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Post by gingerninja on Dec 30, 2018 22:22:16 GMT
Given the current level of vitirol towards him and his tactics at the moment is there any way back for him?
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 30, 2018 22:24:10 GMT
Once the players get wind of a manager under pressure they will down tools. It's happening at Forest right now.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2018 22:26:51 GMT
Given the current level of vitirol towards him and his tactics at the moment is there any way back for him? 5 wins in January and getting his team to play with some sort of intensity and creativity in the final third of the pitch should do it. |
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Post by daveandeddy on Dec 30, 2018 22:30:14 GMT
We pretty much know what he thinks of Bauer and Bojan but when he had a sly dig at Edwards on Saturday I personally think the players will feel none of them are safe from being thrown under the bus by him
It should be sooner rather than later and I just hope our owners are not held back by the finances of getting rid and are busy ( if they haven't been already) on a next appointment
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Post by cobhamstokey on Dec 30, 2018 22:33:26 GMT
We pretty much know what he thinks of Bauer and Bojan but when he had a sly dig at Edwards on Saturday I personally think the players will feel none of them are safe from being thrown under the bus by him It should be sooner rather than later and I just hope our owners are not held back by the finances of getting rid and are busy ( if they haven't been already) on a next appointment What did he say about Edwards? |
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Post by jzime on Dec 30, 2018 22:43:18 GMT
In all reality, there is a way back for him. Like it or not, I strongly suspect that the board aren't going to sack him anytime soon. If we go on a good run over the next two months and are with a realistic shout of the playoffs by March/April time, people will get behind him again.
Not saying I think that's likely to happen. But hypothetically, yes, there is always a way back for a manager who isn't going anywhere.
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Post by Gods on Dec 30, 2018 22:51:00 GMT
He's lost 2 of the last 16 both against Birmingham City.
If he is not sacked this week (which he won't be) then he is here for the January window.
If he is here for the January window then he's here for the season for better or worse. We're not stupid enough to give him the Jan window and sack him in Feb.
I'm not rejoicing in this situation, I don't much like the cut of his jib, merely saying he doesn't need a way back, the current default position is he remains.
And meantime we all need to pray that we can turn a few more of these draws, which are just killing us, in to wins.
Anyone who thinks he is about to be sacked could be very disappointed I suspect.
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Post by stokeson on Dec 30, 2018 22:52:36 GMT
More Knob talking. Hes going to be here next season (in the prem.)
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Dec 30, 2018 22:55:14 GMT
More Knob talking. Hes going to be here next season (in the prem.) WUM |
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Post by Davef on Dec 30, 2018 22:55:26 GMT
Hurrah. Another Gary Rowett thread.
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Dec 30, 2018 22:57:23 GMT
As with TP season ticket sales will do for Rowett around the end of March when we have no chance of promotion and are playing to 15k fans.
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Post by brinsleymaclagan on Dec 30, 2018 23:05:26 GMT
We pretty much know what he thinks of Bauer and Bojan but when he had a sly dig at Edwards on Saturday I personally think the players will feel none of them are safe from being thrown under the bus by him It should be sooner rather than later and I just hope our owners are not held back by the finances of getting rid and are busy ( if they haven't been already) on a next appointment He was also reluctant to praise Jack for two saves which were described as “world class” by Radio Stoke commentators. He is just a knob, and we deserve better. |
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Post by dano75 on Dec 30, 2018 23:19:26 GMT
👎 he’s toast fucked it right up
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Post by jontimmis on Dec 30, 2018 23:28:10 GMT
As with TP season ticket sales will do for Rowett around the end of March when we have no chance of promotion and are playing to 15k fans. Agree whole heartedly with this. The fans regardless expected us to be pushing for promotion. The Leeds game was a massive thump, but we probably expected to be there at Xmas top 4/5! We are not. Season ticket sales will be affected no two ways about it... The board made it clear on our objective a return immediately.... well maybe the fans should make it clear! |
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Post by daveandeddy on Dec 30, 2018 23:29:35 GMT
We pretty much know what he thinks of Bauer and Bojan but when he had a sly dig at Edwards on Saturday I personally think the players will feel none of them are safe from being thrown under the bus by him It should be sooner rather than later and I just hope our owners are not held back by the finances of getting rid and are busy ( if they haven't been already) on a next appointment What did he say about Edwards? Cobham Apologies at my age you tend to forget the exact words but how I perceived it was that Edwards had done "ok" but made a few mistakes.... He certainly wasn't gushing with praise I assume that probably means Martina back on Tuesday who shouldnt (in my opinion) be holding down a spot in the match day squad Managers have to get the best out of a business's assets He clearly has his own favourites and you cannot tell me his handling of the squad has been consistant |
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Post by daveandeddy on Dec 30, 2018 23:35:53 GMT
As with TP season ticket sales will do for Rowett around the end of March when we have no chance of promotion and are playing to 15k fans. Agree whole heartedly with this. The fans regardless expected us to be pushing for promotion. The Leeds game was a massive thump, but we probably expected to be there at Xmas top 4/5! We are not. Season ticket sales will be affected no two ways about it... The board made it clear on our objective a return immediately.... well maybe the fans should make it clear! Too late though Whilst we still have a chance we need to act now Our squad next year will be weakened and our ability to act likewise You will not be watching Butland ( he was brilliant keeping the back pass out v Millwall and the 2 saves on Saturday) or we would only be looking at 1 point over the last 3 games Joe Allen..... don't think so Bauer ..... already gone as far as Rowett is concerned Bojan and Adam .... the same ..can we afford to letc 2 creative back up players go right now? If we dither we could be heading for another 23 years away from the pinnacle? |
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Post by jontimmis on Dec 30, 2018 23:40:43 GMT
I don’t dispute your logic Dave... the warning signs have been there since August. Critical of players, changes his players every week, rebels when he receives an ounce of criticism.
Our board are very quiet. No official word from the family.
The only way the club will act now in my opinion is if the crowd on New Year’s Day is well pathetic!
Booing from the off isn’t in our genetics. But will be if it’s a another pile of bile!
I still amazed about the lack of criticism he’s recurves over Afobe!
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Post by Olgrligm on Dec 30, 2018 23:45:19 GMT
Pulis pulled it back from a much worse position.
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Post by NassauDave on Dec 30, 2018 23:45:36 GMT
Given the current level of vitirol towards him and his tactics at the moment is there any way back for him? NO. |
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Post by jontimmis on Dec 30, 2018 23:47:32 GMT
Pulis pulled it back from a much worse position. Pulis created hostility, almost familyesk, you come here you’re gonna have a tough time! Even though at times the football was poor... we knew our strengths and played to them. What are our strengths now? |
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Post by Billybigbollox on Dec 31, 2018 1:22:50 GMT
Given the current level of vitirol towards him and his tactics at the moment is there any way back for him? It’s possible, but personally I couldn’t give a fuck if he went tomorrow. His tactics are shocking and some of his signings have proven to be embarrassingly bad. I wonder whether McLean is actually a footballer, or if he is like that twat that turned out for Southampton a few years ago claiming to be George Weah’s cousin. To be fair to Rowett he did inherit a crap side that needed completely overhauling and that can’t be done in one window, but would anyone give this clown more money to spend after signings like that? He also seems to have a knack for alienating people , and we may need to call upon the services of some of the fringe players at some point. I’m afraid it’s only going to be downhill from here for our glorious leader. |
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Post by kustokie on Dec 31, 2018 1:37:27 GMT
As with TP season ticket sales will do for Rowett around the end of March when we have no chance of promotion and are playing to 15k fans. Agree whole heartedly with this. The fans regardless expected us to be pushing for promotion. The Leeds game was a massive thump, but we probably expected to be there at Xmas top 4/5! We are not. Season ticket sales will be affected no two ways about it... The board made it clear on our objective a return immediately.... well maybe the fans should make it clear! The same clueless board whose Chairman “doesn’t know what all the fuss is about”. The entire management team needs shaking up; however, they also own the team, which means they are only answerable to themselves and can do whatever they like. Unfortunately for the supporters, this means the only solution is for PC to admit that either he does not know how to run the team and sell it or fire his cronies and bring in a new management team. He’s not going to do either so we are basically up shit creek with a turd for a paddle! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2018 1:38:45 GMT
In all reality, there is a way back for him. Like it or not, I strongly suspect that the board aren't going to sack him anytime soon. If we go on a good run over the next two months and are with a realistic shout of the playoffs by March/April time, people will get behind him again. Not saying I think that's likely to happen. But hypothetically, yes, there is always a way back for a manager who isn't going anywhere. It's well understood that he's going somewhere. He never stays long in a job. Question is does he leave before we move him out. The board will be extremely reluctant to sack a third manager within a year. It's just not the way they see themselves as. However no manager has been as unpopular in such a short time and it's going to be a real test of character after the way he portrayed the fans as enemies of the team yesterday. Then if we lose in the cup to Shrewsbury and if we don't get nearer the top six, then their hand could be forced. |
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Post by Onneravineet on Dec 31, 2018 2:37:11 GMT
No. Rot off you fucking arrogant chancer!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2018 6:50:14 GMT
Put a few wins together and people will soon change their opinions on him, we’re a fickle bunch.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2018 7:07:41 GMT
Put a few wins together and people will soon change their opinions on him, we’re a fickle bunch. I don't think we will now. The discord and disconnect between Rowett and the fans has been evident since quite early in his tenure, and the "performances" that we've endured have only increased our dislike. His consistent arrogant and dismissive attitude, constant use of a formation that isn't working, totally negative style of play, alienation of certain players, persistence with McClean, Martina etc, etc has only added fuel to the flames. His derogatory remarks about the fans after the Bolton game have finally tipped many fans into the "Out" camp and it would seem there is no way back for him even if he were to somehow get us into the playoffs (automatic promotion is long gone). Rowett OUT ! |
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Post by clarkeda on Dec 31, 2018 7:13:39 GMT
Can all be traced back to the friendly as St Pauli. Even though we were shit, most of the fans were chanting ‘Rowett give us a wave’ to which he ignored.
It was going on for about 20mins, it got quite uncomfortable and awkward.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Dec 31, 2018 9:10:51 GMT
I think this can go only 2 ways.
He either changes his ways,or we change Managers.
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Post by raythesailor on Dec 31, 2018 9:36:25 GMT
I said at the beginning of this thread” he should contract a saw throat and send somebody else out”
A couple of unbeivabley arrogant and ill judged comments and he has lost most of the support and possibly the dressing room.
He needs some very good performances and results to do a rise from the ashes of Lazarus proportions.
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Post by Northy on Dec 31, 2018 9:40:21 GMT
We're not stupid enough to give him the Jan window and sack him in Feb.  Scholes is still the CEO and Cartwright is still in a job. |
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