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Post by dirtygary69 on Nov 28, 2018 23:31:29 GMT
Reminded me of the Ramsey incident. Definitely a red but if they were so fucking bothered about the tackle being so bad it would have been nice to see them check if Keogh was alright rather than trying to get Etebo sent off.
Pricks.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Nov 28, 2018 23:40:32 GMT
Reminded me of the Ramsey incident. Definitely a red but if they were so fucking bothered about the tackle being so bad it would have been nice to see them check if Keogh was alright rather than trying to get Etebo sent off. Pricks. Exactly my thoughts at the time mate. Shithouse team |
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Post by SneydGreenStokie on Nov 28, 2018 23:47:22 GMT
Reminded me of the Ramsey incident. Definitely a red but if they were so fucking bothered about the tackle being so bad it would have been nice to see them check if Keogh was alright rather than trying to get Etebo sent off. Pricks. Keogh made a real meal of it. At one point, he stopped rolling around and looked to see the reaction of the players, then carried on rolling around. Then the ref looked straight at Johnson, the fat rat, biting at Joe Allen and BOTTLED it. Keogh then got up and played as if he was fresh from a massage. Derby fans ate some humble pie tonight. Thinking they are better than they are. They need to remember that for the last 10 seasons, we have been in the Premier and they, well, haven't. The season prior to our premier league bow, they achieved the lowest points total in premier league history. Know your place 'little Derby'. SGS |
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Post by roylandstoke on Nov 28, 2018 23:47:41 GMT
Definitely a red but I really don't think Keogh was hurt at all; he milked it for all it was worth in a deliberate attempt to get a fellow pro sent off.
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Post by kjpt140v on Nov 29, 2018 0:05:05 GMT
Reminded me of the Ramsey incident. Definitely a red but if they were so fucking bothered about the tackle being so bad it would have been nice to see them check if Keogh was alright rather than trying to get Etebo sent off. Pricks. Nothing like Ramsey incident. |
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Post by Gods on Nov 29, 2018 1:28:52 GMT
It was always going to be a straight red.
Although Keogh must now be be deeply embarrassed that he pretended he was hurt particularly when you consider he started his career at Stoke and won our Young Player of the Year Award for the 2002–03 season and played a major role in our reserves winning the 2003–04 Pontins League Championship.
Unfortunately it throws his entire manhood in to question.
Definitely not his finest hour.
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Post by localloser on Nov 29, 2018 1:33:43 GMT
Reminded me of the Ramsey incident. Definitely a red but if they were so fucking bothered about the tackle being so bad it would have been nice to see them check if Keogh was alright rather than trying to get Etebo sent off. Pricks. Exactly my thoughts at the time mate. Shithouse team Tell you what, they went down fucking easy didn't they? Getting into Bournemouth territory I thought. Bastards |
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Post by sheriffofrockridge on Nov 29, 2018 1:37:31 GMT
Well I didn't think it was a red. I still don't even think it was a foul.
Played the ball with his instep and a little follow through caught him on his shin pad. Happens all the time.
The reactions of their bunch of shithouses made up the spineless useless twat of a so-called referee's mind. In fact I'm convinced neither he nor the linesman saw it.
If that's a red, I'm Rip Van Fucking Winkle!
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Post by marylandstoke on Nov 29, 2018 1:39:32 GMT
Glad someone else saw the bite. I thought I was seeing things.
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Post by Frogger Theft Auto on Nov 29, 2018 9:23:59 GMT
Definite red, you’ve got to have some blinkers on to not see it as one. Even if you sidefoot the ball first you can’t follow through planting your studs on the guy’s shin.
What I didn’t get though is who gave the foul? The referee didn’t, play was just carrying on, I assumed that the linesman flagged but on the replays he doesn’t seem to get involved until after the decision. Either the ref based giving the decision entirely on the reaction of the players or somebody was in his ear.
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Post by pottersrule on Nov 29, 2018 10:02:56 GMT
I really take exception to Dean Ashton's comments on Quest regarding Etebo's tackle."It was beyond reckless,and was quite deliberate " This coming from a player who never put in a tackle during his whole career.
Etebo contacted the ball and his momentum carried his foot through to Keough imo.How the hell does he know it was intentional? Yet another ex Crewe player with a bias against Stoke.😤😤
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Post by Miles Offside on Nov 29, 2018 10:10:05 GMT
Definitely a red. Pity because he'd been playing well until then.
Wasn't like the Ramsay incident. The effect it had on the game was more like Delap going off against Man City.
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Post by metalhead on Nov 29, 2018 10:32:46 GMT
It was definitely reckless mate. I'm amazed so many Stoke fans are claiming it was 'accidental'. I think he knew exactly what it was doing. It had been a bit of a nasty game and he spotted an opportunity to leave one on the opposition player. He probably didn't mean to go in so heavily, but he did. The red card was correct.
The referee was utter dogshit otherwise.
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Post by VolvicStokie on Nov 29, 2018 10:33:14 GMT
Watched it over and over, and it's not intentional at all. He's ran over, got the ball and his momentum carried him through, unfortunately onto Sloths leg. I guess it's a red as its reckless, but no way was it deliberate.
Fact is, soon as he was sent off, the ugly fucker got back up and carried on. His reaction was nothing short of embarrassing.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 29, 2018 10:35:18 GMT
Whether it was deliberate or not it was reckless and unquestionably a red card.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2018 10:36:13 GMT
Reckless? Yes
Intentional? Like fuck it was
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2018 10:36:51 GMT
It was a definite red, is it a 1 or 3 game ban?
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Post by VolvicStokie on Nov 29, 2018 10:38:08 GMT
3 i'd say.
Shame really, as Clucas looked great on the left side. He'll be shuffled inside now and McClean will be out wide instead
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Post by Cast no shadow on Nov 29, 2018 10:41:22 GMT
Definitely a red, no doubt. But if not for their players' reaction the ref would've played on, both ref and liner had good views and ref didn't blow until 4 seconds after contact. Shit ref
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Post by lordherefordsknob on Nov 29, 2018 10:44:16 GMT
Definate red, pretty sure the linesman gave it as the ref seemed to take ages to blow his whistle to stop play.
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Post by metalhead on Nov 29, 2018 10:44:19 GMT
Watched it over and over, and it's not intentional at all. He's ran over, got the ball and his momentum carried him through, unfortunately onto Sloths leg. I guess it's a red as its reckless, but no way was it deliberate. Fact is, soon as he was sent off, the ugly fucker got back up and carried on. His reaction was nothing short of embarrassing. So what? He played the ref and he obliged, but it doesn't change the fact it was a red card. Still, I've said for years that shithouse tactics work and that we could do with adopting a few. We had a few opportunities last night to try and embarrass the ref like that cunt Wilson was, and we didn't take them. Naive we are.... still, a great three points. |
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Post by reddipotter on Nov 29, 2018 10:47:14 GMT
Frank has got Derby playing like the Chelsea team he was part of- feigning injury at every opportunity and surrounding the referee constantly.
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Post by iglugluk on Nov 29, 2018 10:59:04 GMT
Looked like a definite red card to me.
The bite should have been too.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Nov 29, 2018 11:03:35 GMT
Absolutely no doubting the fact it's a red, it's high, late and studs up. It doesn't matter if it was a follow through, the laws of the game make no accounting for intent or willingness to injure. A careless tackle is as bad as an intentional one. It was reckless and could have easily hurt Keogh seriously.
However, the referee didn't blow and the linesman didn't flag which implies to me that they guessed what had occurred due to the reactions of the Derby players and subsequent scuffles. Though they got it spot on this time, this is a worrying precedent if they are indeed guessing which will no doubt lead to more gamesmanship further down the line.
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Post by ProctorDre on Nov 29, 2018 11:04:20 GMT
100% red card, 100% not intentional. Just a very clumsy challenge.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Nov 29, 2018 11:07:26 GMT
3 i'd say. Shame really, as Clucas looked great on the left side. He'll be shuffled inside now and McClean will be out wide instead Unless bojan somehow comes back in. We should look to keep Clucas our wide. |
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Post by mrred on Nov 29, 2018 11:11:49 GMT
I think it's safe to say most of us would call Stoke player out when it's warranted. But there's no fucking way it was intentional. Just a shit pundit trying to get a hot take on a poxy channel.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Nov 29, 2018 11:20:17 GMT
As I've said on another thread, not intentional but that's no defence in the laws of the game. Any ban will probably be justified.
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Post by itsajoytobeapotter on Nov 29, 2018 11:20:54 GMT
Absolutely no doubting the fact it's a red, it's high, late and studs up. It doesn't matter if it was a follow through, the laws of the game make no accounting for intent or willingness to injure. A careless tackle is as bad as an intentional one. It was reckless and could have easily hurt Keogh seriously. However, the referee didn't blow and the linesman didn't flag which implies to me that they guessed what had occurred due to the reactions of the Derby players and subsequent scuffles. Though they got it spot on this time, this is a worrying precedent if they are indeed guessing which will no doubt lead to more gamesmanship further down the line. Yes, the decision looked odd but the Ref spent a long time talking to the assistant before the card came out so I guess one of them saw it. Don't think Ryan in the Refs ear helped much. It made Etebo look as guilty as hell. |
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Post by pottersrule on Nov 29, 2018 11:41:11 GMT
It was definitely reckless mate. I'm amazed so many Stoke fans are claiming it was 'accidental'. I think he knew exactly what it was doing. It had been a bit of a nasty game and he spotted an opportunity to leave one on the opposition player. He probably didn't mean to go in so heavily, but he did. The red card was correct. The referee was utter dogshit otherwise. I agree 100% it was red.To say it was intentional is unwarranted and unfair imo. |
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