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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jan 24, 2019 11:51:06 GMT
No need for 2 spinners,Broad would have been a better choice than Rashid.
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Post by thequietman on Jan 24, 2019 12:31:33 GMT
Jimmy’s reminding me of Glenn McGrath before his injury at Edgbaston in 2005, virtually impossible to score a run off, pinpoint accurate, getting big wickets late on in the day. If you cut out those first 20 tests or so before he really settled on an action and bowling role (Swing as oppose to pace) his average would be signifcantly lower than it already is. I could be wrong (as I often am) but I thought it was over-coaching that mucked Jimmy about in his early career. He was pacey but coaches changed his action trying to get more out of him & caused him a lot of back issues.
He came back with a lower pace, different action & began to learn the art of swing - which he's improved upon thoughout his career since to be the #1 swing bowler in the world for several years. And still is. All my opinion, of course.
I can half see why they picked Rashid - a leggie who can turn a ball on pretty much any surface, and every ball is a potential wicket-taker. Maybe not to his credit that quite a number of his wickets come off shocking deliveries but, hey, it works & batsmen keep getting out to him.
Still very harsh on Leach, though, he's a much better bowler than Moeen.
I'm sure Broad would have played instead of Rashid if he hadn't reported in with bed-bug bites!
Not seen any of the play yet. Friday & Saturday nights I've forewarned Mrs Q that I'll be watching the game upstairs.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jan 24, 2019 15:58:09 GMT
Jennings yet a other failure. When going out to bat,someone was putting the kettle on and asked Jennings did he takes milk and sugar.
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Post by sheds1862 on Jan 24, 2019 16:06:14 GMT
Jennings yer another failure. When going out to bat,someone was putting the kettle on and asked Jennings did he take milk and sugar. Another in a long line of wannabe openers who have all in the main failed to nail down a place
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Post by claytonscrubs on Jan 24, 2019 16:23:10 GMT
England have a big hole to fill when Jimmy hangs up his boots.... 1st Innings Stats - Overs 30 Runs 46 Wickets 5 Econ 1.53 Wow!
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Post by partickpotter on Jan 24, 2019 17:00:48 GMT
Well, that's me back home from work and settling down to watch some cricket.
Switch on the telly just in time to see our third wicket fall: 44-3.
Some things never change...
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Post by chuckrocky on Jan 24, 2019 17:11:14 GMT
Well, that's me back home from work and settling down to watch some cricket. Switch on the telly just in time to see our third wicket fall: 44-3. Some things never change... You’ll be watching us have a bowl at this rate. Let’s hope the lower order can dig us out of another mess.
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Post by partickpotter on Jan 24, 2019 17:15:35 GMT
Well, that's me back home from work and settling down to watch some cricket. Switch on the telly just in time to see our third wicket fall: 44-3. Some things never change... You’ll be watching us have a bowl at this rate. Let’s hope the lower order can dig us out of another mess. Assuming the Windies don't enforce the follow on!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2019 17:23:10 GMT
Our top order really is consistently abysmal. Why the hell do the selectors persist with Jennings ?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2019 17:32:19 GMT
Bloody hell 48-6 !
Simply diabolical performance
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Post by chuckrocky on Jan 24, 2019 17:34:52 GMT
Our top order really is consistently abysmal. Why the hell do the selectors persist with Jennings ? Problem is there just isn’t anyone else banging on the door. Burns has been one of the best openers on the county circuit over the past couple of years but even he looks out of his depth at Test level. Jennings has a first class average of less than 40 so should never have been selected in the first place.
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Post by partickpotter on Jan 24, 2019 17:37:02 GMT
Now I get the Curran selection... We knew we'd need him at #9 to help get us past the follow on. 49-7
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2019 17:38:38 GMT
Now I get the Curran selection... We knew we'd need him at #9 to help get us past the follow on. 49-7 I can't believe what I'm seeing ! So our "batsmen" have scored : 2-17-12-4-0-4-0 Good job there are 10 extras in our total !
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jan 24, 2019 17:43:37 GMT
If they make us follow on,then we bat shite again,this could be an innings defeat inside 3 days.
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Post by partickpotter on Jan 24, 2019 17:48:55 GMT
Now I get the Curran selection... We knew we'd need him at #9 to help get us past the follow on. 49-7 I can't believe what I'm seeing ! So our "batsmen" have scored : 2-17-12-4-0-4-0 Good job there are 10 extras in our total ! Even more incredible - Keaton Jennings is our top scorer!!!
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Post by partickpotter on Jan 24, 2019 17:50:04 GMT
If they make us follow on,then we bat shite again,this could be an innings defeat inside 3 days. We're not yet into the final session of the day. Maybe we can finish this inside two days.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jan 24, 2019 17:52:44 GMT
It seems every time we tour the West Indies,we suffer at least one batting nightmare.
47 all out. 51 all out. Now again today.
61-8. England would have trouble batting an eyelid today.
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Post by partickpotter on Jan 24, 2019 17:59:36 GMT
It seems every time we tour the West Indies,we suffer at least one batting nightmare. 47 all out. 51 all out. Now again today. 61-8. England would have trouble batting an eyelid today. I'm not sure that is the batting consistency England assure us they are striving for.
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Post by partickpotter on Jan 24, 2019 18:31:31 GMT
You’ll be watching us have a bowl at this rate. Let’s hope the lower order can dig us out of another mess. Assuming the Windies don't enforce the follow on!!!! That was supposed to be a bit of black humour!
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Post by sheds1862 on Jan 24, 2019 18:39:28 GMT
Garner, Marshall et Al i could understand it but this current Windies team are poor, didn't Bangladesh beat them recently in a test series ? Amazing collapse.
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Post by lordb on Jan 24, 2019 18:57:20 GMT
Jesus H Christ.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jan 24, 2019 19:10:40 GMT
I haven't seen or heard any of the test, yet, so has the Windies bowling been good, or the batting bad?
What kind of pitch is it etc.?
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Post by Squeekster on Jan 24, 2019 19:24:27 GMT
I know now why Bruce isn't taking over at Sheff weds now till feb he's in the West indies for the cricket.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Jan 24, 2019 20:39:52 GMT
The Windies 5 down with Heymyer at the crease.
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Post by partickpotter on Jan 24, 2019 21:39:11 GMT
Well, that was an interesting day!
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Jan 24, 2019 21:43:18 GMT
Just the 18 wickets today...
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Post by lordb on Jan 24, 2019 22:04:27 GMT
Should get good odds on getting this to four days. Big year for England has started horrendously.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2019 22:04:33 GMT
Pathetic performance with the bat.
Looks like we've got to win the next two tests to win the series. Hopefully the team selection will be better.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jan 25, 2019 7:06:43 GMT
1.Broad must play in the next test. 2.Jennings needs replacing with a cardboard cut out. 3.If they can't get a cardboard cut out of Jennings,Root must bat at 3.
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Post by partickpotter on Jan 25, 2019 10:43:52 GMT
1.Broad must play in the next test. 2.Jennings needs replacing with a cardboard cut out. 3.If they can't get a cardboard cut out of Jennings,Root must bat at 3. You are proposing we replace our leading run scorer in this series with a cardboard cut out? Insanity. 😂
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