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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Dec 31, 2018 9:42:03 GMT
A50 > A517 > A52 should do it!
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Post by PotteringThrough on Dec 31, 2018 9:43:06 GMT
I said at the beginning of this thread” he should contract a saw throat and send somebody else out” A couple of unbeivabley arrogant and ill judged comments and he has lost most of the support and possibly the dressing room. He needs some very good performances and results to do a rise from the ashes of Lazarus proportions. The way he managed to twist a question about the fans chanting Bojans name into one about how it’s wrong to boo the players and that we should boo him instead might help him keep the dressing room.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 31, 2018 10:00:14 GMT
The ways back for him are:
1) Put some wins on the board (bare minimum)
2) Stop the dross and get us playing like a team with the biggest budget in the league rather than scrappy underdogs who don’t know what to do when they have the ball
3) Stop the weaselly interviews where he throws the players under the bus and plays the world’s smallest violin for himself.
So not much, just fundamentally change his football and personality...
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Post by starkiller on Dec 31, 2018 11:02:49 GMT
As with TP season ticket sales will do for Rowett around the end of March when we have no chance of promotion and are playing to 15k fans. Agree whole heartedly with this. The fans regardless expected us to be pushing for promotion. The Leeds game was a massive thump, but we probably expected to be there at Xmas top 4/5! We are not. Season ticket sales will be affected no two ways about it... The board made it clear on our objective a return immediately.... well maybe the fans should make it clear! The Leeds performance alone was enough to say the season was doomed.
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Post by WhyDelilah on Dec 31, 2018 11:13:35 GMT
The ways back for him are: 1) Put some wins on the board (bare minimum) 2) Stop the dross and get us playing like a team with the biggest budget in the league rather than scrappy underdogs who don’t know what to do when they have the ball 3) Stop the weaselly interviews where he throws the players under the bus and plays the world’s smallest violin for himself. So not much, just fundamentally change his football and personality... Have you ever seen Face Off?
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Post by pottermouth on Dec 31, 2018 11:22:11 GMT
Given the current level of vitirol towards him and his tactics at the moment is there any way back for him? The bloke is finished at Stoke. Too many supporters are turning against him now. It’s only going to end one way. There’s no unity at the club whilst he’s still here.
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Post by callas12 on Dec 31, 2018 11:23:34 GMT
The way I see it is that Rowetts trying to engineer an exit from Stoke and the tactics he's using not only on the pitch but off it to are very Mourinho'esque.
Naming and loosely shaming players, having a pop at the fans, mediocre results and below par performances, it's all part of the bigger plan to get sacked and walk off with a compo package to suit knowing full well it'll incorporate his coaching team also so they'll be looked after to.
I really think he's had enough & wants out. Whether it's due to promises not being kept by the club, the way it's being run being an eye opener to him or whether he's not up for the challenge, who knows but something clearly isn't right and is very wrong with our club right now.
Rowett doesn't seem happy at work, the negative tactics he appears to be deploying are stifling the players & we look like a ship being sailed without a captain into unknown choppy waters right now.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2018 11:25:54 GMT
Of course there is. However he has got to change this god awful system that clearly isn’t working. January is absolute massive for him. We need pace and power in this powderpuff squad asap
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Post by Dave the Rave on Dec 31, 2018 11:26:09 GMT
The way I see it is that Rowetts trying to engineer an exit from Stoke and the tactics he's using not only on the pitch but off it to are very Mourinho'esque. Naming and loosely shaming players, having a pop at the fans, mediocre results and below par performances, it's all part of the bigger plan to get sacked and walk off with a compo package to suit knowing full well it'll incorporate his coaching team also so they'll be looked after to. I really think he's had enough & wants out. Whether it's due to promises not being kept by the club, the way it's being run being an eye opener to him or whether he's not up for the challenge, who knows but something clearly isn't right and is very wrong with our club right now. Rowett doesn't seem happy at work, the negative tactics he appears to be deploying are stifling the players & we look like a ship being sailed without a captain into unknown choppy waters right now. You're giving Rowett far too much credit there. He's as thick as he is arrogant.
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Post by robwahlmann on Dec 31, 2018 11:40:52 GMT
I don't think there is if he insists on playing this formation with the players he has at his disposal. We really don't have any striker that can play the lone striker role in Rowett's preferred formation. If we buy a player able to hold the ball up, win headers/score from crosses and pace enough to challenge defenders it could work out. Unfortunately Afobe isn't this kind of player, he needs a partner alongside him. Another matter is that we need to attack with more pace when we retain the ball, not play the ball backwards every time and then let our defenders + Woods make a lot of passes between them before we even think of starting an attack. Even relatively poor teams can defend quite well with all 11 players behind the ball something Rowett obviously haven't understood. You can take the Bolton game where this happened again and again, and only a big mistake will then give us the goal we need. Another problem is actually that we will be more vulnerable to quick breaks forward than the opponent with such a way of play, and if they then score one we will at a maximum get a point, but more probable lose the game. The Birmingham game at home was a classic example where exactly this happened, and we were extremely close to lose again against Bolton too who produced the two biggest opportunities of the game. Luckily Jack saved us again though. If Rowett can't see this happening game after game he must be clueless and shouldn't be the man in charge at this football club, and this is the reason why I'm fed up with him and think he should be sacked.
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Post by callas12 on Dec 31, 2018 11:56:26 GMT
The way I see it is that Rowetts trying to engineer an exit from Stoke and the tactics he's using not only on the pitch but off it to are very Mourinho'esque. Naming and loosely shaming players, having a pop at the fans, mediocre results and below par performances, it's all part of the bigger plan to get sacked and walk off with a compo package to suit knowing full well it'll incorporate his coaching team also so they'll be looked after to. I really think he's had enough & wants out. Whether it's due to promises not being kept by the club, the way it's being run being an eye opener to him or whether he's not up for the challenge, who knows but something clearly isn't right and is very wrong with our club right now. Rowett doesn't seem happy at work, the negative tactics he appears to be deploying are stifling the players & we look like a ship being sailed without a captain into unknown choppy waters right now. You're giving Rowett far too much credit there. He's as thick as he is arrogant. I disagree. Time will tell I guess but from what I'm hearing the club's in a right mess, he wants out & is orchestrating his exit by downing tools & hoping he gets sacked so gets the pay out. Enticing the fans to boo him as opposed to the players is merely begging for the attention to be directed towards him. He probably knows it was him the fans were getting at on Saturday but just saw it as an opportunity to publicise the 'aim it at me' speech in after match press conference's. Thats to me more a guy whose being calculated than thick. Let's not forget managers generally don't walk these days due to the finacial implications & if anything what he's doing is mirroring what Hughes did exactly 12mths ago. Strange selections, poor results & combative bordering arrogant press interviews, histories repeating itself & will continue to do so if changes aren't made at the heart of the club.
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Post by thehoof on Dec 31, 2018 12:09:10 GMT
Win some games and score some goals. I can forgive him some issues with the defence because until he actually saw them in competitive games, he probably didn’t realise quite how deep seated the problems were. However he purchased Afobe but either has never seen him play, or is just plain daft because we couldn’t play a system further from his strengths if we tried. We have got the same midfielder 5 times over, and even Allen’s Mum would not describe him as a “very attacking “ midfielder? His system has worked totally against Woods because he has McLean and Ince playing so deep there is no outlet ball. Rowett is playing a style of football that is probably 5 years out of date- there is a way back, but I’m not convinced he has the skill set to achieve it.
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Post by Gods on Dec 31, 2018 17:16:16 GMT
We're not stupid enough to give him the Jan window and sack him in Feb. Scholes is still the CEO and Cartwright is still in a job. Yeah, there is that!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2018 17:18:12 GMT
3-0 against Bristol City 2-0 away to Shrewsbury and into the hat for Round 4 2-1 away to Brentford 2-1 at home to Leeds in front of a sell out crowd at the Bet365
Of course there's a way back.....
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Dec 31, 2018 17:47:25 GMT
Pulis pulled it back from a much worse position. Pulis created hostility, almost familyesk, you come here you’re gonna have a tough time! Even though at times the football was poor... we knew our strengths and played to them. What are our strengths now? Play shit.......and it's working!!!
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