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Post by stokieinaus on Feb 11, 2019 11:47:52 GMT
Butland for me. Rooted to his line, as usual. The goal though, for me, summed up everything that is wrong with the offside rule. Gayle is yards offside as the kick is about to be taken. Because it was obvious the ball was going to the back post, and he would not be deemed to be interfering with play, the defenders have to track back quickly so that they could “attempt” to stop the second phase. OK, so we failed on that bit, but surely if you are in the penalty box you are seeking to gain an advantage, and should be offside. I know the rules are the rules, but IMO they are wrong. I totally agree with you! My initial thinking was that Gayle was in a clear offside position when the kick was taken. Because The ball was directed towards Hegazi then Gayle was deemed not to be interfering with play BUT as soon as Gayle then headed the following cross into the net he is active and should be whistled offside because he's become active and WBA have gained an unfair advantage. Glad some people see the game like me. You are either off side or not, can’t understand this bullshit he’s not interfering with play. He would not have been in that poison so easily if he hadn’t been offside in the first place. The rules that are made in this game now are all about corruption nothing else
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Post by JoeinOz on Feb 11, 2019 11:56:00 GMT
Everyone was at fault for it really. It was emblematic of a team full of gormlessness.
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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 11, 2019 12:02:11 GMT
When you watch the highlights it looks to me like Batth is trying to tell MCClean to mark Hegazi, but again McClean is too slow to react.
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Post by elystokie on Feb 11, 2019 12:14:26 GMT
Clucas was the last man and didnt follow the West Brom player. He didnt fancy getting dirty and trying to actually defend the first ball and actually drifted away from where the ball was headed He's come from one side of the penalty area to the other then hasn't even bothered trying to mark the player he's made the journey to mark! Then when he's finally realised what's going on the 'waving of his foot at thin air' is one of the most pathetic attempts at stopping a cross I've ever seen. I think the real Clucas is sunning himself somewhere nice whilst this lookalike makes him look a twat.
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Post by pez75 on Feb 11, 2019 12:16:51 GMT
When you watch the highlights it looks to me like Batth is trying to tell MCClean to mark Hegazi, but again McClean is too slow to react. You need your eyes testing. McClean is at fault for a lot of things but he was nowhere near this incident. Batth and Clucas are 'marking' the two players on the left. BMI clearly tells Batth to pick up Hegazi more than once (this will have been the 'whiteboard incident' that Jones spoke of I am sure - big CH v big CH on set pieces) and he clearly ignores him and marks space instead. After the goal both Clucas & BMI had a moan at Batth... Woods should take some of the blame as well for giving the ball away under no pressure which ultimately led to the free-kick.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 11, 2019 12:16:59 GMT
When you watch the highlights it looks to me like Batth is trying to tell MCClean to mark Hegazi, but again McClean is too slow to react. That was Clucas Rob.
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Post by OldStokie on Feb 11, 2019 12:17:44 GMT
The blame can be squarely placed on two things... the stupid offside rule that allows a player to blatantly stand in an offside position and then score a goal when it's obvious that the phase of play was still active. Free kick - man on the back post heads it back - man who stood in an offside position heads it in. Three touches. How can that NOT be one active state of play?
The 2nd reason is that Baath completly ignored Bruno telling him repeatedly that they had a spare man at the back post. One of the most succesful moves in football is to send a free kick in to a man at the back post, who then nods the ball back into the goalmouth where an attacker has a better chance of heading it in than defenders have of clearing it. It's schoolboy stuff and just because Baath is captain shouldn't be an excuse to not listen to an experienced pro beside him. Let's hope Baath learns from it.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Feb 11, 2019 12:44:59 GMT
Think of the fuss if that had been Ryan ignoring Hegazi. Even if Clucas has sauntered over to mark Hegazi, he would have at least forced him to attempt to head it as opposed to sidefooting it straight to Gayle.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2019 12:46:56 GMT
He's not happy - about 1 minute 10 seconds into the interview Great interview. If we want some decent attacking football it takes time, if not then he'll buy a couple of giants and we'll load it into the box
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Post by stokeson on Feb 11, 2019 13:03:03 GMT
When you watch the highlights it looks to me like Batth is trying to tell MCClean to mark Hegazi, but again McClean is too slow to react. You need your eyes testing. McClean is at fault for a lot of things but he was nowhere near this incident. Batth and Clucas are 'marking' the two players on the left. BMI clearly tells Batth to pick up Hegazi more than once (this will have been the 'whiteboard incident' that Jones spoke of I am sure - big CH v big CH on set pieces) and he clearly ignores him and marks space instead. After the goal both Clucas & BMI had a moan at Batth... Woods should take some of the blame as well for giving the ball away under no pressure which ultimately led to the free-kick. Cant be Batth Jones signed him its got to be Mc Clean a Rowett signing.....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2019 13:05:05 GMT
Have we established who was at fault for their goal yesterday? Not seen it back but at game it looked like clucas. Surely he wasnt the man tasked with marking their no26 (hegazi?) Where was butland? Gayle seemed to head it in from no more than 3 yards out? Definitely you. You were no-fucking-where to be seen. Might as well have been sat in the bloody stands.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2019 13:09:24 GMT
Honestly I was expecting Gayle and Rodriguez to tear us a new one in open play on Saturday. We’ve conceded a goal from a fuck up on a well rehearsed West Brom free kick and 3 days and 3 pages of thread later there’s still a witch hunt for the culprit.
We really do need to get a grip now.
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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 11, 2019 15:58:39 GMT
When you watch the highlights it looks to me like Batth is trying to tell MCClean to mark Hegazi, but again McClean is too slow to react. You need your eyes testing. McClean is at fault for a lot of things but he was nowhere near this incident. Batth and Clucas are 'marking' the two players on the left. BMI clearly tells Batth to pick up Hegazi more than once (this will have been the 'whiteboard incident' that Jones spoke of I am sure - big CH v big CH on set pieces) and he clearly ignores him and marks space instead. After the goal both Clucas & BMI had a moan at Batth... Woods should take some of the blame as well for giving the ball away under no pressure which ultimately led to the free-kick. My mistake, but they look very similar from distance. Anyway very poor from Clucas then!
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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 11, 2019 15:59:36 GMT
When you watch the highlights it looks to me like Batth is trying to tell MCClean to mark Hegazi, but again McClean is too slow to react. That was Clucas Rob. My mistake!
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Feb 11, 2019 16:05:37 GMT
Have we established who was at fault for their goal yesterday? Not seen it back but at game it looked like clucas. Surely he wasnt the man tasked with marking their no26 (hegazi?) Where was butland? Gayle seemed to head it in from no more than 3 yards out? Not directly obviously but I blame carto and scholes. Their toxicity has infected absolutely everywhere in relation to our once wonderful club.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Feb 11, 2019 16:10:48 GMT
Have we established who was at fault for their goal yesterday? Not seen it back but at game it looked like clucas. Surely he wasnt the man tasked with marking their no26 (hegazi?) Where was butland? Gayle seemed to head it in from no more than 3 yards out? Not directly obviously but I blame carto and scholes. Their toxicity has infected absolutely everywhere in relation to our once wonderful club. Thought you might somehow
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Feb 11, 2019 16:17:28 GMT
Not directly obviously but I blame carto and scholes. Their toxicity has infected absolutely everywhere in relation to our once wonderful club. Thought you might somehow Maybe try Carto up front next game and lets see if for once he can actually achieve something because I am scratching my head to think about anything he has done in the last 3 years. Or stick him in goal so there's less goal for the opposition to aim at.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2019 16:20:57 GMT
Have we established who was at fault for their goal yesterday? Not seen it back but at game it looked like clucas. Surely he wasnt the man tasked with marking their no26 (hegazi?) Where was butland? Gayle seemed to head it in from no more than 3 yards out? Not directly obviously but I blame carto and scholes. Their toxicity has infected absolutely everywhere in relation to our once wonderful club. 😂😂😂😂
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Post by jarvinski on Feb 11, 2019 17:06:53 GMT
The bloody captain, for letting Allen mark Gayle
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