City etc. It’s all part of the same package. What specifically should we have been ‘careful’ about wishing for? Aspiring to better than eye bleeding football and ‘40 points Nige’, even when that blueprint was clearly starting to fail? I'm not dismissing anything. Not everything is so black and white. The post I responded to was saying its wrong to draw on us as an example and it isn't because whether you like it or not we're 16th in the championship. We had a couple of better years and that was when Hughes built on what we had and the rot started once he dismantled it. Now we'll be paying the price for us for god knows how long. It doesn't mean it wasn't the "right" decision at the time but there have been consequences so how any can say there aren't warnings for other clubs to head there can't be right. Brighton need to be very careful about who they get in next and what long term targets and plans they have in place and look back on what has been working and not just what hasn't been working. But the specific context people are using as an example is relating to Pulis and ‘being careful what we wished for’. So what specifically should we have been careful about and what shouldn’t we have wished for, if we’re such a good example of this?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 14, 2019 10:23:23 GMT
They’ve spent £135m to get worse and they’re dismal to watch Sheiky. They shouldn’t have been in the relegation mix with that kind of investment. Hughton did the same at Norwich, did really well but then panicked after a splurge and resorted to incredibly tedious fare until everyone was sick of him. I'm not sure £135M guarantees you anything these days, Rob does it? Look where the biggest spenders in the Championship ended up last season! I'm not sure keeping Brighton up in their second season constitutes much of a failure under any circumstances. It's certainly ambitious by their board but I do think this one could eventually lend credence to the tiresome 'be careful what you wish for' merchants rather than stop them in their tracks. Come on mate, if we’d spent that much money and been in a relegation battle, do you think you’d have been that philosophical about it? Look at the signings they made in the summer, how many of them have made an impact? They’ve gone backwards and they’re dire to watch, should their fans be turning cartwheels?
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 14, 2019 10:25:55 GMT
I'm not sure £135M guarantees you anything these days, Rob does it? Look where the biggest spenders in the Championship ended up last season! I'm not sure keeping Brighton up in their second season constitutes much of a failure under any circumstances. It's certainly ambitious by their board but I do think this one could eventually lend credence to the tiresome 'be careful what you wish for' merchants rather than stop them in their tracks. Come on mate, if we’d spent that much money and been in a relegation battle, do you think you’d have been that philosophical about it? Look at the signings they made in the summer, how many of them have made an impact? They’ve gone backwards and they’re dire to watch, should their fans be turning cartwheels? At the end of our second season, I'd have probably swallowed it, mate. Particularly if the next man was a coin toss of a gamble like Potter will be.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2019 10:34:18 GMT
I'm not dismissing anything. Not everything is so black and white. The post I responded to was saying its wrong to draw on us as an example and it isn't because whether you like it or not we're 16th in the championship. We had a couple of better years and that was when Hughes built on what we had and the rot started once he dismantled it. Now we'll be paying the price for us for god knows how long. It doesn't mean it wasn't the "right" decision at the time but there have been consequences so how any can say there aren't warnings for other clubs to head there can't be right. Brighton need to be very careful about who they get in next and what long term targets and plans they have in place and look back on what has been working and not just what hasn't been working. But the specific context people are using as an example is relating to Pulis and ‘being careful what we wished for’. So what specifically should we have been careful about and what shouldn’t we have wished for, if we’re such a good example of this? You do realise the saying "be careful what you wish for" is generally a warning about what can go wrong thinking the grass is always greener so its not about specifically being careful and stating your wishes with a clear intent? We are a perfect example of how things can get worse in the long run not better whether you like or not. We are 16th in the championship. We have wasted hundred of millions of pounds. We are a perfect example of the grass not always being greener. That not me saying I want Pulis back, that's not me dismissing Hughes' achievement that just a fact. No-one is talking about us in the sense that we once sacked a manager and that is a cause of all our problems now or it was the wrong decision at the time but the fact is that we have made a total hash of everything since. So saying we're not a good example is wrong. We are the perfect example of how wrong things can go.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 14, 2019 10:37:10 GMT
But the specific context people are using as an example is relating to Pulis and ‘being careful what we wished for’. So what specifically should we have been careful about and what shouldn’t we have wished for, if we’re such a good example of this? You do realise the saying "be careful what you wish for" is generally a warning about what can go wrong thinking the grass is always greener so its not about specifically being careful and stating your wishes with a clear intent? We are a perfect example of how things can get worse in the long run not better whether you like or not. We are 16th in the championship. We have wasted hundred of millions of pounds. We are a perfect example of the grass not always being greener. That not me saying I want Pulis back, that's not me dismissing Hughes' achievement that just a fact. No-one is talking about us in the sense that we once sacked a manager and that is a cause of all our problems now or it was the wrong decision but the fact is that we have made a total hash of everything since. So saying we're not a good example is wrong. We are the perfect example. We're only a good example if we turned our back on a good thing in favour of something notionally better which turned out not to be. That isn't what happened. We wanted an improvement and got one - in terms of the football, in terms of league position, in terms of points gained and in terms of goals scored. Things went south literally years later, it's a different phase altogether. You can't blame getting the shits on a curry you had three years ago.
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Post by Davef on May 14, 2019 10:45:45 GMT
But the specific context people are using as an example is relating to Pulis and ‘being careful what we wished for’. So what specifically should we have been careful about and what shouldn’t we have wished for, if we’re such a good example of this? You do realise the saying "be careful what you wish for" is generally a warning about what can go wrong thinking the grass is always greener so its not about specifically being careful and stating your wishes with a clear intent? We are a perfect example of how things can get worse in the long run not better whether you like or not. We are 16th in the championship. We have wasted hundred of millions of pounds. We are a perfect example of the grass not always being greener. That not me saying I want Pulis back, that's not me dismissing Hughes' achievement that just a fact. No-one is talking about us in the sense that we once sacked a manager and that is a cause of all our problems now or it was the wrong decision at the time but the fact is that we have made a total hash of everything since. So saying we're not a good example is wrong. We are the perfect example of how wrong things can go. You have no way of knowing how the club's fortunes would've turned out had we kept Pulis though. The fact is that he'd gone stale, crowds were dwindling, the mood in the dressing room wasn't that good and our results and performances were extremely poor. That we've made a hash of everything since (and it hasn't been since the day Pulis was sacked by the way) isn't even entirely down to the manager who replaced him. As a club we've proven not to be as proactive as clubs like Southampton, Watford, Leicester and now possibly even Brighton. They have seen the writing on wall at significant times and have acted positively. You could argue that Stoke did that when they dismissed Pulis, but failed miserably when it came to doing likewise with Hughes.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2019 10:47:17 GMT
You do realise the saying "be careful what you wish for" is generally a warning about what can go wrong thinking the grass is always greener so its not about specifically being careful and stating your wishes with a clear intent? We are a perfect example of how things can get worse in the long run not better whether you like or not. We are 16th in the championship. We have wasted hundred of millions of pounds. We are a perfect example of the grass not always being greener. That not me saying I want Pulis back, that's not me dismissing Hughes' achievement that just a fact. No-one is talking about us in the sense that we once sacked a manager and that is a cause of all our problems now or it was the wrong decision at the time but the fact is that we have made a total hash of everything since. So saying we're not a good example is wrong. We are the perfect example of how wrong things can go. You have no way of knowing how the club's fortunes would've turned out had we kept Pulis though. The fact is that he'd gone stale, crowds were dwindling, the mood in the dressing room wasn't that good and our results and performances were extremely poor. That we've made a hash of everything since (and it hasn't been since the day Pulis was sacked by the way) isn't even entirely down to the manager who replaced him. As a club we've proven not to be as proactive as clubs like Southampton, Watford, Leicester and now possibly even Brighton. They have seen the writing on wall at significant times and have acted positively. You could argue that Stoke did that when they dismissed Pulis, but failed miserably when it came to doing likewise with Hughes. Ugh that's not what I've said. I give up. I said something which wasn't that TP is knobhead so here we go for the rest of the day.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 14, 2019 10:55:34 GMT
You have no way of knowing how the club's fortunes would've turned out had we kept Pulis though. The fact is that he'd gone stale, crowds were dwindling, the mood in the dressing room wasn't that good and our results and performances were extremely poor. That we've made a hash of everything since (and it hasn't been since the day Pulis was sacked by the way) isn't even entirely down to the manager who replaced him. As a club we've proven not to be as proactive as clubs like Southampton, Watford, Leicester and now possibly even Brighton. They have seen the writing on wall at significant times and have acted positively. You could argue that Stoke did that when they dismissed Pulis, but failed miserably when it came to doing likewise with Hughes. Ugh that's not what I've said. I give up. I said something which wasn't that TP is knobhead so here we go for the rest of the day. It's impossible to tell what you are saying though. What should we have been careful that we wished for?
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Post by thevoid on May 14, 2019 10:55:39 GMT
Looks like an opening at Boro they might view Hughton as more of the same? Hughton's expansive compared to TP!
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2019 11:02:10 GMT
Ugh that's not what I've said. I give up. I said something which wasn't that TP is knobhead so here we go for the rest of the day. It's impossible to tell what you are saying though. What should we have been careful that we wished for? I've answered you above. If you don't understand what I am saying then fine but there's not really any need to repeatedly tell me I'm saying something which I'm not. I wasn't even responding to you in the first place.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 14, 2019 11:06:46 GMT
It's impossible to tell what you are saying though. What should we have been careful that we wished for? I've answered you above. If you don't understand what I am saying then fine but there's not really any need to repeatedly tell me I'm saying something which I'm not. I wasn't even responding to you in the first place. You really haven't answered that question though. At least not clearly. As far as I can make out, you're saying that because we were relegated five years after Pulis left the club, we're a good example of a club who should have been careful what they wished for. That doesn't make any sense.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2019 11:15:52 GMT
I've answered you above. If you don't understand what I am saying then fine but there's not really any need to repeatedly tell me I'm saying something which I'm not. I wasn't even responding to you in the first place. You really haven't answered that question though. At least not clearly. As far as I can make out, you're saying that because we were relegated five years after Pulis left the club, we're a good example of a club who should have been careful what they wished for. That doesn't make any sense. From what I heard on the radio that wasn't what people were saying. It's not just about clubs sacking a particular manager its the fans expectations and that things can go wrong, which they have done, thinking the grass is always greener doesn't work out and we are an example of the fact that there are a lot of factors at stake in staying in the premier league. We are a warning to Brighton that changes of manager, personnel and style does not always end up how you think it will and careful planning is needed on their part.
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