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Post by Pugsley on Nov 24, 2018 22:50:31 GMT
Gary Rowett would chew off his own bollocks to have a career anything like that of Mark Hughes.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 24, 2018 22:56:26 GMT
So high that they managed to finish higher than the great man himself ever could. Why couldn’t he do that himself? The team matured through the strength of continuity and the blossoming of one youth/reserve keeper who became England's nearly number one, supported by signing players that no other manager had even considered, such as Bojan, Arnie, Assaidi, and others. So both managers had worthy input but the players gelled in a way that would have happened anyway if Denise herself had managed the team, as long as the socalled dna wasnt interfered with. Once it was, we were always going to suffer, and we did. Sorry what is that based on? You’re saying that the manager who signed the players, picked the team and chose the tactics had no input into the team’s performance and it would’ve been fine anyway?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 24, 2018 22:58:21 GMT
The team matured through the strength of continuity and the blossoming of one youth/reserve keeper who became England's nearly number one, supported by signing players that no other manager had even considered, such as Bojan, Arnie, Assaidi, and others. So both managers had worthy input but the players gelled in a way that would have happened anyway if Denise herself had managed the team, as long as the socalled dna wasnt interfered with. Once it was, we were always going to suffer, and we did. This. Nobody can deny Hughes made some brilliant additions early on that Pulis would have never taken a gamble on.. Ireland, Arnautovic, Muniesa etc.. blended with the Pulis signings of Whelan, Walters, Butland, Shawcross, Nzonzi, Adam etc ... that’s what brought about early success. When the Pulis signings were sold or got to old they were never replaced adequately, and then Hughes started selling or dropping his own stars like Muni , Bojan, Arnie etc He truly lost the plot, just look at saints currently for evidence. P.S Rowett wank also 😀 Whelan, Shawcross, Nzonzi, Crouch, Cameron all had the best seasons of their Stoke careers under Hughes.
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Post by ibby on Nov 24, 2018 23:15:35 GMT
Rowett OUT
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Post by fca47 on Nov 24, 2018 23:40:49 GMT
Yes, we had a couple of good years under Hughes, this joker has been rubbish from the start, and hopefully, to the looming end.
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Post by generationex on Nov 24, 2018 23:54:06 GMT
Let’s see if Rowett leaves us with a 100 million quids worth of players playing in a different country, so we can make a fair comparison.
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Post by wuzza on Nov 24, 2018 23:56:07 GMT
Is Rowlett any better than Paul Lambert? Given the resources Rowett has been given Lambert would have us in a better position by now. I have no doubt about that at all. Rowett has had a terrible few months but he is here for a while yet so let’s see if he really can sort it. I saw the vaguest flickers of hope today in some areas but the defence is beyond redemption and I can’t see him getting that resolved without another close season.
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Post by pavel on Nov 25, 2018 1:11:56 GMT
Yes, by a country mile.
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Post by citynickscfc on Nov 25, 2018 1:24:58 GMT
Yes and no. Club is run like a joke. Convince me otherwise
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Nov 25, 2018 1:37:18 GMT
Rowett isn't even a fuckin manager, so there's no comparison!!!
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Nov 25, 2018 2:19:28 GMT
Relative to resources etc Rowett is the worst manager we've had at stoke.
An absolute joke of a manager. He and his coaches should be ashamed of what they are producing. Season over already bar a possible relegation battle
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Post by PotterLog on Nov 25, 2018 2:41:41 GMT
How many top flight games is it that Hughes has overseen? 300-400?
How many do we think also-ran Rowett will have managed by the time he’s Leslie’s age? Anyone confident enough to bet it will be as many as one?
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Post by bergenstokie on Nov 25, 2018 2:49:49 GMT
Our season, in the fu...ing championship is over a month before Santa. That tells it all
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Post by roylandstoke on Nov 25, 2018 2:52:55 GMT
Is Rowlett any better than Paul Lambert? No.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 25, 2018 3:00:50 GMT
I appreciate your opinion and others who have the same. It’s a hypothetical question really. The difference being is that Rowlett has had the opportunity of purchasing players of his choice. Lambert was dealt a hand of cards that he couldn’t add to/change Lambert was tasked with keeping a much better team in the Prem, with plenty of very easy games left to do it. He won 2 in 15 and his football was absolutely turgid. Rowett has given some good football and some poor football, but with a worse squad and almost a brand new squad. Rowett worries me with his treatment of Bojan, but he's not even close to Paul Lambert sticking Shaqiri in a 442 and playing Bauer left wing. You've completely ignored the bit, where Lambert was facing infinitely superior opposition to what Rowett has had to face, managing a side that hadn't been fashioned in his own image. Considering the money spent on his own CHOICE OF players, built on the back of the highest wage bill in the league, Rowett's return to date, is nothing short of utterly abysmal.
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Post by madnellie on Nov 25, 2018 6:43:44 GMT
Is Rowlett any better than Paul Lambert? Good question. Obviously the task of keeping us up was beyond Lambert, but then, it would have been beyond a lot of managers. At least Lambert has a proven record of success in the Championship. And I liked him more, not as that really matters.
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Post by elystokie on Nov 25, 2018 6:50:16 GMT
The team matured through the strength of continuity and the blossoming of one youth/reserve keeper who became England's nearly number one, supported by signing players that no other manager had even considered, such as Bojan, Arnie, Assaidi, and others. So both managers had worthy input but the players gelled in a way that would have happened anyway if Denise herself had managed the team, as long as the socalled dna wasnt interfered with. Once it was, we were always going to suffer, and we did. Sorry what is that based on? You’re saying that the manager who signed the players, picked the team and chose the tactics had no input into the team’s performance and it would’ve been fine anyway? Yeh, had me chuckling too
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Post by nik80 on Nov 25, 2018 7:39:03 GMT
Personally I find him very unlikeable in his interviews, just like Hughes, and the football’s generally pathetic, just like Hughes at his worst. Therefore, he’s probably on a par, although, he’s not Welsh 😮
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Post by nik80 on Nov 25, 2018 7:39:29 GMT
Gary Rowett would chew off his own bollocks to have a career anything like that of Mark Hughes. This is true
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Post by kurt on Nov 25, 2018 7:58:14 GMT
Rowett is a big misunderstanding
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 25, 2018 8:06:06 GMT
I don't really care who he's worse than. He's shit, an absolute fraud and he should be sacked this morning for his decision to play bmi at left back for a 3rd game running when his versatile loan full back signing was sat on the bench and his best left back was sat in the stands.
The bloke is a nutjob and the sooner he fucks off the better.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 25, 2018 8:10:41 GMT
Gary Rowett isn't fit to clean the shit off Mark Hughes or Tony Pulis's boots.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Nov 25, 2018 8:17:00 GMT
Maybe Rowett is going to be the opposite of Hughes, start terribly and then get considerably better.
Or maybe we'll just stay as a mid table championship team, plodding along with the occasional glamour tie in the FA Cup.
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Post by Fred Ferret on Nov 25, 2018 8:36:44 GMT
Lose at home to Derby and the thin ice will start to crack. A draw and the uninspiring drivel will send us all comatose and we will soon find ourselves 12/14 points adrift.
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Post by ursems2boots on Nov 25, 2018 9:08:00 GMT
He’s worse...not even Southampton would take him
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Post by lloydcolesguitar on Nov 25, 2018 9:15:02 GMT
Certainly no better and not what the club needed.
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Post by Ryan_Shawjosh on Nov 25, 2018 9:18:16 GMT
I would say he's at least as bad purely because of his stubbornness in sticking to something that doesn't work. Fair enough trying to dominate games but let's do that when we're winning the game. Persisting with 1 up front at home just isn't working and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out our strikers need more support.
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 25, 2018 9:23:40 GMT
January showed what a bottle job Rowett is and his subsequent management has proven he's a complete fraud.
He should be no where near our club.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2018 9:39:53 GMT
January showed what a bottle job Rowett is and his subsequent management has proven he's a complete fraud. He should be no where near our club. January?
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Post by questionable on Nov 25, 2018 9:54:40 GMT
It’s a simple case of normal service being resumed with Rowett but in a far worse league. We should have walked this league and I don’t buy into this he needs a few transfer windows, not his team crap.
He inherited a solid base but has blown a fortune on garbage and his loan signings are worse than what we have.
I saying to my mate when leaving the ground yesterday if this crap excuse at football continues ST’s renewals will get severely hammered next season, massive gaps in seats already showing and not hard to get a free ticket as friends CBA going.
Something has to give but obviously the owners and the poisonous duo are quietly getting away with very little accountability again.
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