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Post by hooftastic on Apr 4, 2019 8:51:19 GMT
Came on here looking for a post from March....was disappointed
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Post by berahinosgoals on Apr 4, 2019 9:25:41 GMT
40 shots in 2 games and no joy? Didn't know they had signed dioufy.
We have probably had 40 shots in the last 15/20 games.
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Post by kelw on Apr 4, 2019 10:23:11 GMT
Awful manager now he needs to quit football. His record says different to be fair. Certainly not an awful manager...a manager with a style of play where the end often justifies the means, Just not pleasant to watch.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 4, 2019 10:32:07 GMT
Awful manager now he needs to quit football. His record says different to be fair. Certainly not an awful manager...a manager with a style of play where the end often justifies the means, Just not pleasant to watch. Not lately.
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Post by mrred on Apr 4, 2019 10:43:29 GMT
His myopic brand of football has reached the end of its shelf life. Let’s see if he’ll take the pay off without trying to defraud a whole club this time. 6 years after he said he had a total football dossier for us, he's still producing the same old shite. Funny that.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 4, 2019 11:00:21 GMT
Awful manager now he needs to quit football. His record says different to be fair. Certainly not an awful manager...a manager with a style of play where the end often justifies the means, Just not pleasant to watch. Haven’t justified them for a fair old whole now...
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Post by kelw on Apr 4, 2019 20:57:26 GMT
His record says different to be fair. Certainly not an awful manager...a manager with a style of play where the end often justifies the means, Just not pleasant to watch. Haven’t justified them for a fair old whole now... Bet West Brom would rather be in the Prem, before that rescued Palace. Can't agree with that
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 4, 2019 21:04:42 GMT
Haven’t justified them for a fair old whole now... Bet West Brom would rather be in the Prem, before that rescued Palace. Can't agree with that West Brom sacked him because he was taking them down.
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Post by duckling on Apr 4, 2019 21:12:42 GMT
Awful manager now he needs to quit football. His record says different to be fair. Certainly not an awful manager...a manager with a style of play where the end often justifies the means, Just not pleasant to watch. He's a great manager, one of the best, as long as he stays within a specific niche. If he were wise to his strengths and weaknesses, all he would do is sign a 6 month contract every November. Keep them up, be a hero to fans, leave before his relationship with the club and fans inevitably goes downhill. He got Stoke automatically promoted on 78 points. Given his style of play, that might be the ceiling in terms of point total. That's a very good result for teams aiming for lower mid table, as many are. But for teams aiming for promotion, many years that wouldn't even be enough for the playoffs.
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Post by swampySCFC on Apr 4, 2019 21:34:41 GMT
I think hes everything we thought we could do better than yet weve always been worse off. Never admit though would we because he was more boring than the shit we've endured for 2 years
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Post by adi on Apr 4, 2019 22:53:55 GMT
I think hes everything we thought we could do better than yet weve always been worse off. Never admit though would we because he was more boring than the shit we've endured for 2 years 9th, 9th, 9th. “Always been worse off” Rewriting history and to be honest it’s embarrasing reading your post.
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Post by thevoid on Apr 5, 2019 0:47:38 GMT
His myopic brand of football has reached the end of its shelf life. Let’s see if he’ll take the pay off without trying to defraud a whole club this time. 6 years after he said he had a total football dossier for us, he's still producing the same old shite. Funny that. I don't think Fox Mulder would find that file.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 5, 2019 6:24:05 GMT
Haven’t justified them for a fair old whole now... Bet West Brom would rather be in the Prem, before that rescued Palace. Can't agree with that He’s a big reason West Brom aren’t in it. He put them in a scrap there was no need for them to be involved in. This will be his second straight failure. Palace was a long time ago now.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 5, 2019 6:25:16 GMT
I think hes everything we thought we could do better than yet weve always been worse off. Never admit though would we because he was more boring than the shit we've endured for 2 years Apart from those three years when we weren’t and hit heights he could never take us to. And he dismantled an exciting team he himself created to turn us into a worse, significantly more boring one for no obvious reason.
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Post by JoeinOz on Apr 5, 2019 23:00:23 GMT
I think hes everything we thought we could do better than yet weve always been worse off. Never admit though would we because he was more boring than the shit we've endured for 2 years Apart from those three years when we weren’t and hit heights he could never take us to. And he dismantled an exciting team he himself created to turn us into a worse, significantly more boring one for no obvious reason. I reckon he did it because he didn't want any explanations at all. This was borne out when near the end of his reign he kept going on about Stoke being a small provincial town etc. Which actually bordered on being insulting to the area and it's people
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Post by generationex on Apr 5, 2019 23:10:53 GMT
Exactly. Stoke is THE metropolis. Centre of the known world. How dare he. Leave means Leave. Stoke means Stoke.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 6, 2019 7:29:39 GMT
Exactly. Stoke is THE metropolis. Centre of the known world. How dare he. Leave means Leave. Stoke means Stoke. Does being a small provincial town mean we deserved Shotton on the wing and scoring fewer goals than the team that finished 92nd in the league?
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Post by jarhead on Apr 6, 2019 16:55:34 GMT
His record says different to be fair. Certainly not an awful manager...a manager with a style of play where the end often justifies the means, Just not pleasant to watch. Not lately. Does that mean the Sack.....AGAIN !
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Post by mrcoke on Apr 6, 2019 17:01:03 GMT
Middlesbrough MB in melt down.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Apr 6, 2019 18:02:45 GMT
Incredible comments😄
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Post by Veritas on Apr 6, 2019 18:14:44 GMT
He has been gone for an age why oh why do we still have TP threads on here?
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Post by philm87 on Apr 6, 2019 18:34:51 GMT
He has been gone for an age why oh why do we still have TP threads on here? Because many of the people that regularly post on the Oatcake are bitter, sad, lonely cunts who have made hating one our best ever managers their main passion in life?
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Post by robstokie on Apr 6, 2019 18:35:01 GMT
He has been gone for an age why oh why do we still have TP threads on here? He was one of our greatest managers (in my opinion THE greatest considering the success we had under him in todays football climate, not just on the pitch, but how he, along with Coates, built the club back up - you look at the Stokealona Sparky period that everyone briefly jizzed over, and the spine was still Pulis's) despite the fact he polarises opinion, particularly on here. Lets hope he holds on for us to break the Pulis curse though, eh?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 6, 2019 18:56:24 GMT
He has been gone for an age why oh why do we still have TP threads on here? Because many of the people that regularly post on the Oatcake are bitter, sad, lonely cunts who have made hating one our best ever managers their main passion in life? It’s both sides to be fair isn’t it? We also have people on here who pine for his return and continue to imply or outright insist that getting rid of him was an act of treachery that led inexorably to our decline. Both sides are as bad as each other.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 6, 2019 18:57:40 GMT
He has been gone for an age why oh why do we still have TP threads on here? He was one of our greatest managers (in my opinion THE greatest considering the success we had under him in todays football climate, not just on the pitch, but how he, along with Coates, built the club back up - you look at the Stokealona Sparky period that everyone briefly jizzed over, and the spine was still Pulis's) despite the fact he polarises opinion, particularly on here. Lets hope he holds on for us to break the Pulis curse though, eh? Yeah, this kind of stuff, the implication that even the good stuff that came after him was somehow down to him, that’s what gets people’s backs up.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2019 19:00:26 GMT
There will be some kind of sweet irony if Potter, who was the first beacon in this league for the 'Project Appointment' and the type of manager that is now replacing the dinosaur, is the man to see TP off.
Enjoying a nice glass of red this evening. First toast is to Nathan Jones, our very own young, up and coming project appointment. Second toast to Potter. Good work, agent.
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Post by robstokie on Apr 6, 2019 19:10:49 GMT
He was one of our greatest managers (in my opinion THE greatest considering the success we had under him in todays football climate, not just on the pitch, but how he, along with Coates, built the club back up - you look at the Stokealona Sparky period that everyone briefly jizzed over, and the spine was still Pulis's) despite the fact he polarises opinion, particularly on here. Lets hope he holds on for us to break the Pulis curse though, eh? Yeah, this kind of stuff, the implication that even the good stuff that came after him was somehow down to him, that’s what gets people’s backs up. You cant deny though that the foundations were built by Pulis - Hughes had a ready made back 5 and midfield (including Begovic) when he came in, added a bit of flair and it clicked. It was only after Hughes started to really dismantle that spine we fell apart.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 6, 2019 19:15:43 GMT
Yeah, this kind of stuff, the implication that even the good stuff that came after him was somehow down to him, that’s what gets people’s backs up. You cant deny though that the foundations were built by Pulis - Hughes had a ready made back 5 and midfield (including Begovic) when he came in, added a bit of flair and it clicked. It was only after Hughes started to really dismantle that spine we fell apart. This ‘ready made back five’, talk me through it? Cameron wasn’t an ever present in Pulis’ team and didn’t always play at RB when he did start. Huth only played a few games under Hughes. Pieters wasn’t there yet. So really, it was Begovic and Shawcross, and Shawcross had the best season of his career during that first Hughes season. He didn’t just ‘add a bit of flair’, he breathed new life into a team that had looked shot the season prior and got several TP signings playing better football for us than they had previously.
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Post by robstokie on Apr 6, 2019 19:25:50 GMT
You cant deny though that the foundations were built by Pulis - Hughes had a ready made back 5 and midfield (including Begovic) when he came in, added a bit of flair and it clicked. It was only after Hughes started to really dismantle that spine we fell apart. This ‘ready made back five’, talk me through it? Cameron wasn’t an ever present in Pulis’ team and didn’t always play at RB when he did start. Huth only played a few games under Hughes. Pieters wasn’t there yet. So really, it was Begovic and Shawcross, and Shawcross had the best season of his career during that first Hughes season. He didn’t just ‘add a bit of flair’, he breathed new life into a team that had looked shot the season prior and got several TP signings playing better football for us than they had previously. Im not disputing the fact that Sparky did incredibly well to take that team up another level, but the right steady characters were already here and formed the core of particularly the first 2 seasons. He had Wilson who came in alongside Shawcross, GCam played a majority of his games at right-back under TP, yes, Pieters came in under Sparky (as did Muni, but he was in and out of the side due to injuries etc.) Huth did well until he got injured and fell out of favour. The Zonz was here and improved season on season as was Whelan who did all the dirty work. Where Sparky really did the business for me was giving the Zonz a bit more attacking licence as well as bringing in wide options who offered real threat and were more dynamic than a past-it Ethers and Pennant (think Arnie, Assaidi, Moses, eventually Shaq) as well as strikers who could stretch teams (Odemwingie and Diouf from that period).
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 6, 2019 19:34:26 GMT
This ‘ready made back five’, talk me through it? Cameron wasn’t an ever present in Pulis’ team and didn’t always play at RB when he did start. Huth only played a few games under Hughes. Pieters wasn’t there yet. So really, it was Begovic and Shawcross, and Shawcross had the best season of his career during that first Hughes season. He didn’t just ‘add a bit of flair’, he breathed new life into a team that had looked shot the season prior and got several TP signings playing better football for us than they had previously. Im not disputing the fact that Sparky did incredibly well to take that team up another level, but the right steady characters were already here and formed the core of particularly the first 2 seasons. He had Wilson who came in alongside Shawcross, GCam played a majority of his games at right-back under TP, yes, Pieters came in under Sparky (as did Muni, but he was in and out of the side due to injuries etc.) Huth did well until he got injured and fell out of favour. The Zonz was here and improved season on season as was Whelan who did all the dirty work. Where Sparky really did the business for me was giving the Zonz a bit more attacking licence as well as bringing in wide options who offered real threat and were more dynamic than a past-it Ethers and Pennant (think Arnie, Assaidi, Moses, eventually Shaq) as well as strikers who could stretch teams (Odemwingie and Diouf from that period). Cameron still wasn’t TP’s regular, first choice right back though and Huth didn’t make it past November, when we were still struggling, so it can politely be described as ‘reaching’ to say he had a ready made back five. Nzonzi, Whelan, Adam and Crouch all played better for Hughes than they did TP imo. Hughes undeniably failed to replace the old guard adequately but he was responsible for the good in his reign, not Pulis, just as he was responsible for the bad.
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