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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 10, 2019 17:27:47 GMT
Have we established who was at fault for their goal yesterday?
Not seen it back but at game it looked like clucas. Surely he wasnt the man tasked with marking their no26 (hegazi?)
Where was butland? Gayle seemed to head it in from no more than 3 yards out?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 17:30:04 GMT
Have we established who was at fault for their goal yesterday? Not seen it back but at game it looked like clucas. Surely he wasnt the man tasked with marking their no26 (hegazi?) Where was butland? Gayle seemed to head it in from no more than 3 yards out? I've not seen it back but to me at the time it was looked like none of them bothered to mark Gayle. It didn't look like anyone had been assigned to him. It was really bizarre. Perhaps there was something I missed! |
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Feb 10, 2019 17:30:57 GMT
Jack.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Feb 10, 2019 17:31:51 GMT
Clucas was the last man and didnt follow the West Brom player.
He didnt fancy getting dirty and trying to actually defend the first ball and actually drifted away from where the ball was headed
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Post by wakeypotter on Feb 10, 2019 17:33:25 GMT
I think if you look at hezagi who was unmarked firstly I think it was either indi or batth. If he had of been marked the ball wouldn’t have got to gayle
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Feb 10, 2019 17:36:45 GMT
I think if you look at hezagi who was unmarked firstly I think it was either indi or batth. If he had of been marked the ball wouldn’t have got to gayle All down to Batth, BMI told him at least twice where Hezagi was. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 17:38:12 GMT
There were 2 WBA players beyond Clucas,he should have got between them and marked Hezagi and let Batth take the other one
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Post by wakeypotter on Feb 10, 2019 17:39:06 GMT
I think if you look at hezagi who was unmarked firstly I think it was either indi or batth. If he had of been marked the ball wouldn’t have got to gayle All down to Batth, BMI told him at least twice where Hezagi was. Yeh that’s true. Batth it is. |
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Feb 10, 2019 17:39:09 GMT
Whoever the new scapegoat is now Peiters has gone!!! 🙄
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 10, 2019 17:41:35 GMT
Whoever the new scapegoat is now Peiters has gone!!! 🙄 In that case its either Clucas or McClean  |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Feb 10, 2019 17:48:18 GMT
Clucas. Then Indi and jack.
For some bizarre reason we had Clucas marking Khazi. However he totally failed in that task.
Then when Khazi chipped the ball into the middle Indivwas in no mans land marking no one leaving Gayle to run in unopposed to head in. Jack was just dithering about at his near post.
We had a similar situation later on and Johnstone just stepped out and caught the ball. Easy peasy.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Feb 10, 2019 17:55:46 GMT
Whoever the new scapegoat is now Peiters has gone!!! 🙄 In that case its either Clucas or McClean Can't argue with that bozzy!!! 😕 |
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Post by nottsover60 on Feb 10, 2019 18:05:17 GMT
How about looking at how the free kick was given away? We give far too many away in dangerous areas by diving in instead of just standing up. I might be wrong but I think Woods made a terrible pass to give the ball away then Allen dived in to try and win it back.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 10, 2019 18:06:13 GMT
It's the Hegazi shit that leads to the goal. Half arsed, half hearted wankness. No leadership.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Feb 10, 2019 18:09:18 GMT
I think if you look at hezagi who was unmarked firstly I think it was either indi or batth. If he had of been marked the ball wouldn’t have got to gayle All down to Batth, BMI told him at least twice where Hezagi was. Yes Indi kept telling Batth to pick him up. Not the best start for our new defensive leader. |
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Post by Davef on Feb 10, 2019 18:11:04 GMT
It would've helped if we hadn't pathetically given away the free kick in the first place.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 18:13:03 GMT
Butland for me. Rooted to his line, as usual.
The goal though, for me, summed up everything that is wrong with the offside rule. Gayle is yards offside as the kick is about to be taken. Because it was obvious the ball was going to the back post, and he would not be deemed to be interfering with play, the defenders have to track back quickly so that they could “attempt” to stop the second phase.
OK, so we failed on that bit, but surely if you are in the penalty box you are seeking to gain an advantage, and should be offside.
I know the rules are the rules, but IMO they are wrong.
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Post by tony1234 on Feb 10, 2019 18:24:39 GMT
Team game. About 4 chances for this goal not to happen with different players.
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Post by robstokie on Feb 10, 2019 18:41:38 GMT
I think you have to look at Clucas, obviously he lost his man and whoever would have been marking Gayle or the Zone (whether you would call that Jack's area or look towards someone just being in there to sweep up, particularly considering that Jack doesn't like coming out). I think however, that NJ and his team need to take the biggest portion of the blame - it was such a predictable, poor goal to concede, just why was Clucas marking Hegazi when he is possibly their biggest threat from set pieces, surely you would put Batth or BMI in there to man mark and have the likes of Clucas or Woods to mop up the second ball in that area knowing Dwight Gayle will make that run if Hegazi wins the header
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Post by minnierover on Feb 10, 2019 18:46:02 GMT
Butland for me. Rooted to his line, as usual. The goal though, for me, summed up everything that is wrong with the offside rule. Gayle is yards offside as the kick is about to be taken. Because it was obvious the ball was going to the back post, and he would not be deemed to be interfering with play, the defenders have to track back quickly so that they could “attempt” to stop the second phase. OK, so we failed on that bit, but surely if you are in the penalty box you are seeking to gain an advantage, and should be offside. I know the rules are the rules, but IMO they are wrong. So next time we train let’s exploit this loophole, over and over and over again until we perfect it and then how about we try it next time out?? As it was clearly right off Albion’s training ground. |
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Feb 10, 2019 18:52:05 GMT
Should the guy that crossed it in not have been covered by Tom?
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Post by march4 on Feb 10, 2019 19:00:38 GMT
It was schoolboy stuff, just as all of our offensive set plays were the sort of thing you would see at playtime in a Primary school.
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Post by nutterpotter on Feb 10, 2019 19:42:19 GMT
Jones was furious in his interview after the game. Said the players didn't follow the pre-match instructions and just decided to mark whoever they wanted to.
But does seem like Bruno was trying to get Batth/Clucas to shift across and mark Hegazi.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 10, 2019 19:52:19 GMT
Jones was furious in his interview after the game. Said the players didn't follow the pre-match instructions and just decided to mark whoever they wanted to. But does seem like Bruno was trying to get Batth/Clucas to shift across and mark Hegazi. Did he really say that? |
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 10, 2019 19:53:26 GMT
Jones was furious in his interview after the game. Said the players didn't follow the pre-match instructions and just decided to mark whoever they wanted to. But does seem like Bruno was trying to get Batth/Clucas to shift across and mark Hegazi. Did he really say that? "They went against what was on the whiteboard, and that won't happen again I can assure you about that" or words to that effect. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 19:55:17 GMT
Woods for giving the ball away pathetically that let to Joe(?) making the foul that led to the free kick.
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 10, 2019 19:56:11 GMT
He's not happy - about 1 minute 10 seconds into the interview
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Post by onionman on Feb 10, 2019 20:04:44 GMT
Any idea who went against the instructions?
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Post by ohbottom on Feb 10, 2019 20:06:03 GMT
Butland for me. Rooted to his line, as usual. The goal though, for me, summed up everything that is wrong with the offside rule. Gayle is yards offside as the kick is about to be taken. Because it was obvious the ball was going to the back post, and he would not be deemed to be interfering with play, the defenders have to track back quickly so that they could “attempt” to stop the second phase. OK, so we failed on that bit, but surely if you are in the penalty box you are seeking to gain an advantage, and should be offside. I know the rules are the rules, but IMO they are wrong. The rules are the rules, everyone knows what they are, they haven't changed for yonks. The fact that Gayle was standing in such a blatantly offside position should have made it obvious to the defence that the free-kick wouldn't be going anywhere near him or the goal, and must be going out wide. Well worked training ground routine, but we were naive to say the least to fall for it. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 20:08:09 GMT
He's not happy - about 1 minute 10 seconds into the interview Good interview that. |
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