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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2019 19:06:50 GMT
Why make this and go over the exact same thing over and over again?
Neither side will change their mind unless he's played for 10 games in a long run.
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Post by pottersrule on Mar 18, 2019 19:13:04 GMT
Hughes wasn't defensive neither was Lambert or is Jones.Rowett was the only defensive manager out of four. Don’t necessarily disagree with your argument but Lambert not defensive, I thought he was the most defensive of the lot He stated that he had to be more defensive than he normally is,when he came to Stoke, because the players were so unfit. The team he put out against us in the Fa cup,certainly wasn't defensive,they murdered us.
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Post by wakeypotter on Mar 18, 2019 19:14:24 GMT
The thing is if we were playing great and scoring plenty of goals most of the bojan fans wouldn’t complain to why he isn’t playing. The fact is we are not creating many chances and some of the players playing regular are garbage with no creativity. Let’s say if bojan had a 6 game run and offered very little I’m sure most of the bojan fans would say fair enough time for him to go. Most of you who are against bojan don’t see the fact that he more than any other player has not had a run of games this season to say he offers nothing. If he had a run of games that would be different.
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Post by wakeypotter on Mar 18, 2019 19:16:56 GMT
I was talking about stoke managers over the last year or so. Hughes wasn't defensive neither was Lambert or is Jones.Rowett was the only defensive manager out of four. Totally disagree re lambert and jones up to press they were both defensive. The only really offensive was Hughes
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Post by ursemboys on Mar 18, 2019 19:17:18 GMT
So he should have cuddled up to them and told them what fantastic players they where last season ,how they only got relegated but never mind go and have a kick about on Saturday and see if you can get it out your systems .ffs sake they get paid thousands they aint 5 year olds playing in the play ground . But fans slating the manager is fine is it ?,but when he slates them back they cry about it . You manage in private not in public. I’m not defending a bunch of fairy players but Rowetts approach was idiotic and bound to fail. I Get what your saying but sometimes these players piss me off with there lack of effort ,part off me was glad he came out and said what he said ,I still think he was the right man ,we aint much better at the moment but I am glad Nathan is here
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Mar 18, 2019 19:25:06 GMT
You manage in private not in public. I’m not defending a bunch of fairy players but Rowetts approach was idiotic and bound to fail. I Get what your saying but sometimes these players piss me off with there lack of effort ,part off me was glad he came out and said what he said ,I still think he was the right man ,we aint much better at the moment but I am glad Nathan is here Again don’t get me wrong these mentally and physically overpaid fairies need to be told some home truths and have their asses hauled over coals but do it behind closed doors. No player is going to respect or support a manager that publicly humiliates him, it never works.
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Post by pottersrule on Mar 18, 2019 19:36:06 GMT
Hughes wasn't defensive neither was Lambert or is Jones.Rowett was the only defensive manager out of four. Totally disagree re lambert and jones up to press they were both defensive. The only really offensive was Hughes Lambert isn't known as a defensive manager,he was defensive at Stoke because our players were so unfit when he arrived. Jones is not a defensive manager either.Look at his managerial record.In 2017/18 season they scored 94 goals only Man City outscored them.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Mar 18, 2019 19:41:37 GMT
So I’m not missing the point, the title of the post is seeking opinion on why Bojan isn’t playing.
Reading a significant number of posters who consider Bojan as a player simply can’t cut the mustard, I’ll sit in their camp.
As normal a post gets side tracked and gets entrenched into reasons “for” and reasons “against”
I think about six different managers names have been highlighted over a career where for whatever reasons those managers have decided that Bojan did/does not have the attributes to enhance their team selection.
To save on boredom, how about those who continually support Bojan’s inclusion in the team form a protest group and refuse to attend games where he’s not first choice, ignore social media sites and news outlets where the majority disagree their point of view.
If Bojan proves the majority wrong they can reap revenge, dance up and down waving their arms by telling all “We told you so”
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Post by elystokie on Mar 18, 2019 20:12:28 GMT
Yeh, just give him the one game then we can get back to playing the players that are serving us so well at the moment cos they all only got one game to prove themselves as well. Sounds fair enough... Just a quick question but do you own a Stoke top with Bojans name on it and your to tight buy one with a current playing player on it . perhaps trade it in for a top with Mcclean on it at least he makes some effort I don't. But thanks for the hilarious interlude, you really should look at comedy writing as a possibly lucrative sideline.
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Post by elystokie on Mar 18, 2019 20:16:49 GMT
So I’m not missing the point, the title of the post is seeking opinion on why Bojan isn’t playing. Reading a significant number of posters who consider Bojan as a player simply can’t cut the mustard, I’ll sit in their camp. As normal a post gets side tracked and gets entrenched into reasons “for” and reasons “against” I think about six different managers names have been highlighted over a career where for whatever reasons those managers have decided that Bojan did/does not have the attributes to enhance their team selection. To save on boredom, how about those who continually support Bojan’s inclusion in the team form a protest group and refuse to attend games where he’s not first choice, ignore social media sites and news outlets where the majority disagree their point of view. If Bojan proves the majority wrong they can reap revenge, dance up and down waving their arms by telling all “We told you so” To save on boredom people could also stop banging on about some £50 charity bet or other they're determined to have on Bojans appearances, think I've seen one particularly persistent (not to mention tedious) individual mention it about half a dozen times at least. Nice gesture for the charity but bloody hell...
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Post by elystokie on Mar 18, 2019 20:17:06 GMT
So I’m not missing the point, the title of the post is seeking opinion on why Bojan isn’t playing. Reading a significant number of posters who consider Bojan as a player simply can’t cut the mustard, I’ll sit in their camp. As normal a post gets side tracked and gets entrenched into reasons “for” and reasons “against” I think about six different managers names have been highlighted over a career where for whatever reasons those managers have decided that Bojan did/does not have the attributes to enhance their team selection. To save on boredom, how about those who continually support Bojan’s inclusion in the team form a protest group and refuse to attend games where he’s not first choice, ignore social media sites and news outlets where the majority disagree their point of view. If Bojan proves the majority wrong they can reap revenge, dance up and down waving their arms by telling all “We told you so” my phone was determined to post that twice
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Post by wakeypotter on Mar 18, 2019 20:19:42 GMT
So I’m not missing the point, the title of the post is seeking opinion on why Bojan isn’t playing. Reading a significant number of posters who consider Bojan as a player simply can’t cut the mustard, I’ll sit in their camp. As normal a post gets side tracked and gets entrenched into reasons “for” and reasons “against” I think about six different managers names have been highlighted over a career where for whatever reasons those managers have decided that Bojan did/does not have the attributes to enhance their team selection. To save on boredom, how about those who continually support Bojan’s inclusion in the team form a protest group and refuse to attend games where he’s not first choice, ignore social media sites and news outlets where the majority disagree their point of view. If Bojan proves the majority wrong they can reap revenge, dance up and down waving their arms by telling all “We told you so” Nice childish response
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Post by owdestokie2 on Mar 18, 2019 21:01:10 GMT
So I’m not missing the point, the title of the post is seeking opinion on why Bojan isn’t playing. Reading a significant number of posters who consider Bojan as a player simply can’t cut the mustard, I’ll sit in their camp. As normal a post gets side tracked and gets entrenched into reasons “for” and reasons “against” I think about six different managers names have been highlighted over a career where for whatever reasons those managers have decided that Bojan did/does not have the attributes to enhance their team selection. To save on boredom, how about those who continually support Bojan’s inclusion in the team form a protest group and refuse to attend games where he’s not first choice, ignore social media sites and news outlets where the majority disagree their point of view. If Bojan proves the majority wrong they can reap revenge, dance up and down waving their arms by telling all “We told you so” Nice childish response Get over Bojan...
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Post by owdestokie2 on Mar 18, 2019 21:03:45 GMT
So I’m not missing the point, the title of the post is seeking opinion on why Bojan isn’t playing. Reading a significant number of posters who consider Bojan as a player simply can’t cut the mustard, I’ll sit in their camp. As normal a post gets side tracked and gets entrenched into reasons “for” and reasons “against” I think about six different managers names have been highlighted over a career where for whatever reasons those managers have decided that Bojan did/does not have the attributes to enhance their team selection. To save on boredom, how about those who continually support Bojan’s inclusion in the team form a protest group and refuse to attend games where he’s not first choice, ignore social media sites and news outlets where the majority disagree their point of view. If Bojan proves the majority wrong they can reap revenge, dance up and down waving their arms by telling all “We told you so” To save on boredom people could also stop banging on about some £50 charity bet or other they're determined to have on Bojans appearances, think I've seen one particularly persistent (not to mention tedious) individual mention it about half a dozen times at least. Nice gesture for the charity but bloody hell... Glad you take note. My offer still stands. People should really get over Bojan
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2019 21:09:09 GMT
Why do we need Bojan, when we’ve got Ince?
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Post by wakeypotter on Mar 18, 2019 22:00:31 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2019 22:41:07 GMT
So I’m not missing the point, the title of the post is seeking opinion on why Bojan isn’t playing. Reading a significant number of posters who consider Bojan as a player simply can’t cut the mustard, I’ll sit in their camp. As normal a post gets side tracked and gets entrenched into reasons “for” and reasons “against” I think about six different managers names have been highlighted over a career where for whatever reasons those managers have decided that Bojan did/does not have the attributes to enhance their team selection. To save on boredom, how about those who continually support Bojan’s inclusion in the team form a protest group and refuse to attend games where he’s not first choice, ignore social media sites and news outlets where the majority disagree their point of view. If Bojan proves the majority wrong they can reap revenge, dance up and down waving their arms by telling all “We told you so” Breaking it down...answer as honestly as you can; 1. Does Tom Ince, based upon his last 10 games, deserve a starting slot in the 10 role? 2. Do you think, based on those past 10 games, that Bojan could possibly be/do any worse? 3. What is Ince bringing to the table that Bojan wouldn’t? 4. Which of the two looks more like he actually wants to play football? 5. Which one is the multi-club mercenary, still only relatively young? If there’s another suitable 10 in the squad, then great, if not, give Bojan the rest of the season, and if he’s shit, get rid. As for Ince, get rid anyway.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Mar 18, 2019 22:51:56 GMT
So I’m not missing the point, the title of the post is seeking opinion on why Bojan isn’t playing. Reading a significant number of posters who consider Bojan as a player simply can’t cut the mustard, I’ll sit in their camp. As normal a post gets side tracked and gets entrenched into reasons “for” and reasons “against” I think about six different managers names have been highlighted over a career where for whatever reasons those managers have decided that Bojan did/does not have the attributes to enhance their team selection. To save on boredom, how about those who continually support Bojan’s inclusion in the team form a protest group and refuse to attend games where he’s not first choice, ignore social media sites and news outlets where the majority disagree their point of view. If Bojan proves the majority wrong they can reap revenge, dance up and down waving their arms by telling all “We told you so” Breaking it down...answer as honestly as you can; 1. Does Tom Ince, based upon his last 10 games, deserve a starting slot in the 10 role? 2. Do you think, based on those past 10 games, that Bojan could possibly be/do any worse? 3. What is Ince bringing to the table that Bojan wouldn’t? 4. Which of the two looks more like he actually wants to play football? 5. Which one is the multi-club mercenary, still only relatively young? If there’s another suitable 10 in the squad, then great, if not, give Bojan the rest of the season, and if he’s shit, get rid. As for Ince, get rid anyway. I thought the post was about Bojan, not Ince. However, if there was an alternative I’d have neither. My personal opinion (extremely negative) about Ince has been posted a number of times. If it was a straight choice between the two that had to be made I would go for Ince and that’s the problem we have at the moment
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2019 13:35:20 GMT
Breaking it down...answer as honestly as you can; 1. Does Tom Ince, based upon his last 10 games, deserve a starting slot in the 10 role? 2. Do you think, based on those past 10 games, that Bojan could possibly be/do any worse? 3. What is Ince bringing to the table that Bojan wouldn’t? 4. Which of the two looks more like he actually wants to play football? 5. Which one is the multi-club mercenary, still only relatively young? If there’s another suitable 10 in the squad, then great, if not, give Bojan the rest of the season, and if he’s shit, get rid. As for Ince, get rid anyway. I thought the post was about Bojan, not Ince. However, if there was an alternative I’d have neither. My personal opinion (extremely negative) about Ince has been posted a number of times. If it was a straight choice between the two that had to be made I would go for Ince and that’s the problem we have at the moment Ince is relevant, as he’s keeping Bojan out of the side. How much longer we let Ince turn in 4/10 and 5/10 performances, who knows?
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Post by elystokie on Mar 19, 2019 14:36:35 GMT
To save on boredom people could also stop banging on about some £50 charity bet or other they're determined to have on Bojans appearances, think I've seen one particularly persistent (not to mention tedious) individual mention it about half a dozen times at least. Nice gesture for the charity but bloody hell... Glad you take note. My offer still stands. People should really get over Bojan I take note because, like everybody else, I had no choice but keep reading the same post worded slightly differently. People will do what they want, can't see why they wouldn't, d'you really think your whining and bitching will change anyone's mind?
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Post by stokie223 on Mar 19, 2019 14:50:31 GMT
The thing is if we were playing great and scoring plenty of goals most of the bojan fans wouldn’t complain to why he isn’t playing. The fact is we are not creating many chances and some of the players playing regular are garbage with no creativity. Let’s say if bojan had a 6 game run and offered very little I’m sure most of the bojan fans would say fair enough time for him to go. Most of you who are against bojan don’t see the fact that he more than any other player has not had a run of games this season to say he offers nothing. If he had a run of games that would be different. absolutely bang on! Ince/McClean/Afobe, amongst many others, have all been given chance after chance - despite producing relatively little & themselves being below par. I love Bojan, however if he was given a run in the team & didn't produce then I'd be happy to admit I was wrong. He simply hasn't been afforded the same luxury as others.
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Post by pottersrule on Mar 19, 2019 19:47:06 GMT
I thought the post was about Bojan, not Ince. However, if there was an alternative I’d have neither. My personal opinion (extremely negative) about Ince has been posted a number of times. If it was a straight choice between the two that had to be made I would go for Ince and that’s the problem we have at the moment Ince is relevant, as he’s keeping Bojan out of the side. How much longer we let Ince turn in 4/10 and 5/10 performances, who knows? Is Ince keeping Bojan out of the side though? Ince is a winger and Bojan a second striker.Whilst we play with one up front i can't see Bojan getting a fair go.He is not a winger and it does him no favours playing him there.
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Post by steewee on Mar 30, 2019 15:46:14 GMT
We look so much more inventive. Just need to get that front like clicking. I'm enjoying watching.
I hope you or one of your staff read this Jonesy lad!
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Post by cobhamstokey on Mar 30, 2019 15:51:38 GMT
He’s done well today. Give him a run of games and he’ll do well. Great passing.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Mar 30, 2019 15:53:24 GMT
He's been okay, tidy but created very little.
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Post by liathroid on Mar 30, 2019 15:55:12 GMT
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Post by mrcoke on Mar 30, 2019 15:56:09 GMT
The end product still isn't any better, but we look a lot more positive with him making himself available for passes and probing their defence.
I'll guarantee he is taken off after 60 minutes.
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Post by nonameface on Mar 30, 2019 15:58:02 GMT
His general play has been the poorest out of the central midfielders, but he's been better than the wide players.
Hopefully if he takes another free kick or corner it's nothing like what he's done so far today.
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 30, 2019 16:57:00 GMT
He did easily enough today to start the next game. Something will come off soon.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2019 16:59:45 GMT
Visibly a better side with him in it. Great to see him not only lasting beyond the hour but actually livening up and driving on for the last third of the game. Etebo was my MOTM but Bojan comes out with credit for sure.
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