Bigmouth strikes again...

[redstriper]

Maclean hitting out at Declan Rice.

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His statement makes no sense. He played for the N.I under 21's. So either he's a Hypocrite, or not too bright. Or both.

[terrorofturfmoor]

🤔 Hmmm,Coming from a bloke who plies his trade in England!!!

[sheikhmomo]

Not so long ago you qualified to play for Ireland if you'd drunk a pint of Guinness.

[maninasuitcase]

He should stick to concentrating on his own football.
He's been pretty decent of late and shouldn't be distracted by what a fellow countryman wants to do with his international career.

[Lakeland Potter]

Mar 27, 2019 9:47:34 GMT redstriper said:

Maclean hitting out at Declan Rice.

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His statement makes no sense. He played for the N.I under 21's. So either he's a Hypocrite, or not too bright. Or both.

Yes, I read the article and struggled to make sense of the logic he uses - and I'm not one of those on this message board who has any problem with him being a staunch Republican.

I think that his comments were made more to earn brownie points with his community rather than a reasoned attempt to apply any logic to the situation. As you say - he's switched allegiances himself (from his country of birth to the country of his ancestors) so it is hypocritical for him to have a go at Rice.

The fact is that hundreds (thousands?) of footballers every year opt to play for the country of their birth or for the country (ies) of their parents or grandparents. Some may not approve of this rule but it exists and it applies to everyone who has dual (or more) elegibility. There is no point in having a go at anyone for the decision they make. All countries are affected - both ways - and each gains on the swings and loses on the roundabouts. That's life - live with it, Mr Maclean!

[Bojan Mackey]

He’s a dick, plain and simple, and seemingly a thick one at that.

[JurgenVandeurzen]

Not bothered, I'll judge him on how he plays for us on Saturday.

All the other bullshit is just noise.

[greyman]

Declan Rice was born in Kingston upon Thames. So he's playing for his birth nation, unlike James McLean. I just wish McLean would help himself.

[thevoid]

McClean's Irish? 😯 He's never mentioned it before.

Still, when you can only muster two goals in two games against Gib and Georgia, they must need all the help they can get 😎

[estrangedsonoffaye]

Maclean, McLean, McClean.

[pottersrule]

Mar 27, 2019 9:47:34 GMT redstriper said:

Maclean hitting out at Declan Rice.

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His statement makes no sense. He played for the N.I under 21's. So either he's a Hypocrite, or not too bright. Or both.

Who really cares? Is it important what he thinks? That's his opinion,he has expressed it,end of story.
The world is full of hypocrites,suck it up.

[jonnybravo]

To be fair he's got a point about Rice if he's told people in the past he's a proud Irish man then he says he's a proud English man, it's like a glory hunter Man united fan changing alligiancies to Man City or Liverpool because they are the top teams in the county now

[wakefieldstokie]

Mar 27, 2019 9:47:34 GMT redstriper said:

Maclean hitting out at Declan Rice.

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His statement makes no sense. He played for the N.I under 21's. So either he's a Hypocrite, or not too bright. Or both.

Thanks James. Yes, The rep ireland and many other sides are just filled with players JUST born in Ireland and no other birth place arent they?

[pottersrule]

Mar 27, 2019 10:56:22 GMT jonnybravo said:

To be fair he's got a point about Rice if he's told people in the past he's a proud Irish man then he says he's a proud English man, it's like a glory hunter Man united fan changing alligiancies to Man City or Liverpool because they are the top teams in the county now

I don't think Ireland could ever lay claim to being a top team.I don't think Rice thought he would ever be involved with England,and when the chance came he jumped at it.He is a young 20 year old man,who hopefully has many playing years ahead, and has opted to play for his birth country,and in the country he lives and works.
To me that is a sensible and measured decision.

[The Toxic Avenger]

Mar 27, 2019 10:56:10 GMT pottersrule said:

Mar 27, 2019 9:47:34 GMT redstriper said:

Maclean hitting out at Declan Rice.

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His statement makes no sense. He played for the N.I under 21's. So either he's a Hypocrite, or not too bright. Or both.

Who really cares? Is it important what he thinks? That's his opinion,he has expressed it,end of story.
The world is full of hypocrites,suck it up.

Be nice if he could keep his trap shut and not make himself look a complete imbecile just this once though wouldn’t it?

[RF10]

And I've got no right to take my place 
With the Human race

[Gifton]

Mar 27, 2019 9:47:34 GMT redstriper said:

Maclean hitting out at Declan Rice.

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His statement makes no sense. He played for the N.I under 21's. So either he's a Hypocrite, or not too bright. Or both.

It is important to point out that McClean only had the option of playing for Ireland after he had already played for the North at U21's or whatever.

As soon as the rules permitted those born in the North to switch and represent Ireland, that's what he did.

Obviously painting the full picture didn't suit the article writers agenda.

[greyman]

Mar 27, 2019 11:37:23 GMT Gifton said:

Mar 27, 2019 9:47:34 GMT redstriper said:

Maclean hitting out at Declan Rice.

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His statement makes no sense. He played for the N.I under 21's. So either he's a Hypocrite, or not too bright. Or both.

It is important to point out that McClean only had the option of playing for Ireland after he had already played for the North at U21's or whatever.

As soon as the rules permitted those born in the North to switch and represent Ireland, that's what he did.

Obviously painting the full picture didn't suit the article writers agenda.

The article doesn't mention the number of English born players in the Irish squad either. JM changed / chose teams based on the rules and so did Declan Rice. He can't object to Rice doing it when he did too along with several of his current team mates.

[pottersrule]

Mar 27, 2019 11:28:01 GMT The Toxic Avenger said:

Mar 27, 2019 10:56:10 GMT pottersrule said:

Who really cares? Is it important what he thinks? That's his opinion,he has expressed it,end of story.
The world is full of hypocrites,suck it up.

Be nice if he could keep his trap shut and not make himself look a complete imbecile just this once though wouldn’t it?

Yes,he certainly makes it hard for people to like him.

[Deleted]

He's acting like an uneducated cave man.

[Gifton]

Mar 27, 2019 11:49:33 GMT greyman said:

Mar 27, 2019 11:37:23 GMT Gifton said:

It is important to point out that McClean only had the option of playing for Ireland after he had already played for the North at U21's or whatever.

As soon as the rules permitted those born in the North to switch and represent Ireland, that's what he did.

Obviously painting the full picture didn't suit the article writers agenda.

The article doesn't mention the number of English born players in the Irish squad either. JM changed / chose teams based on the rules and so did Declan Rice. He can't object to Rice doing it when he did too along with several of his current team mates.

Rice and McClean's situations were not the same. McClean was not allowed to represent Ireland before the law change where as Rice has always had both options.

Rice made three appearance's for the senior team, McClean turned down the opportunity to represent the North at senior level. Completely different.

People with an anti-McClean agenda often only state half truths and misinformation. This filters through to morons who believe everything they read and then the dye is set.

[bigcashprizes]

Mar 27, 2019 10:13:02 GMT sheikhmomo said:

Not so long ago you qualified to play for Ireland if you'd drunk a pint of Guinness.

Didn’t Jackie Charlton investigate Steino’s heritage?

I’m sure I remember there being a cartoon in The Oatcake with ‘Mark O’Stein’ dressed as a leprechaun and drinking a pint of Guinness?

Can anyone confirm this? I may just be tripping 😎

[Staffsoatcake]

Hypocrite,he was born in NORTHERN Ireland,but turned his back on it to play for the Republic,just like Rice,except Rice was born in ENGLAND.

[Gifton]

Mar 27, 2019 12:25:54 GMT Staffsoatcake said:

Hypocrite,he was born in NORTHERN Ireland,but turned his back on it to play for the Republic,just like Rice,except Rice was born in ENGLAND.

See above.

He's not a hypocrite at all

[GeneralFaye]

Loving the soundtrack though tbf.

[greyman]

Mar 27, 2019 12:16:34 GMT Gifton said:

Mar 27, 2019 11:49:33 GMT greyman said:

The article doesn't mention the number of English born players in the Irish squad either. JM changed / chose teams based on the rules and so did Declan Rice. He can't object to Rice doing it when he did too along with several of his current team mates.

Rice and McClean's situations were not the same. McClean was not allowed to represent Ireland before the law change where as Rice has always had both options.

Rice made three appearance's for the senior team, McClean turned down the opportunity to represent the North at senior level. Completely different.

People with an anti-McClean agenda often only state half truths and misinformation. This filters through to morons who believe everything they read and then the dye is set.

I don't have an agenda. I'm pointing out that both made choices based on the rules. As have many of McLean's English born team mates. That is all there is to it. And Rice actually is English.

I just wish he'd keep his trap shut because all he's doing is giving people ammunition.

[brumstokie]

I’m more concerned about Berahino choosing Burundi instead of England😉

[Gifton]

Mar 27, 2019 12:53:53 GMT greyman said:

Mar 27, 2019 12:16:34 GMT Gifton said:

Rice and McClean's situations were not the same. McClean was not allowed to represent Ireland before the law change where as Rice has always had both options.

Rice made three appearance's for the senior team, McClean turned down the opportunity to represent the North at senior level. Completely different.

People with an anti-McClean agenda often only state half truths and misinformation. This filters through to morons who believe everything they read and then the dye is set.

I don't have an agenda. I'm pointing out that both made choices based on the rules. As have many of McLean's English born team mates. That is all there is to it. And Rice actually is English.

I just wish he'd keep his trap shut because all he's doing is giving people ammunition.

Just to point out I wasn't saying you yourself had an agenda mate. Nothing wrong with a healthy debate.

[Mr_DaftBurger]

I opened this thread thinking Liam lawrence had been mouthing off again!

[redstriper]

Mar 27, 2019 11:37:23 GMT Gifton said:

Mar 27, 2019 9:47:34 GMT redstriper said:

Maclean hitting out at Declan Rice.

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His statement makes no sense. He played for the N.I under 21's. So either he's a Hypocrite, or not too bright. Or both.

It is important to point out that McClean only had the option of playing for Ireland after he had already played for the North at U21's or whatever.

As soon as the rules permitted those born in the North to switch and represent Ireland, that's what he did.

Obviously painting the full picture didn't suit the article writers agenda.

Fair point, if that's true he isn't a hypocrite, but given that Rice has switched to England he comes across as a tad anti English as usual, which considering he plays football here and the majority of Stoke fans from whom he expects support and who contribute to his wages are English, seems ill advised and not too bright. He just doesn't seem to be able to keep his mouth shut for his own sake and for the clubs.