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Post by robwahlmann on Mar 16, 2019 17:34:23 GMT
Butland 6, not much to do, but again awful kicking. Edwards 8, MOM another good game. I'm slowly warming to him as a player. Shawcross 8, steady again Batth 7.5, very good in the first half, but a couple of dodgy moments in the second half. Indi 6.5, OK, but looked heavy and slow. Etebo 7, worked very hard, but not good enough attacking-wise. Allen 6.5, too many stray passes for my liking. Ince 6.5, our most dangerous player again, but still not much end product this afternoon. Verlinden 7, good debut, but nothing spetacular. McClean 5, decision making and close control is diabolic! Vokes 6, looked a bit out of pace. Bojan 3, no impact. Afobe 3, what's wrong with him. Can't stay on his feet and every pass seems to miss the target! Diouf, not enough time on the pitch.
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Post by sportsman on Mar 16, 2019 17:37:57 GMT
Indi heavy, slow.....and got to go.
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Post by jarvinski on Mar 16, 2019 17:40:13 GMT
Ince was a joke, like last week, this week and he’ll be shit again next week
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Post by mickey4137 on Mar 16, 2019 17:43:30 GMT
Indi heavy, slow.....and got to go. Very harsh. He's not a left back.
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Post by clarkeda on Mar 16, 2019 17:47:33 GMT
Verlinden- what 😂 he was by far our best player
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Post by Roger Everyone on Mar 16, 2019 17:58:44 GMT
Butland 6, Edwards 8.5, Shawcross 7, Batth 7.5, Indi 6, Etebo 6.5, Allen 6.5, Ince 7, Verlinden 8, McClean 5, Vokes 5, Bojan 2.5, Afobe 3, Diouf 2,
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Post by musik on Mar 16, 2019 18:00:13 GMT
Butland 6. Some terrible goalkicks. Edwards 8. Stable. Shawcross 5. Long balls. And then ... long balls. No threat on corners nomore. Batth 3. Clumsy, slow. Indi 7. Didn't do much wrong, apart from a single pass. Etebo 7. Ball holder. Our engine. Passion. Allen 1. Terrible. Awful. Lost the ball more than not. Ince 7. Our only attacking threat. Pity he can't shoot, should have made it 1-0. Verlinden 8. Really nice to see him out there. Head movements looked a bit like Arnautovic. McClean 7. Worked hard. Vokes 2. Have no idea what he did or was supposed to do. Bojan too little time Afobe too little time Diouf could have got a point if he refused to come on. Making a sub in added time? What was Jones thinking?
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Post by miltonstokienew on Mar 16, 2019 18:04:14 GMT
Butland 6. Some terrible goalkicks. Edwards 8. Stable. Shawcross 5. Long balls. And then ... long balls. No threat on corners nomore. Batth 3. Clumsy, slow. Indi 7. Didn't do much wrong, apart from a single pass. Etebo 7. Ball holder. Our engine. Passion. Allen 1. Terrible. Awful. Lost the ball more than not. Ince 7. Our only attacking threat. Pity he can't shoot, should have made it 1-0. Verlinden 8. Really nice to see him out there. Head movements looked a bit like Arnautovic. McClean 7. Worked hard. Vokes 2. Have no idea what he did or was supposed to do. Bojan too little time Afobe too little time Diouf could have got a point if he refused to come on. Making a sub in added time? What was Jones thinking? Batth 3 .. your mental
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Post by miltonstokienew on Mar 16, 2019 18:05:30 GMT
Butland 6. Some terrible goalkicks. Edwards 8. Stable. Shawcross 5. Long balls. And then ... long balls. No threat on corners nomore. Batth 3. Clumsy, slow. Indi 7. Didn't do much wrong, apart from a single pass. Etebo 7. Ball holder. Our engine. Passion. Allen 1. Terrible. Awful. Lost the ball more than not. Ince 7. Our only attacking threat. Pity he can't shoot, should have made it 1-0. Verlinden 8. Really nice to see him out there. Head movements looked a bit like Arnautovic. McClean 7. Worked hard. Vokes 2. Have no idea what he did or was supposed to do. Bojan too little time Afobe too little time Diouf could have got a point if he refused to come on. Making a sub in added time? What was Jones thinking? Batth 3 .. your mental Edit: half your ratings are bollocks.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 16, 2019 18:08:35 GMT
Edit: half your ratings are bollocks. So is your use of the word your instead of you're!!!!
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 16, 2019 18:29:21 GMT
Don't think anyone had a shocker, except maybe Ince. Not exactly a new thing, but playing Indi at left-back really inhibits us in games like these. Vokes was nowhere near match fit. McClean's effort is exemplary, but he just lacks any quality whatsoever. And Afobe just winds me up more every time I see him.
Butland 6 Edwards 7 Shawcross 7 Batth 7 BMI 6
Allen 6 Etebo 6
Verlinden 7 Ince 5 McClean 6
Vokes 6
Afobe 5 Bojan 6
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Post by camstoke10 on Mar 16, 2019 18:32:54 GMT
Seriously why is butlands kicking affecting his rating? He didn’t do anything wrong, his kicks didn’t lead to a goal? Goalkeepers should be based on what they do with their hands, solid 8, held on to every shot he faced even though there were only a few
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Post by camstoke10 on Mar 16, 2019 18:37:12 GMT
Don't think anyone had a shocker, except maybe Ince. Not exactly a new thing, but playing Indi at left-back really inhibits us in games like these. Vokes was nowhere near match fit. McClean's effort is exemplary, but he just lacks any quality whatsoever. And Afobe just winds me up more every time I see him. Butland 6 Edwards 7 Shawcross 7 Batth 7 BMI 6 Allen 6 Etebo 6 Verlinden 7 Ince 5 McClean 6 Vokes 6 Afobe 5 Bojan 6 how you have given Allen the same rating as etebo is poor, Allen’s passing was dreadful and etebo was the only one out of the two driving us forward, and how you can give bojan anythjng more than a 4 is beyond me, and even worse afobe had a lower rating than bojan, afobe influrenced the game way more than bojan did, he did slip a few times but his runs off the ball were the only thing creating a threat for us, he had a shot on target adwell which vokes failed to do
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Post by ravey123 on Mar 16, 2019 18:43:46 GMT
Butland - 6 not a lot to do but what he did was OK Edwards - 8 getting better each game and looking a proper fullback Shawcross - 6 not a lot to do but apart from 1 dodgy backpass did it well Batth - 6 not a lot to do but bings out the best in his partner Martins Indi - 6 - as with Edwards getting better, would have got a better mark if not for his telegraphed intercepted passes Ince - 4 awful game (ot his first either) he is looking totally disinterested McClean - 7 thought he had a good game especially first half Allen - 7 one of his better games Etebo - 7 drives forward really well but cant pass water Verlinden - 8 breath of fresh air, first 15 minutes he was excellent although a little exuberant Vokes. 6 didnt do a lot Afobe - 4 awful effort - was he wearing his carpet slippers Bojan - 4 not on for long but looked terrible Diouf - not on long enough to make any mark
Jones - 6 we started the game looking like we would murder them but dropped off after about 30 minutes. However it is coming along slowly. We certainly look a lot more organised at the back and ten times fitter. I can see Jones getting us to the play-offs next season
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 18:48:20 GMT
Seriously why is butlands kicking affecting his rating? He didn’t do anything wrong, his kicks didn’t lead to a goal? Goalkeepers should be based on what they do with their hands, solid 8, held on to every shot he faced even though there were only a few And it was blowing a gale too. Some fans........,.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 18:49:32 GMT
Butland 6. Some terrible goalkicks. Edwards 8. Stable. Shawcross 5. Long balls. And then ... long balls. No threat on corners nomore. Batth 3. Clumsy, slow. Indi 7. Didn't do much wrong, apart from a single pass. Etebo 7. Ball holder. Our engine. Passion. Allen 1. Terrible. Awful. Lost the ball more than not. Ince 7. Our only attacking threat. Pity he can't shoot, should have made it 1-0. Verlinden 8. Really nice to see him out there. Head movements looked a bit like Arnautovic. McClean 7. Worked hard. Vokes 2. Have no idea what he did or was supposed to do. Bojan too little time Afobe too little time Diouf could have got a point if he refused to come on. Making a sub in added time? What was Jones thinking? I must have dreamt Vokes hitting the bar with a header.
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Post by sportsman on Mar 16, 2019 18:51:17 GMT
Indi heavy, slow.....and got to go. Very harsh. He's not a left back. He's not my kind of centre half neither. Like I said heavy, slow and got to go.
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Post by camstoke10 on Mar 16, 2019 18:53:38 GMT
Very harsh. He's not a left back. He's not my kind of centre half neither. Like I said heavy, slow and got to go. hed a ball playing centre half, he’s been our most consistent centre half this season
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 16, 2019 18:54:48 GMT
Don't think anyone had a shocker, except maybe Ince. Not exactly a new thing, but playing Indi at left-back really inhibits us in games like these. Vokes was nowhere near match fit. McClean's effort is exemplary, but he just lacks any quality whatsoever. And Afobe just winds me up more every time I see him. Butland 6 Edwards 7 Shawcross 7 Batth 7 BMI 6 Allen 6 Etebo 6 Verlinden 7 Ince 5 McClean 6 Vokes 6 Afobe 5 Bojan 6 how you have given Allen the same rating as etebo is poor, Allen’s passing was dreadful and etebo was the only one out of the two driving us forward, and how you can give bojan anythjng more than a 4 is beyond me, and even worse afobe had a lower rating than bojan, afobe influrenced the game way more than bojan did, he did slip a few times but his runs off the ball were the only thing creating a threat for us, he had a shot on target adwell which vokes failed to do Didn't think there was much at all between Allen and Etebo. Their pass completion stats were almost exactly the same. I'd probably give the edge to Etebo, but don't think either were good enough for a 7 or poor enough for a 5. Bojan didn't offer much, but do think it's harsh to really penalise people for a failure to get up to speed in 10 minute cameos. 6 is just a kind of default mark. Afobe had 20 minutes, and I didn't think he offered much at all. To be honest, neither did Vokes bar his header, but it was clear he was nowhere near match fit very early on so again pretty hard to penalise him for that.
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Post by nonameface on Mar 16, 2019 19:00:29 GMT
how you have given Allen the same rating as etebo is poor, Allen’s passing was dreadful and etebo was the only one out of the two driving us forward, and how you can give bojan anythjng more than a 4 is beyond me, and even worse afobe had a lower rating than bojan, afobe influrenced the game way more than bojan did, he did slip a few times but his runs off the ball were the only thing creating a threat for us, he had a shot on target adwell which vokes failed to do Didn't think there was much at all between Allen and Etebo. Their pass completion stats were almost exactly the same. I'd probably give the edge to Etebo, but don't think either were good enough for a 7 or poor enough for a 5. Bojan didn't offer much, but do think it's harsh to really penalise people for a failure to get up to speed in 10 minute cameos. 6 is just a kind of default mark. Afobe had 20 minutes, and I didn't think he offered much at all. To be honest, neither did Vokes bar his header, but it was clear he was nowhere near match fit very early on so again pretty hard to penalise him for that. For me this is pretty much how I'd have marked it. The real pleasing thing is Edwards and Verlinden being two of the better performers. Hope that gives Jones to think about when considering the other players performances.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 16, 2019 19:06:34 GMT
how you have given Allen the same rating as etebo is poor, Allen’s passing was dreadful and etebo was the only one out of the two driving us forward, and how you can give bojan anythjng more than a 4 is beyond me, and even worse afobe had a lower rating than bojan, afobe influrenced the game way more than bojan did, he did slip a few times but his runs off the ball were the only thing creating a threat for us, he had a shot on target adwell which vokes failed to do Didn't think there was much at all between Allen and Etebo. Their pass completion stats were almost exactly the same. I'd probably give the edge to Etebo, but don't think either were good enough for a 7 or poor enough for a 5. Bojan didn't offer much, but do think it's harsh to really penalise people for a failure to get up to speed in 10 minute cameos. 6 is just a kind of default mark. Afobe had 20 minutes, and I didn't think he offered much at all. To be honest, neither did Vokes bar his header, but it was clear he was nowhere near match fit very early on so again pretty hard to penalise him for that. I'd find it very difficult to give any outfield player bar verlinden more than 5. They were dire. Devoid of ability, confidence and idea. We started brightly and were "gassed" after 20 minutes. This team is truly the pits of the earth. Highlight of the day...butland and Federici were outstanding during the warm up.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 19:27:37 GMT
Butland 6
Edwards 6 Batth 6 Shawcross 6 Martins Indi 5
Etebo 6 Allen 6
McClean 6 Ince 5 Verlinden 7*
Vokes 5
Afobe 5 Bojan 6 Diouf 6
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Post by thehoof on Mar 16, 2019 19:30:27 GMT
Butland 7 - did nothing wrong and handled what shots there were cleanly. Edwards 8 - played we’ll offensively and defensively. Ba’ath 7- some aimless punts but defended well Shawcross 7- never troubled. BMI 6- suffered with severe colour blindness when it came to passing to a Stoke player Etebo 7 - sometimes a bit slow in releasing the necessary pass Allen 6- won lots of ball but passing was shoddy Verlinden 7.5- can be pleased with his debut. McLean 6- tries 100%,first touch isn’t very good. Ince 4- good first 10 minutes , unlucky with the shot hitting the post, then did his usual Lord Lucan. Our best attacking threat?Some comedian’s on here. Nearly killed a seagull with his free kick. Vokes 6- lacked fitness following his lay off
Afobe 6- some good runs but not picked out by the midfield. Bojan 5- not anywhere near enough time to do anything.
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Post by musik on Mar 16, 2019 19:33:39 GMT
half your ratings are bollocks. If so, I blame it on the inflammation. What are your ratings?
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Post by miltonstokienew on Mar 16, 2019 20:19:26 GMT
Edit: half your ratings are bollocks. So is your use of the word your instead of you're!!!! You're so far up Malcolms arse i'm surprised you noticed. Is that better ?
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 16, 2019 21:00:52 GMT
So is your use of the word your instead of you're!!!! You're so far up Malcolms arse i'm surprised you noticed. Is that better ? Slightly better. Would have been better still if you had known that Malcolm's arse was missing an apostrophe.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 16, 2019 21:22:40 GMT
Indi heavy, slow.....and got to go. Very harsh. He's not a left back. He's not a left back mate and I've taken that into consideration but even a centre half being shoehorned into the left back slot should have the ability to pass the ball 10 yards to a Stoke player. I'm not sure Indi completed a single simple pass today and in fact he gave the ball away countless times in very dangerous areas putting us under unnecessary pressure. He got skinned numerous times by their young right wing and was out of position in as many more. They targeted his poor touch and slow ponderous movement all game. Tymon must be diabolical if Indi is a better left back and should be sold in the summer.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Mar 16, 2019 21:35:39 GMT
Very harsh. He's not a left back. He's not a left back mate and I've taken that into consideration but even a centre half being shoehorned into the left back slot should have the ability to pass the ball 10 yards to a Stoke player. I'm not sure Indi completed a single simple pass today and in fact he gave the ball away countless times in very dangerous areas putting us under unnecessary pressure. He got skinned numerous times by their young right wing and was out of position in as many more. They targeted his poor touch and slow ponderous movement all game. Tymon must be diabolical if Indi is a better left back and should be sold in the summer. What’s bizarre is we have a better left back than either and loaned him out , yet no one seems to think he is anything but a decent professional another one for the forum
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Post by mickey4137 on Mar 16, 2019 21:43:37 GMT
Very harsh. He's not a left back. He's not a left back mate and I've taken that into consideration but even a centre half being shoehorned into the left back slot should have the ability to pass the ball 10 yards to a Stoke player. I'm not sure Indi completed a single simple pass today and in fact he gave the ball away countless times in very dangerous areas putting us under unnecessary pressure. He got skinned numerous times by their young right wing and was out of position in as many more. They targeted his poor touch and slow ponderous movement all game. Tymon must be diabolical if Indi is a better left back and should be sold in the summer. Joe Lolley didn't get a sniff against him the other week. He just had a bad game today.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 16, 2019 21:48:34 GMT
He's not a left back mate and I've taken that into consideration but even a centre half being shoehorned into the left back slot should have the ability to pass the ball 10 yards to a Stoke player. I'm not sure Indi completed a single simple pass today and in fact he gave the ball away countless times in very dangerous areas putting us under unnecessary pressure. He got skinned numerous times by their young right wing and was out of position in as many more. They targeted his poor touch and slow ponderous movement all game. Tymon must be diabolical if Indi is a better left back and should be sold in the summer. What’s bizarre is we have a better left back than either and loaned him out , yet no one seems to think he is anything but a decent professional another one for the forum We've been here before countless times. But the only thing that would make any sense about that would be if he'd done something (which hasn't come out) to justify clearing him out pronto without an anywhere near adequate replacement. We are definitely much more solid under Jones apart from left back. And today it was exposed more than usual because as good as Verlinden was going forward he didn't give Indi any cover at all.
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