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Post by mermaidsal on Nov 10, 2018 17:46:34 GMT
The clue's in the title. We ought to have won that, maybe the ref's kind to animals and old ladies but he's got no business reffing football matches on today's evidence. We're showing spells of real quality, fluency and confidence at last. And for a side that still doesn't look that solid at the back to have scrambled one more clean sheet away from home is fantastic. Plenty more to do, we're continuing to climb a big old hill but a good job of football management today imo. Gary didn't let himself or the lads get distracted by all the McLean baloney either.
8 from me
* if you were there please
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Post by StatesideStokie on Nov 10, 2018 17:50:58 GMT
Horrible to watch and utterly disjointed in the final third, but a clean sheet away from home against a top six side is a decent effort. Poor discussions from the ref cost us, but ultimately, we have Butland to thank for another point on the road.
6 from me, but we still look miles away from being promotion contenders.
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Post by lordb on Nov 10, 2018 17:54:52 GMT
7 Big call to play MacLean on the right,paid off Diouf on the left didn't. Back four, including Shawcross,looked decent Needed Bojan or Adam to try and create.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Nov 10, 2018 17:56:19 GMT
We look a better side than Forest....
Should we get things happening in the final third and hitting the back of the net a bit more, we should start tho look like a decent team!!!
Over to you Rowett and staff!!!
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Nov 10, 2018 17:56:26 GMT
Horrible to watch and utterly disjointed in the final third, but a clean sheet away from home against a top six side is a decent effort. Poor discussions from the ref cost us, but ultimately, we have Butland to thank for another point on the road. 6 from me, but we still look miles away from being promotion contenders. Horrible to watch??? Why? Played well attacked well, just lacked the final cutting edge.
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Post by Roger Everyone on Nov 10, 2018 17:58:33 GMT
7 from me, grinding out another point. Still think we will make the play offs. Rowett gets a thumbs up from me...
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 10, 2018 17:58:56 GMT
8 for me
We are struggling for options up front but there was some fluent play and we were the better team for the most part. I admire the manager for having the courage to pick McClean and the decision was vindicated, he played well and we needed his energy. Another clean sheet, and for all the criticism, our defence has transformed since Williams came in; Ryan looks like he's getting back to something like form. Edwards is a massive bonus too. I would have liked to have seen Bojan introduced.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Nov 10, 2018 17:59:00 GMT
7 for me, Diouf should not have been on, should have been Berahino. Afobe needs dropping and Berahino playing up top play Clucas on the left .
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Post by thehoof on Nov 10, 2018 17:59:39 GMT
A point is okay on the face of things, but we are falling further and further behind. Rowett has purchased Afobe and clearly doesn’t play to his strengths (his previous record indicates he has some, even though I fail to see them at the moment). After today I really don’t see us scoring anywhere near enough to finish anywhere other than 10th 6 because we got a point, but he is making watching Stoke a totally uninteresting couple of hours.
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Post by StatesideStokie on Nov 10, 2018 18:00:27 GMT
Horrible to watch and utterly disjointed in the final third, but a clean sheet away from home against a top six side is a decent effort. Poor discussions from the ref cost us, but ultimately, we have Butland to thank for another point on the road. 6 from me, but we still look miles away from being promotion contenders. Horrible to watch??? Why? Played well attacked well, just lacked the final cutting edge. Attacking well results in chances created. We created next to nothing, and therefore did not attack well in any way, shape or form. I didn’t enjoy the game, but granted, that may have had something to do with the clubs laughably bad attempt at streaming.
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Nov 10, 2018 18:06:21 GMT
6.5
I thought we played pretty well and we aren't far off being the team we ought to be.
We lack a bit of drive from the midfield 3, the reffing was abysmal today but I still thought we did enough to win the game.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Nov 10, 2018 18:13:11 GMT
Horrible to watch??? Why? Played well attacked well, just lacked the final cutting edge. Attacking well results in chances created. We created next to nothing, and therefore did not attack well in any way, shape or form. I didn’t enjoy the game, but granted, that may have had something to do with the clubs laughably bad attempt at streaming. We created a lot actually, just the fact that Afobe and Diouf were never in the correct position to accept them. McLean put several crosses over that they should have been attacking.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2018 18:22:25 GMT
5.1291
First half 6 We almost looked like we had an identity despite totally misusing our forward. There were times in the game where we were playing our own game. but it was largely slow and ponderous.
Mclean had his best game for us - yes but every cutback was into midfield and he was often forced to passback instead of taking on the fullbacks. but the times him and edwards did get crosses in there was nobody there!
Second half and his subs 4 Crouch killed the game. Butland was fantastic.
Afobe is not a target man Afobe is not a target man Afobe is not a target man Afobe is not a target man etc...
After 70 minutes their very very average midfielders just tore through our midfield like it wasn't there. This keeps happening.
There is a pattern, we cannot score, GR was happy with a point around 65 minutes in my opinion.
We should be going to teams like that and smashing them.
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Post by StatesideStokie on Nov 10, 2018 18:40:52 GMT
Attacking well results in chances created. We created next to nothing, and therefore did not attack well in any way, shape or form. I didn’t enjoy the game, but granted, that may have had something to do with the clubs laughably bad attempt at streaming. We created a lot actually, just the fact that Afobe and Diouf were never in the correct position to accept them. McLean put several crosses over that they should have been attacking. With all due respect mate, that makes no fucking sense at all 😂😂 How did we create chances if the final ball never reached anyone is a scoring position??? Like I said, we just look completely disjointed in the final third.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Nov 10, 2018 18:42:42 GMT
We created a lot actually, just the fact that Afobe and Diouf were never in the correct position to accept them. McLean put several crosses over that they should have been attacking. With all due respect mate, that makes no fucking sense at all 😂😂 How did we create chances if the final ball never reached anyone is a scoring position??? Like I said, we just look completely disjointed in the final third. The chances were created, just that the forwards werent good enough to take them, like when Edwards put all those superb crosses in last match.
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Post by StatesideStokie on Nov 10, 2018 18:50:20 GMT
With all due respect mate, that makes no fucking sense at all 😂😂 How did we create chances if the final ball never reached anyone is a scoring position??? Like I said, we just look completely disjointed in the final third. The chances were created, just that the forwards werent good enough to take them, like when Edwards put all those superb crosses in last match. Let me try and explain this to you. Chances are created when crosses and passes reach people who are in goal scoring positions. That rarely happened today, through a combination of poor crossing, poor final balls or poor positional play from our forward players. Take your pick, there were cases where all three applied throughout the game.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Nov 10, 2018 21:39:38 GMT
7*
First half was very good and the only thing missing was a goal.
Second half as expected forest came into the game, but we showed good resolve and defended well. Jack saved our bacon as well with 2 quality saves, but we still had chances.
If we play that well and get some goals there's no reason why we can't shoot up the league.
Oh, and the ref was absolutely fucking atrocious. How Pantilomon didn't get a red was nothing short of scandalous.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 10, 2018 21:44:16 GMT
The clue's in the title. We ought to have won that, maybe the ref's kind to animals and old ladies but he's got no business reffing football matches on today's evidence. We're showing spells of real quality, fluency and confidence at last. And for a side that still doesn't look that solid at the back to have scrambled one more clean sheet away from home is fantastic. Plenty more to do, we're continuing to climb a big old hill but a good job of football management today imo. Gary didn't let himself or the lads get distracted by all the McLean baloney either. 8 from me * if you were there please Really? What signs of quality are there if you exclude the keeper?
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 10, 2018 22:34:27 GMT
7 Big call to play MacLean on the right,paid off Diouf on the left didn't. Back four, including Shawcross,looked decent Needed Bojan or Adam to try and create. So didn't pay off then because we needed to create and couldn't. McClean should be nowhere near the side and let's be honest, the club.
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 10, 2018 22:50:57 GMT
The clue's in the title. We ought to have won that, maybe the ref's kind to animals and old ladies but he's got no business reffing football matches on today's evidence. We're showing spells of real quality, fluency and confidence at last. And for a side that still doesn't look that solid at the back to have scrambled one more clean sheet away from home is fantastic. Plenty more to do, we're continuing to climb a big old hill but a good job of football management today imo. Gary didn't let himself or the lads get distracted by all the McLean baloney either. 8 from me * if you were there please Are we now marking out of 100?
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Post by fca47 on Nov 10, 2018 23:37:00 GMT
6.5 - slightly better. But still hardly a shot on target. People complained about TP's football, but is this remotely better. At least we had Ricardo to inspire you.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Nov 10, 2018 23:49:00 GMT
6 from me, why play Diouf? And why insist on playing 2 wingers when we don't have the personal? Play a left sided midfielder who will play early diagonal balls for Afobe to attack, we could have played Berahino or Bojan as a number 10 and looked far more of a threat. The Ref was fucking awful so a 0 for the tit. Gouranga.
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Post by RAF on Nov 10, 2018 23:49:28 GMT
5
Ridiculous hypocritical dropping of players. Pulis like shoehorning favourites into starting lineup.
H
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Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 11, 2018 0:07:14 GMT
7 better team for most of the game, played with a little more desire but we still need to get better at creating chances for the man up top.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 11, 2018 0:07:37 GMT
5 Ridiculous hypocritical dropping of players. Pulis like shoehorning favourites into starting lineup. H Who did he shoehorn?
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Post by Gunslinger on Nov 11, 2018 0:28:52 GMT
6.5
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Post by RAF on Nov 11, 2018 10:01:45 GMT
5 Ridiculous hypocritical dropping of players. Pulis like shoehorning favourites into starting lineup. H Who did he shoehorn? His mate on the right for a start, followed by Diouf on the left. H
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Post by lordb on Nov 11, 2018 10:14:57 GMT
His mate on the right for a start, followed by Diouf on the left. H And yet MacLean was excellent on the right, miles better than he is on the left. Diouf was rubbish
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Post by lordb on Nov 11, 2018 10:18:38 GMT
7 Big call to play MacLean on the right,paid off Diouf on the left didn't. Back four, including Shawcross,looked decent Needed Bojan or Adam to try and create. So didn't pay off then because we needed to create and couldn't. McClean should be nowhere near the side and let's be honest, the club. Would have agreed you at five to three yesterday. If MacLean plays like that on a regular basis then he'd be a major asset Nothing worse,in my view,in refusing to accept a good performance when it's staring you in the face. Say it as you see it not as your prejudices dictate.
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Post by colinroberts1 on Nov 11, 2018 11:37:57 GMT
7 Just need home form to improve now. How many ref 'incidents' are there going to be this season? Preston, Birmingham & now forest! Could of been 3 reds and different outcomes in each match. Evens itself out they say! 🤔
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