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Post by Goonie on May 12, 2019 18:35:40 GMT
Its incredibly dangerous to define any group of people by their subtype: all men are aggressive and violent, all women are victims, all football fans are homophobic , islamophobic, xenophobic Brexit voters
There will be elements of people who do fit that subtype sometimes but to say that that is who they are is incredibly dangerous as it negates the individual
It's amazing how what one does with ones body either alone or with consenting adults in sexual practice means that you would be beaten, stoned, murdered, victimised or imprisoned beggars belief, especially as it's all over in 15 minutes!
If people need for form an LGBTQI group to feel a sense of belonging it's fine by me: people have groups from Stone, Fenton, Longton so why not if that's what they want but maybe one for fingers, or baldies, why not Irritable Bowel Syndrome
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Post by zerps on May 12, 2019 18:43:08 GMT
Singing “does your boyfriend know you’re here” at Brighton fans now comes with a ten year jail stretch. Depends on who its directed at. We have female fans as well. Why are you assuming the sexuality of the female fans?
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on May 12, 2019 19:19:58 GMT
I like my mrs to rub my bulb with her feet pre-coital- I don't feel the need to take a foot fetishist banner to the match with me.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2019 19:58:09 GMT
I don't think people are that bothered to be honest. It's not really a big deal- just turn up and support the team. Why make an issue out of it? Totally irrelevant I agree. Do people need to wear a special hat or something to football to show they are gay or whatever? Well maybe not a hat but a good portion do have a brown helmet.
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Post by Boothen on May 12, 2019 20:01:11 GMT
Totally irrelevant I agree. Do people need to wear a special hat or something to football to show they are gay or whatever? Well maybe not a hat but a good portion do have a brown helmet.
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Post by camstoke10 on May 12, 2019 20:01:12 GMT
Just wondering if we have any LGBT fans on here. If so, has there ever been a problem regarding your sexuality from our fans, away fans or on away days? And if you have, what could the club do to improve your match day experience? I'm not gay myself, Just curious as a lot of clubs have LGBT groups and as far as im aware, we as a club do not. “Just curious...”, I’m sure you are 😆 😂😂😂😂
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Post by mattyd on May 12, 2019 20:17:38 GMT
All inclusiveness is actually divisive. Surely by being " All things to everyone" actually highlights differences.
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Post by spitthedog on May 12, 2019 20:26:40 GMT
Be like having the MOWO awards. Be outrage What would ‘music of white origin’ be, out of interest? Brahms? Beethoven? Nothing without a harpsichord in it. Class
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Post by StokeTudoGuy on May 12, 2019 20:35:32 GMT
I for one would love a BLT group at the matches, I love a pie as much as the next person... But sometimes I just fancy a sarnie.
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Post by iglugluk on May 12, 2019 20:45:25 GMT
Be like having the MOWO awards. Be outrage What would ‘music of white origin’ be, out of interest? Brahms? Beethoven? Nothing without a harpsichord in it. Gregorian chanting
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Post by iglugluk on May 12, 2019 20:52:20 GMT
Be like having the MOWO awards. Be outrage What would ‘music of white origin’ be, out of interest? Brahms? Beethoven? Nothing without a harpsichord in it.
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Post by StokeTudoGuy on May 12, 2019 21:01:57 GMT
What would ‘music of white origin’ be, out of interest? Brahms? Beethoven? Nothing without a harpsichord in it. Gregorian chanting Folk, Country, Classical..... Ah, sod it. The idea of music having a colour is stupid.
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Post by PotterLog on May 12, 2019 21:05:48 GMT
We need an LGBTQISCFCSC
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Post by thevoid on May 12, 2019 21:20:07 GMT
I just hope their hooligan element stays away
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Post by robstokie on May 12, 2019 21:29:11 GMT
I for one would love a BLT group at the matches, I love a pie as much as the next person... But sometimes I just fancy a sarnie. Im more of a club sandwich man - all the above, plus chicken. Mmmmmmmm
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Post by heworksardtho on May 12, 2019 21:42:33 GMT
I'm willing to join the LGBT community if it involves just the L bit... ;-) Do we get tea and biscuits at the meetings 👍 Hobnobs 😎
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Post by marylandstoke on May 12, 2019 23:44:00 GMT
I am but I have the V8.......which puts me in a minority. Is that an MGC? Think more along the lines of a Costello. It’s a 5 litre V8 at the heart. I am considering turning it into a Sebring replica and my pet mechanic finds the prospect exciting.
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Post by wearepremierleague on May 13, 2019 7:49:04 GMT
Think the main group we need at Stoke is AC-12 to investigate the OCG that we call our players
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Post by stokiemac on May 13, 2019 9:24:02 GMT
What would improve their match day experience? A 20 goal a season striker?
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Post by nott1 on May 13, 2019 9:39:19 GMT
Do we have to keep getting this sort of thing rammed down our throats? Ooer missus.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on May 13, 2019 11:46:47 GMT
The ideal would be it doesn't matter and most fans these days don't have an issue with anyone's sexuality. However to claim the problem has gone away completely is simply not true. If there are some Stoke fans who feel they are being treated unfairly because they are LGBT they have every right to form a group to highlight and deal with the problem.
There is still a macho posturing element among some fans and part of that is all about being a "proper" man - which in some cases spills over into taking pretty disgusting views on the LGBT community - as well as some dodgy attitudes to race and gender. Most grow out of it but unfortunately some never do.
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Post by 1982stokie on May 13, 2019 12:08:31 GMT
Its incredibly dangerous to define any group of people by their subtype: all men are aggressive and violent, all women are victims, all football fans are homophobic , islamophobic, xenophobic Brexit voters There will be elements of people who do fit that subtype sometimes but to say that that is who they are is incredibly dangerous as it negates the individual It's amazing how what one does with ones body either alone or with consenting adults in sexual practice means that you would be beaten, stoned, murdered, victimised or imprisoned beggars belief, especially as it's all over in 15 minutes! If people need for form an LGBTQI group to feel a sense of belonging it's fine by me: people have groups from Stone, Fenton, Longton so why not if that's what they want but maybe one for fingers, or baldies, why not Irritable Bowel Syndrome Help me out here, what in gods name does the Q & I stand for in LGBTQI ?
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Post by mattyd on May 13, 2019 12:13:17 GMT
Think the main group we need at Stoke is AC-12 to investigate the OCG that we call our players DCG more like.
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Post by mattyd on May 13, 2019 12:14:41 GMT
Its incredibly dangerous to define any group of people by their subtype: all men are aggressive and violent, all women are victims, all football fans are homophobic , islamophobic, xenophobic Brexit voters There will be elements of people who do fit that subtype sometimes but to say that that is who they are is incredibly dangerous as it negates the individual It's amazing how what one does with ones body either alone or with consenting adults in sexual practice means that you would be beaten, stoned, murdered, victimised or imprisoned beggars belief, especially as it's all over in 15 minutes! If people need for form an LGBTQI group to feel a sense of belonging it's fine by me: people have groups from Stone, Fenton, Longton so why not if that's what they want but maybe one for fingers, or baldies, why not Irritable Bowel Syndrome Help me out here, what in gods name does the Q & I stand for in LGBTQI ? LGBT+ is an "inclusive" way to represent all the different identities in the longer acronym but here's a breakdown of what each of the letters in LGBTQQIAAP mean. L - lesbian: a woman who is attracted to other women G - gay: a man who is attracted to other men or broadly people who identify as homosexual B - bisexual: a person who is attracted to both men and women T - transgender: a person whose gender identity is different from the sex the doctor put down on their birth certificate Q - queer: originally used as a hate term, some people want to reclaim the word, while others find it offensive. It can be a political statement, suggest that someone doesn't want to identify with "binaries" (e.g. male v female, homosexual v straight) or that they don't want to label themselves only by their sexual activity Q - questioning: a person who is still exploring their sexuality or gender identity I - intersex: a person whose body is not definitively male or female. This may be because they have chromosomes which are not XX or XY or because their genitals or reproductive organs are not considered "standard" A - allies: a person who identifies as straight but supports people in the LGBTQQIAAP community A - asexual: a person who is not attracted in a sexual way to people of any gender P - pansexual: a person whose sexual attraction is not based on gender and may themselves be fluid when it comes to gender or sexual identity
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Post by 1982stokie on May 13, 2019 12:19:04 GMT
Help me out here, what in gods name does the Q & I stand for in LGBTQI ? Questioning. Intersex. Bloody hell what does that mean they don't know if they are into sex or not, how did it get so complicated and if they need this group and want it to be all inclusive where is the H. PS Thanks for answering
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Post by chigstoke on May 13, 2019 13:14:01 GMT
Well maybe not a hat but a good portion do have a brown helmet. "That's a nice, err, wooden top you've got there. "It is isn't it... I've got wood there"
One of my absolute favourite scenes of Alan Partridge
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Post by skip on May 13, 2019 13:23:21 GMT
Christ Almighty, in 2019 does the need for an LGBT SCFC community need mansplaining? It's not so they can drape a sodding rainbow coloured banner at the back of the Boothen.
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Post by lowlands on May 13, 2019 13:28:43 GMT
My sister is Gay and as she has said, never joined any LGBT groups never advertised that she is lesbian as she wants to life a life like everyone else and doesn't feel the need to advertise she is gay no more than I feel the need to tell people that I like cats, but that is another story
In essence she lives a relatively normal life with her partner and just doesnt understand why anyone has to do the look at me Im different thing
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Post by Goonie on May 13, 2019 14:07:49 GMT
Its incredibly dangerous to define any group of people by their subtype: all men are aggressive and violent, all women are victims, all football fans are homophobic , islamophobic, xenophobic Brexit voters There will be elements of people who do fit that subtype sometimes but to say that that is who they are is incredibly dangerous as it negates the individual It's amazing how what one does with ones body either alone or with consenting adults in sexual practice means that you would be beaten, stoned, murdered, victimised or imprisoned beggars belief, especially as it's all over in 15 minutes! If people need for form an LGBTQI group to feel a sense of belonging it's fine by me: people have groups from Stone, Fenton, Longton so why not if that's what they want but maybe one for fingers, or baldies, why not Irritable Bowel Syndrome Help me out here, what in gods name does the Q & I stand for in LGBTQI ? Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgender Queer Indeterminate Or so I believe though asexual needs to be added I'm sure!
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Post by nott1 on May 13, 2019 15:33:54 GMT
Folk, Country, Classical..... Ah, sod it. The idea of music having a colour is stupid. Jazz can be red hot.
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