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Post by terryconroysmagic on Mar 18, 2019 11:21:51 GMT
I didn't say he did buy him did I? Good old Gary, wonder where we'd be now without his stellar purchases and tactical masterclasses, not to mention good old Saido and his impeccable professional attitude. I think it's all become clear now that Gary was unfairly treated r.e bojan & bauer aswell as the actual state of the players he started with... premier league squad? My jap eye. He was on a hiding to nothing from day one, it was always a 2 to 3 year rebuild. Hate to say I told you so....but..er... He wasn’t on a hiding to nothing from day 1, there was a huge amount of goodwill for him. He was on a hiding to nothing from the day he publicly threw some of the players under the bus and slating the fans.
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Post by elystokie on Mar 18, 2019 12:21:45 GMT
I hadn't realised Bojan had criticised all of those managers in the press, don't know how I missed all the articles, could you possibly provide some links to the relevant quotes? Of course he can't. I thought you'd written him off too early, seems you were right Maybe he's still looking?
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Post by nott1 on Mar 18, 2019 12:24:53 GMT
I thought you'd written him off too early, seems you were right Maybe he's still looking? He would have been back like a shot with the evidence if he had any.
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Post by ursemboys on Mar 18, 2019 13:08:10 GMT
I didn't say he did buy him did I? Good old Gary, wonder where we'd be now without his stellar purchases and tactical masterclasses, not to mention good old Saido and his impeccable professional attitude. I think it's all become clear now that Gary was unfairly treated r.e bojan & bauer aswell as the actual state of the players he started with... premier league squad? My jap eye. He was on a hiding to nothing from day one, it was always a 2 to 3 year rebuild. Hate to say I told you so....but..er... Totally agree about the hiding to nothing mate but i cannot defend him buying Woods and Ince.
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Post by ursemboys on Mar 18, 2019 13:10:54 GMT
I think it's all become clear now that Gary was unfairly treated r.e bojan & bauer aswell as the actual state of the players he started with... premier league squad? My jap eye. He was on a hiding to nothing from day one, it was always a 2 to 3 year rebuild. Hate to say I told you so....but..er... He wasn’t on a hiding to nothing from day 1, there was a huge amount of goodwill for him. He was on a hiding to nothing from the day he publicly threw some of the players under the bus and slating the fans. He didn't slate enough players,and slating the fans ffs sake some people are really sensitive ,good at dishing it out but don't like it back at them . Sure most ran home crying to mummy saying Garry has called us names ,not going again till he leaves
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Post by berahinosgoals on Mar 18, 2019 14:03:09 GMT
I think it's all become clear now that Gary was unfairly treated r.e bojan & bauer aswell as the actual state of the players he started with... premier league squad? My jap eye. He was on a hiding to nothing from day one, it was always a 2 to 3 year rebuild. Hate to say I told you so....but..er... Totally agree about the hiding to nothing mate but i cannot defend him buying Woods and Ince. is woods struggling though because he's playing with a team of statues, they don't seem to grasp the concept of pass and move, make themselves available etc. I'm not a fan of ince myself. Anybody that performs acrobatics to avoid contact is a 👎 from me
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Post by ursemboys on Mar 18, 2019 14:08:47 GMT
Totally agree about the hiding to nothing mate but i cannot defend him buying Woods and Ince. is woods struggling though because he's playing with a team of statues, they don't seem to grasp the concept of pass and move, make themselves available etc. I'm not a fan of ince myself. Anybody that performs acrobatics to avoid contact is a 👎 from me I just cannot get my head around Woods,i just dont see him has a very good footballer at all ,hope he proves me wrong though .
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Post by pottersrule on Mar 18, 2019 15:13:22 GMT
What Pep Guardiola, Luis Enrique ,Frank De Boer and Mark Hughes were defensive? Bojan criticised all of the above in the press for being unfair to him,so there is a common theme with this player.I wonder why. I hadn't realised Bojan had criticised all of those managers in the press, don't know how I missed all the articles, could you possibly provide some links to the relevant quotes? Start by googling Marca article on Bojan criticism of Guadiola.The criticism of Mark Hughes, well no I don't know how you missed that one.Then google Bojan criticism of Luis Enrique.Also an interesting article in the guardian titled where did it all go wrong for wonder kid Bojan Krikc.A very interesting piece on his stay at Roma,where he got more starts than any other player ( 33).Quote "However his form was inconsistent and he failed to impose himself on games" Sounds familiar.
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Post by elystokie on Mar 18, 2019 15:24:32 GMT
I hadn't realised Bojan had criticised all of those managers in the press, don't know how I missed all the articles, could you possibly provide some links to the relevant quotes? Start by googling Marca article on Bojan criticism of Guadiola.The criticism of Mark Hughes, well no I don't know how you missed that one.Then google Bojan criticism of Luis Enrique.Also an interesting article in the guardian titled where did it all go wrong for wonder kid Bojan Krikc.A very interesting piece on his stay at Roma,where he got more starts than any other player ( 33).Quote "However his form was inconsistent and he failed to impose himself on games" Sounds familiar. 'Could you possibly provide some links to the relevant quotes' Quite straightforward really.
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Post by shangamuzo on Mar 18, 2019 15:25:54 GMT
So play him a full game next time and see how it goes.
My guess is he'll be effective for about 10 minutes and then go AWOL.
Lightweight, fragile and doesn't have the phisicallity for English football.
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Post by elystokie on Mar 18, 2019 15:31:24 GMT
So play him a full game next time and see how it goes. My guess is he'll be effective for about 10 minutes and then go AWOL. Lightweight, fragile and doesn't have the phisicallity for English football. Yeh, just give him the one game then we can get back to playing the players that are serving us so well at the moment cos they all only got one game to prove themselves as well. Sounds fair enough...
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Post by pottersrule on Mar 18, 2019 15:33:33 GMT
Start by googling Marca article on Bojan criticism of Guadiola.The criticism of Mark Hughes, well no I don't know how you missed that one.Then google Bojan criticism of Luis Enrique.Also an interesting article in the guardian titled where did it all go wrong for wonder kid Bojan Krikc.A very interesting piece on his stay at Roma,where he got more starts than any other player ( 33).Quote "However his form was inconsistent and he failed to impose himself on games" Sounds familiar. 'Could you possibly provide some links to the relevant quotes' Quite straightforward really. As is googling.
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Post by ursemboys on Mar 18, 2019 15:33:58 GMT
So play him a full game next time and see how it goes. My guess is he'll be effective for about 10 minutes and then go AWOL. Lightweight, fragile and doesn't have the phisicallity for English football. Yeh, just give him the one game then we can get back to playing the players that are serving us so well at the moment cos they all only got one game to prove themselves as well. Sounds fair enough... Jesus man he has had season's to prove himself and loans to Germany and Spain and still you insist he has not had a chance .
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Post by elystokie on Mar 18, 2019 15:34:17 GMT
'Could you possibly provide some links to the relevant quotes' Quite straightforward really. As is googling. You're the one making the claim.
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Post by ursemboys on Mar 18, 2019 15:36:52 GMT
So play him a full game next time and see how it goes. My guess is he'll be effective for about 10 minutes and then go AWOL. Lightweight, fragile and doesn't have the phisicallity for English football. Yeh, just give him the one game then we can get back to playing the players that are serving us so well at the moment cos they all only got one game to prove themselves as well. Sounds fair enough... Just a quick question but do you own a Stoke top with Bojans name on it and your to tight buy one with a current playing player on it . perhaps trade it in for a top with Mcclean on it at least he makes some effort
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Post by thebet365 on Mar 18, 2019 15:43:48 GMT
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Post by shangamuzo on Mar 18, 2019 15:48:00 GMT
Yeh, just give him the one game then we can get back to playing the players that are serving us so well at the moment cos they all only got one game to prove themselves as well. Sounds fair enough... Just a quick question but do you own a Stoke top with Bojans name on it and your to tight buy one with a current playing player on it . perhaps trade it in for a top with McLEAN on it at least he makes some effort Broxap was the last name on my Stoke shirt. I preferred it to bacon rashers on my back.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Mar 18, 2019 16:04:54 GMT
He wasn’t on a hiding to nothing from day 1, there was a huge amount of goodwill for him. He was on a hiding to nothing from the day he publicly threw some of the players under the bus and slating the fans. He didn't slate enough players,and slating the fans ffs sake some people are really sensitive ,good at dishing it out but don't like it back at them . Sure most ran home crying to mummy saying Garry has called us names ,not going again till he leaves You’re obviously and clearly a savant in man management and motivation so I’ll bow to your superior qualifications 🤣
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Post by harryburrows on Mar 18, 2019 17:37:02 GMT
HE'S FUCKING FINISHED THAT'S WHY!!! HOW IS HE FINISHED WHEN HE IS CONTRACTED TO US AND WE HAVE OTHER PLAYERS WHO WEEK IN WEEK OUT LOOK A LOT MORE FINISHED THAN BOJAN DOES WE'VE BEEN MISMANAGED INTO MEDIOCRITY By how many different managers ?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2019 17:49:44 GMT
That list of players unhappy with Guardiola also includes some of his most famous pupils, Xavi, Iniesta, Pique, and Messi. When Villenova passed away, the Barca president asked the players if they wanted him to return as coach. Unanimously they said, no thanks.
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Post by ursemboys on Mar 18, 2019 18:06:31 GMT
He didn't slate enough players,and slating the fans ffs sake some people are really sensitive ,good at dishing it out but don't like it back at them . Sure most ran home crying to mummy saying Garry has called us names ,not going again till he leaves You’re obviously and clearly a savant in man management and motivation so I’ll bow to your superior qualifications 🤣 So he should have cuddled up to them and told them what fantastic players they where last season ,how they only got relegated but never mind go and have a kick about on Saturday and see if you can get it out your systems .ffs sake they get paid thousands they aint 5 year olds playing in the play ground . But fans slating the manager is fine is it ?,but when he slates them back they cry about it .
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Post by ursemboys on Mar 18, 2019 18:07:40 GMT
That list of players unhappy with Guardiola also includes some of his most famous pupils, Xavi, Iniesta, Pique, and Messi. When Villenova passed away, the Barca president asked the players if they wanted him to return as coach. Unanimously they said, no thanks. So that's one manager ,what about the rest who didn't play Bojan ?
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Post by pottersrule on Mar 18, 2019 18:08:21 GMT
That list of players unhappy with Guardiola also includes some of his most famous pupils, Xavi, Iniesta, Pique, and Messi. When Villenova passed away, the Barca president asked the players if they wanted him to return as coach. Unanimously they said, no thanks. He was also critical of Luis Enrique at Roma, despite having 33 starts in a season which was more than any other player.He was inconsistent and failed to impose himself on games that does sound familiar.Also those named were a massive success under Guardiola,none left through lack of game time.
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Post by ursemboys on Mar 18, 2019 18:13:47 GMT
Just a quick question but do you own a Stoke top with Bojans name on it and your to tight buy one with a current playing player on it . perhaps trade it in for a top with McLEAN on it at least he makes some effort Broxap was the last name on my Stoke shirt. I preferred it to bacon rashers on my back. LOL That will teach me not check the spelling
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Post by wakeypotter on Mar 18, 2019 18:57:41 GMT
I was referring to the spineless toser bit. Don’t you think they are wrong words. Let’s face it most of those managers were defensive. What Pep Guardiola, Luis Enrique ,Frank De Boer and Mark Hughes were defensive? Bojan criticised all of the above in the press for being unfair to him,so there is a common theme with this player.I wonder why. I was talking about stoke managers over the last year or so.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Mar 18, 2019 19:00:41 GMT
You’re obviously and clearly a savant in man management and motivation so I’ll bow to your superior qualifications 🤣 So he should have cuddled up to them and told them what fantastic players they where last season ,how they only got relegated but never mind go and have a kick about on Saturday and see if you can get it out your systems .ffs sake they get paid thousands they aint 5 year olds playing in the play ground . But fans slating the manager is fine is it ?,but when he slates them back they cry about it . You manage in private not in public. I’m not defending a bunch of fairy players but Rowetts approach was idiotic and bound to fail.
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Post by pottersrule on Mar 18, 2019 19:02:18 GMT
What Pep Guardiola, Luis Enrique ,Frank De Boer and Mark Hughes were defensive? Bojan criticised all of the above in the press for being unfair to him,so there is a common theme with this player.I wonder why. I was talking about stoke managers over the last year or so. Hughes wasn't defensive neither was Lambert or is Jones.Rowett was the only defensive manager out of four.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Mar 18, 2019 19:03:38 GMT
That list of players unhappy with Guardiola also includes some of his most famous pupils, Xavi, Iniesta, Pique, and Messi. When Villenova passed away, the Barca president asked the players if they wanted him to return as coach. Unanimously they said, no thanks. He was also critical of Luis Enrique at Roma, despite having 33 starts in a season which was more than any other player.He was inconsistent and failed to impose himself on games that does sound familiar.Also those named were a massive success under Guardiola,none left through lack of game time. ...Bojan needs games to prove he can't impose himself on games. 33 should be plenty...and ruin any prospect of us getting promoted in the process. I'm not entirely sure when Stoke City Football Club became the Bojan Krkic Rehabiliation Society - I think I missed the announcement. It's Bojan's responsibility to force himself into the first team by demonstrating he can get stuck in in training and when he does get a run out. It isn't up to the manager to effectively field a weakened side in order to help Bojan become worth a place in the team. That's insane and unfair on the players around him,
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Mar 18, 2019 19:04:47 GMT
I was talking about stoke managers over the last year or so. Hughes wasn't defensive neither was Lambert or is Jones.Rowett was the only defensive manager out of four. Don’t necessarily disagree with your argument but Lambert not defensive, I thought he was the most defensive of the lot
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Post by pottersrule on Mar 18, 2019 19:06:04 GMT
So he should have cuddled up to them and told them what fantastic players they where last season ,how they only got relegated but never mind go and have a kick about on Saturday and see if you can get it out your systems .ffs sake they get paid thousands they aint 5 year olds playing in the play ground . But fans slating the manager is fine is it ?,but when he slates them back they cry about it . You manage in private not in public. I’m not defending a bunch of fairy players but Rowetts approach was idiotic and bound to fail. The day Rowett openly criticised players,and then made the Delap/Bojan comments he was doomed.
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