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Post by Gods on Oct 26, 2018 9:09:38 GMT
Bristol City press conference. It's all going along ticketyboo until 11:15 I'm happy with him snapping back with a bit of sarcasm, shows some fight and its great fun Either way it's worth a watch if you've not seen it.
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Post by citynickscfc on Oct 26, 2018 9:27:14 GMT
Bristol City press conference. It's all going along ticketyboo until 11:15 I'm happy with him snapping back with a bit of sarcasm, shows some fight and its great fun Either way it's worth a watch if you've not seen it. Erm, why do I not agree with that at all? Thought it was a reasonable question apart from the fact that it was created on social media??? It was an observation of the game play and tactics in general? He doesn't care what the fans think? We'll being honest Gary I don't care what you think either if most of Etsy I see on the pitch is garbage.
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Post by juiceandbits on Oct 26, 2018 9:48:05 GMT
Bristol City press conference. It's all going along ticketyboo until 11:15 I'm happy with him snapping back with a bit of sarcasm, shows some fight and its great fun Either way it's worth a watch if you've not seen it. Erm, why do I not agree with that at all? Thought it was a reasonable question apart from the fact that it was created on social media??? It was an observation of the game play and tactics in general? He doesn't care what the fans think? We'll being honest Gary I don't care what you think either if most of Etsy I see on the pitch is garbage. Yeah, that bit stuck out to me. Saying that he doesn’t listen to the fans was something he should not have said. When you’re under pressure you want to be keeping the fans on your side - Paul Lambert was cut way more slack because he did so imo.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 26, 2018 9:56:07 GMT
He's right, he shouldn't be listening to the fans, its his job if he fucks it up its on him and he'll no doubt get sacked, as I've said before the second he starts listening to what the fans want is the day he should resign.
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Post by lstokie on Oct 26, 2018 9:56:15 GMT
Agreed, listened to it last night & just thought it was a disrespectful question. It's one thats normally spouted rhetorically in jest or disbelief, not as a genuine question.
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Post by Gods on Oct 26, 2018 10:01:19 GMT
Erm, why do I not agree with that at all? Thought it was a reasonable question apart from the fact that it was created on social media??? It was an observation of the game play and tactics in general? He doesn't care what the fans think? We'll being honest Gary I don't care what you think either if most of Etsy I see on the pitch is garbage. Yeah, that bit stuck out to me. Saying that he doesn’t listen to the fans was something he should not have said. When you’re under pressure you want to be keeping the fans on your side - Paul Lambert was cut way more slack because he did so imo. I agree about Lambert getting cut more slack, but for me he was way too much in the back pocket of the fans for his own good, it didn't ultimately do him any favours anyway, he got ran out of town by those above him. Sometimes leadership is about ignoring the background noise, rolling with the punches and sticking steadfastly to what you believe. It may work, it may not but at least he can go to bed at night knowing he gave it a go rather than dancing around changing things and apologising every time someone posts something on social media. IMHO.
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Post by thebet365 on Oct 26, 2018 10:05:55 GMT
He's right, he shouldn't be listening to the fans, its his job if he fucks it up its on him and he'll no doubt get sacked, as I've said before the second he starts listening to what the fans want is the day he should resign. The question wasn't about listening to what fans want. It was a perfectly good question that deserved an answer. For anyone that didn't see the game Tuesday night virtually every one of our Throw ins where thrown at knee height which resulted in us losing the ball almost every single time. I'd be interested to know if that's how he wants us to take throw ins or if they where just genuinely poor all night.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 26, 2018 10:18:51 GMT
The problem I have with that interview is twofold.
1. He's deluded. He genuinely doesn't seem to think we're playing too badly
2. He thinks its not his job to manage expectations. Well it is Gary...on the fucking pitch, It's your job to generate some fucking hope, at least and then maybe fans will get out of your grill. We're 17th on absolute merit. Sort it fucking out.
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Post by mattythestokie on Oct 26, 2018 10:19:44 GMT
What was the question?
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Post by thebet365 on Oct 26, 2018 10:25:19 GMT
Every throw in we took was knee high, Every throw in they took worked an overlap. Do we train for this ? And then also do we train on taking corners.
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Post by juiceandbits on Oct 26, 2018 10:33:53 GMT
Every throw in we took was knee high, Every throw in they took worked an overlap. Do we train for this ? And then also do we train on taking corners. The question wasn’t explained well though. I think GR didn’t really understand what was being said. And yeah, you can’t be controlled by what the fans think but you also have to be open to criticism. Based on that interview it’s more likely he doesn’t give a flying what we think. When I think about TP and Hughes at their best they got the fans onside and had everyone together; Hughes came in and straight away raised expectations and said we can do more. TP said he wanted as many fans as possible out in Valencia. GR’s done ... nothing. I believe the fans have him on a short leash and it won’t be pretty if we lose the next couple.
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Post by skip on Oct 26, 2018 10:47:46 GMT
I work in undergraduate education and if I didn't care what students thought or said I'd be sunk without trace. And occasionally, student representation have been incredibly helpful. Other businesses look to their client base, it's nothing new. If a footballer manager states on record that he doesn't care what supporters think he's a fool.
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 26, 2018 11:00:00 GMT
Every throw in we took was knee high, Every throw in they took worked an overlap. Do we train for this ? And then also do we train on taking corners. The question wasn’t explained well though. I think GR didn’t really understand what was being said. And yeah, you can’t be controlled by what the fans think but you also have to be open to criticism. Based on that interview it’s more likely he doesn’t give a flying what we think. When I think about TP and Hughes at their best they got the fans onside and had everyone together; Hughes came in and straight away raised expectations and said we can do more. TP said he wanted as many fans as possible out in Valencia. GR’s done ... nothing. I believe the fans have him on a short leash and it won’t be pretty if we lose the next couple. Oh dear.
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Post by juiceandbits on Oct 26, 2018 11:12:31 GMT
The question wasn’t explained well though. I think GR didn’t really understand what was being said. And yeah, you can’t be controlled by what the fans think but you also have to be open to criticism. Based on that interview it’s more likely he doesn’t give a flying what we think. When I think about TP and Hughes at their best they got the fans onside and had everyone together; Hughes came in and straight away raised expectations and said we can do more. TP said he wanted as many fans as possible out in Valencia. GR’s done ... nothing. I believe the fans have him on a short leash and it won’t be pretty if we lose the next couple. Oh dear. Hahah I knew you’d shit on that - but then you shit on everyone anyway 🤷♂️
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Oct 26, 2018 11:13:30 GMT
Every throw in we took was knee high, Every throw in they took worked an overlap. Do we train for this ? And then also do we train on taking corners. If someone asked him about corners and training for them, well it’s about time. We’re shocking at corners, as I posted on the match day thread we’re no threat from corners, mostly we allow the opposition to compose themselves and set up a counter attack.
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Oct 26, 2018 11:21:40 GMT
I often wonder whether it's worth wasting time listening to these press conferences. An update on injuries is usually about all you can meaningfully get out of it (apart from the occasional pop at a player who's said something on social media).
The standard of questions asked is very poor on the whole. And no manager is ever going to say anything which could be of the remotest use to an opponent, whether it's on throw ins or anything else.
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 26, 2018 11:50:26 GMT
I often wonder whether it's worth wasting time listening to these press conferences. An update on injuries is usually about all you can meaningfully get out of it (apart from the occasional pop at a player who's said something on social media). The standard of questions asked is very poor on the whole. And no manager is ever going to say anything which could be of the remotest use to an opponent, whether it's on throw ins or anything else. Absolutely correct, a complete waste of everyone's time. Even on the injuries most of the time they will not or cannot tell the truth.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Oct 26, 2018 12:02:40 GMT
The problem I have with that interview is twofold. 1. He's deluded. He genuinely doesn't seem to think we're playing too badly 2. He thinks its not his job to manage expectations. Well it is Gary...on the fucking pitch, It's your job to generate some fucking hope, at least and then maybe fans will get out of your grill. We're 17th on absolute merit. Sort it fucking out.
To be fair to him, he was absolutely spot on about one point at the end when he said we'll get what we derserve.
We currently are getting what we deserve...fuck all!
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Post by sheriffofrockridge on Oct 26, 2018 12:02:50 GMT
The only thing clear to me is that those "journalists" in the room need to find new vocations because the standard of their questions is diabolical.
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Post by desman2 on Oct 26, 2018 12:04:10 GMT
Waddo was an absolute master at the reporting of injuries. He'd report on a friday that a player wouldnt be playing and at three the day after the player would come running out.
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 26, 2018 12:10:03 GMT
Press conferences are bollox. But less bollox than player interviews. They are the pits.
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 26, 2018 12:10:53 GMT
Waddo was an absolute master at the reporting of injuries. He'd report on a friday that a player wouldnt be playing and at three the day after the player would come running out. You can't do things like that anymore though.
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Post by trincostokie on Oct 26, 2018 12:12:24 GMT
In my view, the question was presented as being a fans question in order to appear a little more respectful when asking it...the question itself is years overdue, and whether the manager or not is going to answer it doesn't make a jot of difference...supporters pay their money, blah, blah, blah, but also we aren't bloody stupid...I view myself as a pretty even handed bloke when it comes to assessing the shortcomings and good stuff in our play, but in EVERY game for the past 3 years, at least, we have been woeful at throw-ins, and no matter who we are up against, the opposition always use theirs much better than we do. We've got the players to play to feet, if only these players would ever make the effort to make themselves available, with movement happening off the receiver too. When we have a throw in, we have possession for Pete's sake...it shouldn't be that hard to keep possession and make some use of it once the ball has left the throwers arms, but at least 70% of the time ours are just lobbed long down the line in the hope that someone will get their nut on it and head it in the general direction of another Stoke player...the best we ever seem to achieve is a few yards of territory, when opposition heads it straight out.
Set pieces are utter shite as well, but there's no shortage of discussion about that particular deficit...the lack of debate around our throw-ins has been a complete and utter mystery to me, however...
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 26, 2018 12:16:37 GMT
Eight coaches. That makes the pathetic corners from the last two games even worse.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2018 12:18:35 GMT
I quite like him as a person, he's refreshing.
Needs to sort the football out though, I'm not even in the camp that we have to be promoted this season for him to retain his job. Something does have to change though, if the team looks as disjointed at the end of the season as it does now, he will have to go.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 26, 2018 12:21:20 GMT
In my view, the question was presented as being a fans question in order to appear a little more respectful when asking it...the question itself is years overdue, and whether the manager or not is going to answer it doesn't make a jot of difference...supporters pay their money, blah, blah, blah, but also we aren't bloody stupid...I view myself as a pretty even handed bloke when it comes to assessing the shortcomings and good stuff in our play, but in EVERY game for the past 3 years, at least, we have been woeful at throw-ins, and no matter who we are up against, the opposition always use theirs much better than we do. We've got the players to play to feet, if only these players would ever make the effort to make themselves available, with movement happening off the receiver too. When we have a throw in, we have possession for Pete's sake...it shouldn't be that hard to keep possession and make some use of it once the ball has left the throwers arms, but at least 70% of the time ours are just lobbed long down the line in the hope that someone will get their nut on it and head it in the general direction of another Stoke player...the best we ever seem to achieve is a few yards of territory, when opposition heads it straight out. Set pieces are utter shite as well, but there's no shortage of discussion about that particular deficit...the lack of debate around our throw-ins has been a complete and utter mystery to me, however... I think those sort of questions always bristle with managers but his response that ‘we’ve got 8 coaches’ made me spit my tea out. Other than being Gary’s ‘job protection shield’ it’s difficult to see exactly what it is they do. They must watch games over and over again and have either failed to deduce that all our restarts (in all their forms) are generally shit, in which case they should be sacked or they have deduced it and haven't improved it one iota in a third of a season, in which case they should be sacked!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2018 12:28:42 GMT
Well, fuckwit, as a fan, I can recommend three changes I'd make straight away;
Drop MacLean Drop Martina Play Bojan
Plus several other changes, that even I can think of, as a thicko know-nowt.
Otherwise, it'll cost you your job. You heard it here first.
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Post by trincostokie on Oct 26, 2018 12:41:51 GMT
In my view, the question was presented as being a fans question in order to appear a little more respectful when asking it...the question itself is years overdue, and whether the manager or not is going to answer it doesn't make a jot of difference...supporters pay their money, blah, blah, blah, but also we aren't bloody stupid...I view myself as a pretty even handed bloke when it comes to assessing the shortcomings and good stuff in our play, but in EVERY game for the past 3 years, at least, we have been woeful at throw-ins, and no matter who we are up against, the opposition always use theirs much better than we do. We've got the players to play to feet, if only these players would ever make the effort to make themselves available, with movement happening off the receiver too. When we have a throw in, we have possession for Pete's sake...it shouldn't be that hard to keep possession and make some use of it once the ball has left the throwers arms, but at least 70% of the time ours are just lobbed long down the line in the hope that someone will get their nut on it and head it in the general direction of another Stoke player...the best we ever seem to achieve is a few yards of territory, when opposition heads it straight out. Set pieces are utter shite as well, but there's no shortage of discussion about that particular deficit...the lack of debate around our throw-ins has been a complete and utter mystery to me, however... I think those sort of questions always bristle with managers but his response that ‘we’ve got 8 coaches’ made me spit my tea out. Other than being Gary’s ‘job protection shield’ it’s difficult to see exactly what it is they do. They must watch games over and over again and have either failed to deduce that all our restarts (in all their forms) are generally shit, in which case they should be sacked or they have deduced it and haven't improved it one iota in a third of a season, in which case they should be sacked! Re-arrange the following...cooks too the broth many spoil
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Oct 26, 2018 12:46:37 GMT
I can't even bring myself to watch it!!!
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Post by PotteringThrough on Oct 26, 2018 12:49:25 GMT
I liked the next question - along the lines of: Q: Bristol city have worn their last couple of games 1-0 with a late goal. Are you prepared for this scenario? GR Response: yes, we're prepared for every scenario.
Which inevitably means we're going to lose 1-0 to a late goal tomorrow ...
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