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Post by adi on Jan 20, 2019 11:30:45 GMT
Not in the slightest. They film for public safety and it’s a tried and tested means of keeping the peace and stopping the idiots from being able to offend again. My questions to you are: what are you going to do, as the filming clearly bothers you, to find answers to these questions? And second, will it affect your attendance at football matches? Where is your evidence for it being a tried and tested means of keeping the peace? I'm not going to do anything but if the camera was shoved in my beak, I would certainly pose all of the above questions to the amateur voyeur film maker and demand the answers. Do you care about anything? Yes I care about lots of things, what a weird question! 😂 Like I thought, you’ll do nothing about it same as the rest on here moaning.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 20, 2019 11:30:57 GMT
I think common sense ensures that if they think they're being filmed they're far more likely to not do something silly which can only be a good thing. I think it's a little paranoid to think that if there's not been any trouble or anything been reported Police will be scrutinizing 100's of minutes of footage without purpose. It's there to protect the innocent not punish them.
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Post by adi on Jan 20, 2019 11:33:43 GMT
I think common sense ensures that if they think they're being filmed they're far more likely to not do something silly which can only be a good thing. I think it's a little paranoid to think that if there's not been any trouble or anything been reported Police will be scrutinizing 100's of minutes of footage without purpose. It's there to protect the innocent not punish them. Stop using common sense. Can’t you see we should be outraged?! 😅
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 20, 2019 11:34:12 GMT
Where is your evidence for it being a tried and tested means of keeping the peace? I'm not going to do anything but if the camera was shoved in my beak, I would certainly pose all of the above questions to the amateur voyeur film maker and demand the answers. Do you care about anything? Yes I care about lots of things, what a weird question! 😂 Like I thought, you’ll do nothing about it same as the rest on here moaning. I wasn't filmed so what exactly do you want me to do? I do care about things that are not directly related to my personal existence though and can voice an opinion on them. I certainly don't want to live in the sap laden subservient world you do seem to desire.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 20, 2019 11:35:00 GMT
It's there to protect the innocent not punish them. What a quaint view of the world
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 20, 2019 11:36:09 GMT
Not in the slightest. They film for public safety and it’s a tried and tested means of keeping the peace and stopping the idiots from being able to offend again. My questions to you are: what are you going to do, as the filming clearly bothers you, to find answers to these questions? And second, will it affect your attendance at football matches? Where is your evidence for it being a tried and tested means of keeping the peace? I'm not going to do anything but if the camera was shoved in my beak, I would certainly pose all of the above questions to the amateur voyeur film maker and demand the answers. Do you care about anything? you are right in that whoever's "wielding" the camera needs to do it in a sensible way and not walk around like they own the world but that's down to the individual I guess. I guess if they're videoing though then the evidence should be there on how they dealt with their job and everyone has a right to complain. I think unless you were at the incident it's difficult to be certain of the facts.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 20, 2019 11:38:43 GMT
It's there to protect the innocent not punish them. What a quaint view of the world Life's a lot easier from a quaint point of view. Things like that just don't bother me that's all. I've been to 100's of games and I've never had one issue. I think I must just be in a world of my own.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Jan 20, 2019 11:38:45 GMT
If I just started filming people and saying it was for their safety, I'd expect a smack in the teeth, or the police being called on me. If I put on a hi-viz jacket though and did the exact same thing, I'd have people consenting and even defeding me for doing it. It's really creepy. “taking photographs or video footage in public places is not illegal unless it is for criminal or terrorist purposes.” Again it’s legal and let’s face it you’re not going to do anything about it bar moaning on The Oatcake. 😂 You keep banging this drum about "you're not going to do anything about it" like some deranged maniac like it a) is relevant in any way at all, b) makes your other authoritarian bilge somehow a decent point, and c) like you have the faintest idea about anything to do with me at all, you have no idea about anything I do or do not do with my life. I'd love to film you sometime though, hopefully you can PM me your details and I can follow you around with a camera for a few hours? You don't seem to have any problem with it, so I look forward to your message.
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Post by adi on Jan 20, 2019 11:45:34 GMT
Yes I care about lots of things, what a weird question! 😂 Like I thought, you’ll do nothing about it same as the rest on here moaning. I wasn't filmed so what exactly do you want me to do? I do care about things that are not directly related to my personal existence though and can voice an opinion on them. I certainly don't want to live in the sap laden subservient world you do seem to desire. Don’t end it all! 😂
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Post by adi on Jan 20, 2019 11:47:40 GMT
“taking photographs or video footage in public places is not illegal unless it is for criminal or terrorist purposes.” Again it’s legal and let’s face it you’re not going to do anything about it bar moaning on The Oatcake. 😂 You keep banging this drum about "you're not going to do anything about it" like some deranged maniac like it a) is relevant in any way at all, b) makes your other authoritarian bilge somehow a decent point, and c) like you have the faintest idea about anything to do with me at all, you have no idea about anything I do or do not do with my life. I'd love to film you sometime though, hopefully you can PM me your details and I can follow you around with a camera for a few hours? You don't seem to have any problem with it, so I look forward to your message. Feel free. I’ll be there on Saturday so feel free to do the exact thing you despise 😂
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Post by adi on Jan 20, 2019 11:51:20 GMT
So from the sensible folk on here I should be followed around and filmed and I don’t care about anything. That’s some logic!
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Jan 20, 2019 12:01:18 GMT
So from the sensible folk on here I should be followed around and filmed and I don’t care about anything. That’s some logic! As much logic as "Well they do it anyway so there's nothing you can do about it".
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Post by A-teen_six_T3 on Jan 20, 2019 12:06:24 GMT
Id be happy to follow Adi around to sticking my camera phone in his face for a couple of hours
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Post by adi on Jan 20, 2019 12:07:38 GMT
Id be happy to follow Adi around to sticking my camera phone in his face for a couple of hours I bet you would 😃
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Post by adi on Jan 20, 2019 12:07:53 GMT
So from the sensible folk on here I should be followed around and filmed and I don’t care about anything. That’s some logic! As much logic as "Well they do it anyway so there's nothing you can do about it". But it’s true 🙂
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Post by leicspotter on Jan 20, 2019 17:44:11 GMT
Surely Brentford stewards and local police are aware that Stoke hooligans always film themselves when they get up to mischief, so they have no need for their own filming ...just look on you tube
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Post by wilcopotter on Jan 20, 2019 20:34:25 GMT
Personally, I don’t give a shit who films me at a football match. We’re all fined in shopping malls, the street, from buildings etc. So what difference does a football ground make. Bottom line for me is, you can film me until the cows come home. Why? Because I’m not going to cause any bother to anybody, so I’ve got nothing to worry about. However, if the filming deters those that might, then filming is fine by me. Of course, those that might may have a completely different opinion.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 20, 2019 20:54:26 GMT
Personally, I don’t give a shit who films me at a football match. We’re all fined in shopping malls, the street, from buildings etc. So what difference does a football ground make. Bottom line for me is, you can film me until the cows come home. Why? Because I’m not going to cause any bother to anybody, so I’ve got nothing to worry about. However, if the filming deters those that might, then filming is fine by me. Of course, those that might may have a completely different opinion. Spot on. There's a big difference between the police/Shops etc filming a group or specific incident for a reason and a person / group of youths following someone else around for no reason whatsoever other than to be a nuisance like those often on Youtube who think they're experts on everything, mainly because no one can reply to their ramblings.
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