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Post by TheProletarian on Apr 15, 2019 7:55:04 GMT
Let’s give him until December, as he needs some time to get the team going. We all said we’ve written off this season, but suddenly there is unhappiness with the management. We’ve been extremely disappointing this season, but let’s look to next season.
That said though... Cartwright and Scholes OUT!!
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Post by GeneralFaye on Apr 15, 2019 7:59:11 GMT
I'm right behind him and I'm totally against the people who want him gone already. BUT, if he's making strange selection decisions, tactical decisions and extremely questionable subs (or the timing of them) then we can't ignore that either.
In any case, I'll give him until Christmas and reassess then.
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Post by stubbo1 on Apr 15, 2019 8:01:19 GMT
I'm right behind him and I'm totally against the people who want him gone already. BUT, if he's making strange selection decisions, tactical decisions and extremely questionable subs (or the timing of them) then we can't ignore that either. In any case, I'll give him until Christmas and reassess then. |
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Post by stubbo1 on Apr 15, 2019 8:02:39 GMT
It takes TIME to build a TEAM. Just saying
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Post by mattythestokie on Apr 15, 2019 8:02:55 GMT
I think pretty much everyone does support him.
But the boos were a message to say that we’re not just going sit in the stands like muppets and take bad results and bad performances all because of some chest pumping action at the end of the game.
We should be seeing far more improvements than we are by now and we’re not.
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Post by elystokie on Apr 15, 2019 8:06:33 GMT
The post match interview on Saturday is the only thing that sticks in my craw about him at the moment, prior to that I was all aboard.
He quite simply can't take the supporters on, hopefully it was a one off but if it's a sign of things to come he's in for a very bumpy ride in my opinion.
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Post by LankyPotter on Apr 15, 2019 8:18:50 GMT
The post match interview on Saturday is the only thing that sticks in my craw about him at the moment, prior to that I was all aboard. He quite simply can't take the supporters on, hopefully it was a one off but if it's a sign of things to come he's in for a very bumpy ride in my opinion. I don’t think he was trying to take us on. I think he is challenging a few, as he did earlier in the season regarding putting giants up front and pummelling the box rather than building play up (because of the boo’ing). I don’t think he said or did anything wrong tbh. |
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Post by elystokie on Apr 15, 2019 8:28:13 GMT
The post match interview on Saturday is the only thing that sticks in my craw about him at the moment, prior to that I was all aboard. He quite simply can't take the supporters on, hopefully it was a one off but if it's a sign of things to come he's in for a very bumpy ride in my opinion. I don’t think he was trying to take us on. I think he is challenging a few, as he did earlier in the season regarding putting giants up front and pummelling the box rather than building play up (because of the boo’ing). I don’t think he said or did anything wrong tbh. Sounded too Rowettesque for me, as I say if it's a one off then fair enough but it's the first time my support for him has wavered at all, if it's just me, fair enough. He hasn't inherited the best situation (he's hardly alone in that regard tho) and I do believe he can be successful but, for me, that bollocks has to stop. Prior to Saturday whenever I've heard him speak I've pretty much agreed with his thoughts, Saturdays interview had me wondering if we'd watched the same game for the first time since he took charge. |
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Post by wuzza on Apr 15, 2019 8:31:16 GMT
The bloke is struggling and needs help and support.
This club was ripe for a couple of seasons of ‘prime time’ Sam Allardyce management to get it back into some sort of shape but (under the weight of public pressure) they went for a young inexperienced man - as a result we really have no choice but to watch him make his mistakes on the job and hope that he can learn quick enough to make an impact in the not too distant future.
It’s a situation of our own making and as such the owners and supporters have no choice but to stick with him.
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Post by reddipotter on Apr 15, 2019 8:32:12 GMT
Pep Guardiola couldn't produce an effective forward line from any combination of the players we have. Jones is trying different things, a bit like a pre-season, as I've said elsewhere. I'm sure he's learned a lot. Whereas I understand the reason for the booing, I'm not sure it helps. Nathan needs to know that the fans are behind what he is trying to do; that will be a great help to him in getting what he wants in the summer.
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Post by nik80 on Apr 15, 2019 8:35:00 GMT
Let’s give him until December, as he needs some time to get the team going. We all said we’ve written off this season, but suddenly there is unhappiness with the management. We’ve been extremely disappointing this season, but let’s look to next season. That said though... Cartwright and Scholes OUT!! Fair enough. He’s not an unlikeable man, results have been poor but as said, season was written off a good few weeks ago. I have my worries, not of Jones entirely but of what he’s tasked with. If it was all his own squad, I’d imagine he could do something pretty good. |
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Post by berahinosgoals on Apr 15, 2019 8:39:51 GMT
Stoke fans will be the biggest hinderance in trying to get promotion.
Rowett, Jones, The list will go on until people have patience
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Post by brinsleymaclagan on Apr 15, 2019 8:41:38 GMT
The post match interview on Saturday is the only thing that sticks in my craw about him at the moment, prior to that I was all aboard. He quite simply can't take the supporters on, hopefully it was a one off but if it's a sign of things to come he's in for a very bumpy ride in my opinion. I don’t think he was trying to take us on. I think he is challenging a few, as he did earlier in the season regarding putting giants up front and pummelling the box rather than building play up (because of the boo’ing). I don’t think he said or did anything wrong tbh. Except play 4 centre backs which guaranteed a dire match, even though he champions fast attacking full backs. Then he resisted bringing on Verlinden until the 86th minute, even though we were crying out for some pace and attacking impetus. Then he singled out “fans favourite” Bojan for criticism, even though very few outfield players (if any) had a good game. So I would say he did and said plenty wrong. By the way, I want to see us playing the ball through midfield rather than hitting a target man, but that’s exactly what we ended up doing after Bojan went off! If he doesn’t want us hitting long balls to a target man, why did he bring in Vokes and not a clever, more mobile striker? |
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Apr 15, 2019 11:11:52 GMT
He has a huge task turning round this bunch of misfits & an even bigger one getting rid of half the present team & replacing them with players he sees fit to implement his own style of play.
Maybe to bigger task for Jones but we will see i still think we should have gone for a more experienced man to steady things before appointing a up & coming manager who is still learning his trade.
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Post by potterpaul on Apr 15, 2019 11:40:50 GMT
He needs more time than December I'm afraid. The player issue will not be solved in one transfer window, I expect much of the same first half of next season with half the team able to play the diamond and the other half struggling with it, it's not going to be pretty. The problem is that the "it's not his team and he needs time" excuse will not be as valid as it is now and he already has zero credit in the bank, which will only antagonise the situation.
He really did need to revisit his favoured diamond plan about 6 weeks ago in an attempt to get as many of these deadbeats a little closer to his desired expectations as feasibly possible, but he missed the opportunity to do so when he literally had a free hit.
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Post by LankyPotter on Apr 15, 2019 11:59:48 GMT
I don’t think he was trying to take us on. I think he is challenging a few, as he did earlier in the season regarding putting giants up front and pummelling the box rather than building play up (because of the boo’ing). I don’t think he said or did anything wrong tbh. Except play 4 centre backs which guaranteed a dire match, even though he champions fast attacking full backs. Then he resisted bringing on Verlinden until the 86th minute, even though we were crying out for some pace and attacking impetus. Then he singled out “fans favourite” Bojan for criticism, even though very few outfield players (if any) had a good game. So I would say he did and said plenty wrong. By the way, I want to see us playing the ball through midfield rather than hitting a target man, but that’s exactly what we ended up doing after Bojan went off! If he doesn’t want us hitting long balls to a target man, why did he bring in Vokes and not a clever, more mobile striker? I mean its hard to play fast attacking full backs when the two that we fo have are either suspended or only fit enough to make the bench(bauer). Verlinden should have come on sooner imo also but Jones will have his reasons for not doing so and i respect that. I mean, Bojan was hardly criticised tbh it was fairly tame and it was more of remark towards the boo’ing upon his substitution/ application of the players. If Bojan was doing everything that he wanted him too then he wouldn’t have been removed and that goes for every player. Vokes is a great signing - Get the right people around him in the summer and it will look like very good business. He offers us a platform to hold the ball up and you can have to “pacey” strikers up there but one of the two needs to drop in and keep hold of the ball so vokes therefore is an ideal signing for me. |
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Post by Waggy on Apr 15, 2019 16:14:22 GMT
I’m behind Nathan
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Post by nott1 on Apr 15, 2019 16:20:29 GMT
He needs to be put out of his misery (and ours).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2019 16:24:13 GMT
He’s here for the long haul and rightly so.
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Post by questionable on Apr 15, 2019 16:27:17 GMT
Sorry but the “player situation” decision makers are still in place, nothing will change with the vermin still in place.
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Post by thehoof on Apr 15, 2019 16:50:11 GMT
Stoke fans will be the biggest hinderance in trying to get promotion. Rowett, Jones, The list will go on until people have patience Play behind closed doors then. We will walk the league. |
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Post by stokesaint1 on Apr 15, 2019 17:42:39 GMT
Stoke fans will be the biggest hinderance in trying to get promotion. Rowett, Jones, The list will go on until people have patience Sorry but, in my personal opinion, this is absolute b*llocks. Blaming supporters for getting uptight after at least two years of on pitch drivel is ridiculous and has nothing to do with patience. |
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Post by heworksardtho on Apr 15, 2019 17:46:12 GMT
Hughes out 😎
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Post by StokieNath on Apr 15, 2019 17:48:14 GMT
Cheers lads, means a lot.
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Post by rawli on Apr 15, 2019 17:49:42 GMT
Cheers lads, means a lot. Have you calmed down yet? |
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Post by smallthorner on Apr 15, 2019 17:50:53 GMT
I'm right behind him and I'm totally against the people who want him gone already. BUT, if he's making strange selection decisions, tactical decisions and extremely questionable subs (or the timing of them) then we can't ignore that either. In any case, I'll give him until Christmas and reassess then. "I'm right behind him.." "I'll give him until Christmas" Haha.. |
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Post by spoton on Apr 15, 2019 17:53:48 GMT
Why should i, hes no different than the last manager
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Post by GeneralFaye on Apr 15, 2019 17:58:59 GMT
I'm right behind him and I'm totally against the people who want him gone already. BUT, if he's making strange selection decisions, tactical decisions and extremely questionable subs (or the timing of them) then we can't ignore that either. In any case, I'll give him until Christmas and reassess then. "I'm right behind him.." "I'll give him until Christmas" Haha.. And "reassess".. you know what that means right?! |
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Post by leicspotter on Apr 15, 2019 18:00:35 GMT
I think pretty much everyone does support him. But the boos were a message to say that we’re not just going sit in the stands like muppets and take bad results and bad performances all because of some chest pumping action at the end of the game. We should be seeing far more improvements than we are by now and we’re not. Do you seriously think ANYONE could get much improvement out of this shower of a squad? If this is patience then he may as well go now, because it is going to take a hell of a long time to turn this 'ship' around. There were 4 experienced centre backs on that pitch, yet they failed miserably to deal with corners and long throws...you can't blame Jones for that. Second half the whole team seemed to fold...bet that wasn't in the team talk. I would have preferred to have seen Verlinden introduced a bit earlier due to our woeful lack pf pace, but other than that it's hard to see what else the manager can do at the moment. |
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Post by dastokie on Apr 15, 2019 18:00:47 GMT
When the summer comes I hope he clears out Wince, Mcshite, Clueless, awfulbe, along with the hanger ons and the on loans who nobody will want.
Until then Full support because he really has been dealt a short hand.
Patience until autumn internationals then hope to see improvement by the week with the squad he wants to work with.
Just having to bite the bullet at the moment.
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