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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2019 17:31:43 GMT
The most ridiculous argument ever. What's the point of debating football if you believe every manager 'knows best'? Not suggesting every manager knows best, they clearly make mistakes. But I’ve seen comments like “McClean is no better than League 1” which, given he’s spent his whole career in the top 2 flights in England and has an international career, is laughable. To suggest that McClean is not good enough for this division, even though every coach and manager that he’s ever worked under thinks otherwise, is to suggest that every coach and manager he’s ever worked under has been wrong and some of our fans are right. Which is hugely unlikely. He must have some qualities that make him worth signing, especially given the baggage he comes with, don’t you think? Well if you can't name a single one of those qualities, who can?
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Post by clarkeda on Aug 5, 2019 20:34:34 GMT
Wouldn’t be the worst stop gap in the world. Would have preferred him to ward.
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Post by wearepremierleague on Aug 5, 2019 20:39:15 GMT
Wouldn’t be the worst stop gap in the world. Would have preferred him to ward. The problem is. And the thing I can’t understand the most is we shouldn’t be needing to sign a make do to play the most important role in this formation. Both Luton full backs have been snapped up by Premier League clubs. One of ours isn’t a full back, the other failed at Premier league level. Baffling
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Post by cransonshead on Aug 8, 2019 10:17:33 GMT
Assuming signing a left back is dead then and we go with mcclean and clucas i really hope not...
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 8, 2019 10:40:56 GMT
Assuming signing a left back is dead then and we go with mcclean and clucas i really hope not... Don't forget Ward it's fucking frightening the only proper LB we have is a friggin pensioner, FFS Jones are you blind.
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Post by supacoopa101 on Aug 8, 2019 10:42:56 GMT
A Left Back?
What's one of them again?
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Post by supacoopa101 on Aug 8, 2019 10:44:37 GMT
Assuming signing a left back is dead then and we go with mcclean and clucas i really hope not... Oh mate it is happening. Going into the season without an athletic and natural left back. This WILL come back to bite Nathan in the ass.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2019 10:46:07 GMT
Assuming signing a left back is dead then and we go with mcclean and clucas i really hope not... Oh mate it is happening. Going into the season without an athletic and natural left back. This WILL come back to bite Nathan in the ass. Both of those players are athletic, the former definitely not natural. Clucas should be perfect, he's played there loads before and he played winger too so it makes sense...
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Post by supacoopa101 on Aug 8, 2019 10:51:16 GMT
Oh mate it is happening. Going into the season without an athletic and natural left back. This WILL come back to bite Nathan in the ass. Both of those players are athletic, the former definitely not natural. Clucas should be perfect, he's played there loads before and he played winger too so it makes sense... I have no faith in Clucas at all. He does not have the athleticism and stamina to constantly get up and down that pitch which the diamond system requires to be successful. Ward is natural but he's 34 no chance he would be able to do it for a full 90 minutes. I'm hoping I get proved wrong but the evidence is there in black and white.
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Post by questionable on Aug 8, 2019 11:01:23 GMT
If an average team like QPR can exploit the glaringly inept JM then it’s time to pack in, his performance on Saturday reminded me of a carrier bag I watched blowing up and down the pitch a few seasons ago, blows about a lot but not much use on a football pitch.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 8, 2019 11:12:26 GMT
Out of McClean, Ward and Clucas I'd choose Clucas every time.
I actually think he'd be decent there.
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Post by eebygum on Aug 8, 2019 11:24:04 GMT
I'm genuinely not sure what's worse; the fact that James McClean could be our starting LB in a formation where the full backs are absolutely pivotal to its success, or the amount of Stoke fans that are accepting/approving of it. It's insane. He's one of the worst footballers I have ever seen in a Stoke shirt in terms of technical ability - and that's some statement. Football, like anything, is all about opinions. Mine personally is as above, he's garbage, but the only real weight you could add to either argument would be to look at his stats across his career... they're abysmal. He doesn't score goals and he doesn't get assists. If you put a Jack Russell in a Stoke shirt it will run around for 90 minutes. Who's dis jack russell lad?
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Post by berahinosgoals on Aug 8, 2019 11:33:29 GMT
Out of McClean, Ward and Clucas I'd choose Clucas every time. I actually think he'd be decent there. Agree, clucas is the insurance policy and it's why we wont buy one this window
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Post by lordb on Aug 8, 2019 11:43:48 GMT
Out of McClean, Ward and Clucas I'd choose Clucas every time. I actually think he'd be decent there. He is he's had a couple of good games in midfield but too many average ones & some stinkers left back he's been good each time having said all that we don't know what Ward is going to be like everyone, me included, has assumed he's too old but lets see
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Post by rambo61 on Aug 8, 2019 16:39:45 GMT
If this means Maclean is our starter we're in trouble. He isnt a left back...end of!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2019 16:40:25 GMT
Moan, moan, moan.
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Post by stokest5 on Aug 8, 2019 16:41:28 GMT
If we got a left back people would moan he’s too left footed 🤣
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2019 16:50:06 GMT
Out of McClean, Ward and Clucas I'd choose Clucas every time. I actually think he'd be decent there. He doesn't want to be decent there...
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Post by stokecakesandcheese on Aug 8, 2019 16:55:57 GMT
Out of McClean, Ward and Clucas I'd choose Clucas every time. I actually think he'd be decent there. He doesn't want to be decent there... Clucas is an embarrassment of a football player. Only place for Him should be left back on the bench
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Post by franklin66 on Aug 8, 2019 16:57:33 GMT
He doesn't want to be decent there... Clucas is an embarrassment of a football player. Only place for Him should be left back on the bench Sorry but that's wrong.
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Post by stokecakesandcheese on Aug 8, 2019 17:02:47 GMT
Clucas is an embarrassment of a football player. Only place for Him should be left back on the bench Sorry but that's wrong. I may be wrong but was it derby where clucas played left back last season? He had an absolute stormer, proving potential is there. Other than that, like many others, i can count on one hand the amount of decent games he’s had. His performances post Derby (if correct) have been horrendous. One of my worst players last season.
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Post by franklin66 on Aug 8, 2019 17:07:23 GMT
I may be wrong but was it derby where clucas played left back last season? He had an absolute stormer, proving potential is there. Other than that, like many others, i can count on one hand the amount of decent games he’s had. His performances post Derby (if correct) have been horrendous. One of my worst players last season. Sorry I must have missed something you've just said he was an embarrassment of a footballer but then he had a stormed which is?
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Post by stokecakesandcheese on Aug 8, 2019 17:10:21 GMT
I may be wrong but was it derby where clucas played left back last season? He had an absolute stormer, proving potential is there. Other than that, like many others, i can count on one hand the amount of decent games he’s had. His performances post Derby (if correct) have been horrendous. One of my worst players last season. Sorry I must have missed something you've just said he was an embarrassment of a footballer but then he had a stormed which is? He had one stormer, sorry my bad. Due to that ‘one’ game my opinion of him being an embarrassment is contradictory. Wet wipe
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Post by franklin66 on Aug 8, 2019 17:11:34 GMT
Sorry I must have missed something you've just said he was an embarrassment of a footballer but then he had a stormed which is? He had one stormer, sorry my bad. Due to that ‘one’ game my opinion of him being an embarrassment is contradictory. Wet wipe 😂 grow up sonny.
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Post by stokecakesandcheese on Aug 8, 2019 17:12:35 GMT
He had one stormer, sorry my bad. Due to that ‘one’ game my opinion of him being an embarrassment is contradictory. Wet wipe 😂 grow up sonny. Wow. Well played my friend. Well played
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Post by Northy on Aug 8, 2019 17:14:37 GMT
Out of McClean, Ward and Clucas I'd choose Clucas every time. I actually think he'd be decent there. Did you see his attemp to try and stope Eze for QPRs 2nd goal, 'shudders'
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Post by franklin66 on Aug 8, 2019 17:15:44 GMT
Wow. Well played my friend. Well played Lol you really don't read your own posts do you I quote "theres potential there" "he had a stormer" " he's an embarrassment of a footballer" And I'm a wet wipe 🤣🤣🤣
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Post by stokecakesandcheese on Aug 8, 2019 17:21:08 GMT
Wow. Well played my friend. Well played Lol you really don't read your own posts do you I quote "theres potential there" "he had a stormer" " he's an embarrassment of a footballer" And I'm a wet wipe 🤣🤣🤣 Again, and I quote ‘He had a stormer against one team, proving potential is there’ Post ‘Having a stormer, against that one team’ He’s been an embarrassment with his performances. There you go Mr Well Played, put it in format for you so don’t have to nit pick and make it seem like I’m contradicting myself.
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Post by franklin66 on Aug 8, 2019 17:22:14 GMT
Lol you really don't read your own posts do you I quote "theres potential there" "he had a stormer" " he's an embarrassment of a footballer" And I'm a wet wipe 🤣🤣🤣 Again, and I quote ‘He had a stormer against one team, proving potential is there’ Post ‘Having a stormer, against that one team’ He’s been an embarrassment with his performances. There you go Mr Well Played, put it in format for you so don’t have to nit pick and make it seem like I’m contradicting myself. Lol not only daft but angry too 🙄
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Post by stokecakesandcheese on Aug 8, 2019 17:26:44 GMT
Again, and I quote ‘He had a stormer against one team, proving potential is there’ Post ‘Having a stormer, against that one team’ He’s been an embarrassment with his performances. There you go Mr Well Played, put it in format for you so don’t have to nit pick and make it seem like I’m contradicting myself. Lol not only daft but angry too 🙄 Well played sir, again.
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