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Post by bloodtypered on Feb 10, 2019 20:18:53 GMT
Woods
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 20:19:04 GMT
He's not happy - about 1 minute 10 seconds into the interview Good interview that. Don’t disagree with any of that.
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Post by jarhead on Feb 10, 2019 20:31:11 GMT
That’s why IN TIME he will sort those wankers out.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 20:32:18 GMT
It looks as if woods was tasked with hegazy which if so is absolutely ludicrous. The bloke is a giant. Dawson pulls Baath out the situation and leaves woods completely exposed. After that you have to wonder where the hell are Vokes Indi clucas etc etc. Gayle has the run on Allen so I think he’s helpless. No fault at all with the keeper and to think otherwise is quite frankly stupid
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 10, 2019 20:32:36 GMT
He's not happy - about 1 minute 10 seconds into the interview Good interview that. Shame there wasn't a question about McClean playing up top in there though.
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Post by jarhead on Feb 10, 2019 20:35:36 GMT
On The OP it has to be Woods for the loss of possession and giving the free kick away, it’s amatuer stuff it really is.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 20:37:21 GMT
Shame there wasn't a question about McClean playing up top in there though. Genuinely think he did that for a bit of muscle and physicality against West Brom’s massive defenders. I don’t think he did it expecting him to score a load of goals. I think he plays him there to cause problems and having someone causing a nuisance of himself up front takes the pressure off what could be a relentless onslaught on the defence. Hopefully it stops and if it does then I’ll stand corrected. It’s just the only way I can rationalise it in my head.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 10, 2019 20:39:03 GMT
Shame there wasn't a question about McClean playing up top in there though. Genuinely think he did that for a bit of muscle and physicality against West Brom’s massive defenders. I don’t think he did it expecting him to score a load of goals. I think he plays him there to cause problems and having someone causing a nuisance of himself up front takes the pressure off what could be a relentless onslaught on the defence. Hopefully it stops and if it does then I’ll stand corrected. It’s just the only way I can rationalise it in my head. I'm thinking the same, he'll run all day and get stuck in, but it would be good to hear if he thinks its worked or not tbh.
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 10, 2019 20:40:32 GMT
Shame there wasn't a question about McClean playing up top in there though. He touched on it in his Radio Stoke interview. About 17 mins in... www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p06z2f7j"I'm very open-minded about the strikeforce. Berahino looked good when he came on. But you've got to do it every day, every single day. Some of them haven't been used to working hard and have been getting away with a lot of things. That doesn't happen any more"
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 20:47:30 GMT
Shame there wasn't a question about McClean playing up top in there though. Some of them haven't been used to working hard and have been getting away with a lot of things. That doesn't happen any more" I really hope he starts getting results soon to keep the loons at bay, because he really is on point. Right there in that sentence pretty much sums up why we are where we are. Something we all knew and feared deep down.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 20:48:17 GMT
Genuinely think he did that for a bit of muscle and physicality against West Brom’s massive defenders. I don’t think he did it expecting him to score a load of goals. I think he plays him there to cause problems and having someone causing a nuisance of himself up front takes the pressure off what could be a relentless onslaught on the defence. Hopefully it stops and if it does then I’ll stand corrected. It’s just the only way I can rationalise it in my head. I'm thinking the same, he'll run all day and get stuck in, but it would be good to hear if he thinks its worked or not tbh. It would. I do wonder if yesterday we weren’t AS shit as he expected and so we didn’t need it and it frustrated everybody cos it looked like more of a hinderance than a help. Again I am trying to rationalise all this so who knows. But he doesn’t strike me as an idiot and I don’t belive he thinks McClean is a striker now.
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Post by Gunslinger on Feb 10, 2019 21:05:11 GMT
Shame there wasn't a question about McClean playing up top in there though. He touched on it in his Radio Stoke interview. About 17 mins in... www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p06z2f7j"I'm very open-minded about the strikeforce. Berahino looked good when he came on. But you've got to do it every day, every single day. Some of them haven't been used to working hard and have been getting away with a lot of things. That doesn't happen any more" It seems like he has a lot to do this season... If this is correct then the next question is who allowed this to deteriorate to this level?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 10, 2019 21:07:45 GMT
"They went against what was on the whiteboard, and that won't happen again I can assure you about that" or words to that effect. Jesus christ. This group are pure poison. Simple as that. Fuck the lot of them off.
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Post by lordb on Feb 10, 2019 21:17:57 GMT
"They went against what was on the whiteboard, and that won't happen again I can assure you about that" or words to that effect. Seems to me Jones can't wait to get rid of lots of this squad.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 10, 2019 21:19:41 GMT
Shame there wasn't a question about McClean playing up top in there though. He touched on it in his Radio Stoke interview. About 17 mins in... www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p06z2f7j"I'm very open-minded about the strikeforce. Berahino looked good when he came on. But you've got to do it every day, every single day. Some of them haven't been used to working hard and have been getting away with a lot of things. That doesn't happen any more" This group of players are getting away with absolute murder.
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Post by lordb on Feb 10, 2019 21:21:32 GMT
Shame there wasn't a question about McClean playing up top in there though. He touched on it in his Radio Stoke interview. About 17 mins in... www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p06z2f7j"I'm very open-minded about the strikeforce. Berahino looked good when he came on. But you've got to do it every day, every single day. Some of them haven't been used to working hard and have been getting away with a lot of things. That doesn't happen any more" Going by that the message he is sending, especially to Berahino,is that although MacLean is not very good if you don't turn up in time and dont work hard you don't play. Afobe has to be considered as not impressing Jones either. Can't believe Diouf doesn't work hard e.t.c. For all his faults if it's attitude you want then Diouf instead of MacLean makes more sense to me?
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Post by pottersrule on Feb 10, 2019 21:59:04 GMT
Glued to his line as usual.He has become so hesitant of late and just doesn't command the box.
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Post by skelman on Feb 10, 2019 22:36:07 GMT
I think if you look at hezagi who was unmarked firstly I think it was either indi or batth. If he had of been marked the ball wouldn’t have got to gayle All down to Batth, BMI told him at least twice where Hezagi was. Correct, Batth couldn't work out what he and Clucas should do and ended up marking nobody, allowing the cross to come in.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 22:46:31 GMT
Clucas was the last man and didnt follow the West Brom player. He didnt fancy getting dirty and trying to actually defend the first ball and actually drifted away from where the ball was headed It was finger over lips and shhhhh-Clucas. He had the fucking gaul to look at the others as if they were in the wrong...
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Post by StokieBoy31 on Feb 10, 2019 22:47:25 GMT
Go back 20 seconds and I’d blame Woods for losing the ball in the first place, trying his Ronaldinho impression. But it went tits up...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 22:48:48 GMT
Glued to his line as usual.He has become so hesitant of late and just doesn't command the box. What's he supposed to do? If he steps out its a certain goal. EDIT - as soon as Hegazi gets to that ball he cant come out anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 22:55:01 GMT
It was goal straight out of Sunderland 'till I Die. Some of the goals they conceded in the documentary were horrendous, and this was up with some of those and it wasn't a pretty one to watch.
But it's been a problem for years. When did we last have any organisation at the back? It's going to take time.... and a bunch of current players are not going to be at the club in six months time - I am certain of that.
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Post by Olgrligm on Feb 10, 2019 23:59:32 GMT
"They went against what was on the whiteboard, and that won't happen again I can assure you about that" or words to that effect. Jesus christ. This group are pure poison. Simple as that. Fuck the lot of them off. I think our first attacking corner was as bad, when all but one Stoke player sauntered into the West Brom box without a care in the world. Jones was furious. I imagine he was even more furious when the players worked out who was supposed to stay back and then took a really poor, seemingly unreleased short corner.
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Post by kustokie on Feb 11, 2019 4:19:26 GMT
Have we established who was at fault for their goal yesterday? Not seen it back but at game it looked like clucas. Surely he wasnt the man tasked with marking their no26 (hegazi?) Where was butland? Gayle seemed to head it in from no more than 3 yards out? Absolutely Butland. No GK should ever allow an oppenent a free header from that range. He stood rooted to the spot and his only reaction was to point fingers to deflect attention from the fact he was at fault. He’s really starting to piss me off.
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Post by musik on Feb 11, 2019 10:10:21 GMT
Most of all the central defence of course. It shouldn't have to be Joe Allen who is fighting for his life to head it away. And we all know how "tall" he is. B.M-I should bother. And Batth.
Crosses can always come into the box, even though Clucas could have marked the man better. But he had to keep an eye on not just him. It seems to be a bit of a communication problem going on.
Brilliant free kick btw. Well practiced variant and beautifully taken.
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Post by silverdollar on Feb 11, 2019 11:00:03 GMT
Butland for me. Rooted to his line, as usual. The goal though, for me, summed up everything that is wrong with the offside rule. Gayle is yards offside as the kick is about to be taken. Because it was obvious the ball was going to the back post, and he would not be deemed to be interfering with play, the defenders have to track back quickly so that they could “attempt” to stop the second phase. OK, so we failed on that bit, but surely if you are in the penalty box you are seeking to gain an advantage, and should be offside. I know the rules are the rules, but IMO they are wrong. I totally agree with you! My initial thinking was that Gayle was in a clear offside position when the kick was taken. Because The ball was directed towards Hegazi then Gayle was deemed not to be interfering with play BUT as soon as Gayle then headed the following cross into the net he is active and should be whistled offside because he's become active and WBA have gained an unfair advantage.
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Post by silverdollar on Feb 11, 2019 11:19:34 GMT
All the so called fans who are moaning about the Stoke performance against West Bromwich need their heads looking into. Each week I am looking for improvement from our players as a team and yesterday I thought it was perhaps one of our best performances of the season. Yes there are still obvious area we need to improve on. West Brom have scored 60 goals this season and we stopped their offensive play reasonably well without just sitting back. I was very impressed with young Edwards whose crosses continually asked questions of the West Brom defence. Batth has made a notable difference to our defending and along with Vokes has given us an aerial threat on goal once more. We are probably going to finish in mid table this season which will disappoint many of our Neanderthals but considering how bad a situation our dressing room and management was I will look forward with optimism next season after another good transfer window and more time to get rid of some deadwood.
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Feb 11, 2019 11:31:02 GMT
Scholes & Cartwright.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2019 11:31:11 GMT
All the so called fans who are moaning about the Stoke performance against West Bromwich need their heads looking into. Each week I am looking for improvement from our players as a team and yesterday I thought it was perhaps one of our best performances of the season. Yes there are still obvious area we need to improve on. West Brom have scored 60 goals this season and we stopped their offensive play reasonably well without just sitting back. I was very impressed with young Edwards whose crosses continually asked questions of the West Brom defence. Batth has made a notable difference to our defending and along with Vokes has given us an aerial threat on goal once more. We are probably going to finish in mid table this season which will disappoint many of our Neanderthals but considering how bad a situation our dressing room and management was I will look forward with optimism next season after another good transfer window and more time to get rid of some deadwood. Indeed. At some point we have to move on from the past and focus on the future. Compared to West Brom away, that performance on Saturday was much better. From Preston to Hull to West Brom you cannot argue that there has not been an improvement. Baby steps but steps in the right direction :-)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2019 11:42:35 GMT
"They went against what was on the whiteboard, and that won't happen again I can assure you about that" or words to that effect. Jesus christ. This group are pure poison. Simple as that. Fuck the lot of them off. Everybody makes mistakes at some point, Jones needs to make sure they learn from them and make less mistakes in the future. I don't think they ignored his instructions on purpose.
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