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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 27, 2018 2:14:16 GMT
If it was lifted would it have an adverse effect on crowds?
What do you think?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2018 2:21:35 GMT
No
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Post by wagsastokie on Oct 27, 2018 3:01:22 GMT
If it was lifted would it have an adverse effect on crowds? What do you think? Not for the premiership and some championship clubs but for the lower reaches of the league yes and that’s why the blackouts there Hardcore supporters will always go a freezeing cold sat with driving rain bury are home to say Wycombe at the same time you can sit at home and watch manutd v Everton the casual fan or two are going to say sod this I’m stopping home couple of hundred fans not turning up can have a big effect on smaller clubs |
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Post by gonk on Oct 27, 2018 5:34:10 GMT
If it was lifted would it have an adverse effect on crowds? What do you think? I think it would .When the weather gets bad and you have a distance to travel .You have only got to look at the midweek matches,On paper they look fine but season tickets are added.I went to the last home night match they said there was 23000 to me looked more like 15000. |
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Post by metalhead on Oct 27, 2018 6:15:36 GMT
If it was lifted would it have an adverse effect on crowds? What do you think? I think it would .When the weather gets bad and you have a distance to travel .You have only got to look at the midweek matches,On paper they look fine but season tickets are added.I went to the last home night match they said there was 23000 to me looked more like 15000. You mean people can't do this already? You might want read up on streaming... |
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 27, 2018 6:51:59 GMT
I think it would .When the weather gets bad and you have a distance to travel .You have only got to look at the midweek matches,On paper they look fine but season tickets are added.I went to the last home night match they said there was 23000 to me looked more like 15000. You mean people can't do this already? You might want read up on streaming... The streamig factor hasn't effected lower league clubs but in January when its -6 the chance sit and watch Spurs v Newcastle could be more desirable than Bromley v Caverswall. |
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Post by wagsastokie on Oct 27, 2018 7:00:54 GMT
You mean people can't do this already? You might want read up on streaming... The streamig factor hasn't effected lower league clubs but in January when its -6 the chance sit and watch Spurs v Newcastle could be more desirable than Bromley v Caverswall. I regularly watch my local non league team the gates hover around the 160 mark But are higher when Norwich are away and drop around 20 when Norwich are at home If people could just sit at home and watch Norwich in the comfort of there own homes then this would certainly have a detrimental effect on the ability of the club to survive |
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 27, 2018 7:06:48 GMT
The streamig factor hasn't effected lower league clubs but in January when its -6 the chance sit and watch Spurs v Newcastle could be more desirable than Bromley v Caverswall. I regularly watch my local non league team the gates hover around the 160 mark But are higher when Norwich are away and drop around 20 when Norwich are at home If people could just sit at home and watch Norwich in the comfort of there own homes then this would certainly have a detrimental effect on the ability of the club to survive They can do that now with streams ad that can't they? |
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Post by wagsastokie on Oct 27, 2018 7:25:59 GMT
I regularly watch my local non league team the gates hover around the 160 mark But are higher when Norwich are away and drop around 20 when Norwich are at home If people could just sit at home and watch Norwich in the comfort of there own homes then this would certainly have a detrimental effect on the ability of the club to survive They can do that now with streams ad that can't they? Yes if you want to but it often takes a lot of effort and a touch of knowledge But what you’re proposing is to have three o’clock Football readily available |
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 27, 2018 7:45:34 GMT
They can do that now with streams ad that can't they? Yes if you want to but it often takes a lot of effort and a touch of knowledge But what you’re proposing is to have three o’clock Football readily available Hmmmm. true. good point |
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Post by marrow999 on Oct 27, 2018 8:04:25 GMT
Yes if you want to but it often takes a lot of effort and a touch of knowledge But what you’re proposing is to have three o’clock Football readily available Hmmmm. true. good point "a lot of effort and a touch of knowledge"......really???.....you could say that about washing your car, mowing the lawn, wallpapering etc - isnt it more about whether you can be arsed! |
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Post by wagsastokie on Oct 27, 2018 8:10:02 GMT
"a lot of effort and a touch of knowledge"......really???.....you could say that about washing your car, mowing the lawn, wallpapering etc - isnt it more about whether you can be arsed! You obviously haven’t spent a lot of time chasing streams of a stoke game round the internet Personally myself I think there is far to much televised football already |
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Oct 27, 2018 12:47:15 GMT
If it was lifted would it have an adverse effect on crowds? What do you think? Not for the premiership and some championship clubs but for the lower reaches of the league yes and that’s why the blackouts there Hardcore supporters will always go a freezeing cold sat with driving rain bury are home to say Wycombe at the same time you can sit at home and watch manutd v Everton the casual fan or two are going to say sod this I’m stopping home couple of hundred fans not turning up can have a big effect on smaller clubs But dodgy streaming has been around for years and this situation hasn't happened, I don't buy it at all, and if they're such a half-arsed fan that they'd prefer to watch another fixture then there are tons of other distractions that would pull them away. I would put money on there being sod all change to crowds. It's a participatory experience being at a match and no TV game can compare to going, it'll always be the preferred option for 99% of fans as long as circumstances allow them to. There's only one way to know for sure though and that's to trial it. There's no real reason to not have every game televised on red button either. |
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Post by redrob on Oct 27, 2018 12:54:12 GMT
Not for the premiership and some championship clubs but for the lower reaches of the league yes and that’s why the blackouts there Hardcore supporters will always go a freezeing cold sat with driving rain bury are home to say Wycombe at the same time you can sit at home and watch manutd v Everton the casual fan or two are going to say sod this I’m stopping home couple of hundred fans not turning up can have a big effect on smaller clubs But dodgy streaming has been around for years and this situation hasn't happened, I don't buy it at all, and if they're such a half-arsed fan that they'd prefer to watch another fixture then there are tons of other distractions that would pull them away. I would put money on there being sod all change to crowds. It's a participatory experience being at a match and no TV game can compare to going, it'll always be the preferred option for 99% of fans as long as circumstances allow them to. There's only one way to know for sure though and that's to trial it. There's no real reason to not have every game televised on red button either. Having every game on tv behind the red button would probably to sky selling a season ticket pay x and you can watch all your teams league games |
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Post by sportsman on Oct 27, 2018 13:00:57 GMT
All 3pm kicks offs, and midweek should be blackouts. Ban streaming I say.
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Post by Jimm on Oct 27, 2018 13:03:11 GMT
Course it would effect crowds. Keep it blacked out
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Post by kustokie on Oct 27, 2018 13:32:40 GMT
I think it would .When the weather gets bad and you have a distance to travel .You have only got to look at the midweek matches,On paper they look fine but season tickets are added.I went to the last home night match they said there was 23000 to me looked more like 15000. You mean people can't do this already? You might want read up on streaming... They are now counting no-shows in the total attendance. The announced attendance is irrelevant - the only thing the team cares about is revenue. |
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Post by kustokie on Oct 27, 2018 13:38:44 GMT
There’s a big TV void for sports fan between 3 and 5. Nature hates a vacuum, look for the NFL to fill in. They have already bought a stadium and the Eagles are playing the Jaguars at Wembley on Sunday. That creates two opportunities for eyeballs in front of the box. Die hard NFL fans to watch in the US on Sunday morning (5-8 hour time difference) and people in the UK looking for somethings different to watch. I can see Jacksonville moving to London and other teams following suit. There are only 8 regular season games plus 2 preseason “exhibition” games. They could easily double that by sharing the stadium with another NFL team.
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Post by kustokie on Oct 27, 2018 13:44:13 GMT
I regularly watch my local non league team the gates hover around the 160 mark But are higher when Norwich are away and drop around 20 when Norwich are at home If people could just sit at home and watch Norwich in the comfort of there own homes then this would certainly have a detrimental effect on the ability of the club to survive They can do that now with streams ad that can't they? They can solve that problem with local blackouts, which is what is done in the US. I don’t how they would do it in the UK because I not a computer geek, but I doubt it’s that complicated. |
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Post by onefatcopper on Oct 28, 2018 1:29:42 GMT
They can do that now with streams ad that can't they? They can solve that problem with local blackouts, which is what is done in the US. I don’t how they would do it in the UK because I not a computer geek, but I doubt it’s that complicated. I’m quite sure that Mr Putin has that little scenario sorted out for us ! |
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Post by duckling on Oct 28, 2018 4:55:25 GMT
They can do that now with streams ad that can't they? They can solve that problem with local blackouts, which is what is done in the US. I don’t how they would do it in the UK because I not a computer geek, but I doubt it’s that complicated. Yup. In the United States they often black out your local team(s) but not teams outside your area. The US is way bigger, and the sports teams are a lot more spread out - the distance between sports teams in Miami and Seattle is greater than the distance between London and Baghdad - so logistically and probably technology wise it's easier to do local blackouts than it would be in England. |
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Post by kustokie on Oct 28, 2018 12:50:30 GMT
They can solve that problem with local blackouts, which is what is done in the US. I don’t how they would do it in the UK because I not a computer geek, but I doubt it’s that complicated. Yup. In the United States they often black out your local team(s) but not teams outside your area. The US is way bigger, and the sports teams are a lot more spread out - the distance between sports teams in Miami and Seattle is greater than the distance between London and Baghdad - so logistically and probably technology wise it's easier to do local blackouts than it would be in England. Agreed, the distance between most teams also creates another big difference, in that there are rarely many away fans at the games. Thus there’s not much violence (except for the usual drunken idiots). There some exceptions: New Giants and the Philadelphia Eagles are very close geographically and so are the San Francisco 49ers and Oakland Raiders. The rivalry between these teams is mostly good-humored banter. Everyone haters the Dallas Cowboys (they are our equivalent to the Arsenal). However, there was a shooting in the car park a few years at 49ers/Raiders game. I have never seen any trouble inside the stadium because they all have metal detectors and body scanners. You can also drink at your seat - in fact they bring beer and snacks to you, so there’s no rush at HT (except for the toilets!). |
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Post by ohbottom on Oct 28, 2018 15:15:51 GMT
I'd probably say this if I lived within staggering distance of the ground instead of 140 miles away and didn't have to spend Saturdays providing Dad's Taxi Service... |
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Post by Gorilla on Oct 29, 2018 7:21:09 GMT
I can’t see the 3pm ban being lifted altogether as crowds would surely be effected.
Though the midweek SKY Red button option and the foreign country season ticket is the start of change. If there is the potential of additional revenue then leagues and clubs will be keen. There has been talk of providing full live game coverage of your team if you live a certain distance away from the ground. No doubt you would have to prove your address to gain access, but for someone like me living in Aberdeenshire and who can’t attend regularly then it’s an untapped revenue stream.
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Post by superheroantonius on Oct 29, 2018 11:35:48 GMT
I would like the footie to be 3pm on a saturday
And no televised games , except the fa cup final
We would have to go back to bigger crowds , more english players and players earning nothing like what they currently get .
Perfect !! but won't happen due to the vested interests of everyone except the fans
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Post by onefatcopper on Oct 29, 2018 11:45:03 GMT
I would like the footie to be 3pm on a saturday And no televised games , except the fa cup final We would have to go back to bigger crowds , more english players and players earning nothing like what they currently get . Perfect !! but won't happen due to the vested interests of everyone except the fans Pre Italia90 & the introduction of SkyTv the attendance figures for football matches were dropping like a stone, just look at the average gate for Stokes last season in the old first division. |
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Post by flea79 on Oct 29, 2018 16:45:29 GMT
"a lot of effort and a touch of knowledge"......really???.....you could say that about washing your car, mowing the lawn, wallpapering etc - isnt it more about whether you can be arsed! You obviously haven’t spent a lot of time chasing streams of a stoke game round the internet Personally myself I think there is far to much televised football already definitely too much football these days Friday PM - PL or Championship football Sat Dinner game sat teatime game sunday 2 or 3 games on tv Monday night football Tuesday - Champions League Wednesday - Champions League Thursday - Europa League not too mention midweek football league games its mental and so overpriced for what we actually have access too when in Dubai i paid about £5 a month and got pretty much every game that was going on and any sporting event |
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Post by spitthedog on Oct 29, 2018 17:35:15 GMT
Is it being lifted?
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Post by knowingeye on Oct 29, 2018 19:36:43 GMT
How about televising some lower non-league games at that time and properly distributing the TV funds?
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 30, 2018 4:55:22 GMT
I can’t see the 3pm ban being lifted altogether as crowds would surely be effected. Though the midweek SKY Red button option and the foreign country season ticket is the start of change. If there is the potential of additional revenue then leagues and clubs will be keen. There has been talk of providing full live game coverage of your team if you live a certain distance away from the ground. No doubt you would have to prove your address to gain access, but for someone like me living in Aberdeenshire and who can’t attend regularly then it’s an untapped revenue stream. IMHO the midweek red button thing is to get everyone into the idea of it. When it finally gets confirmed it'll be less of a shock. |
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