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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Oct 24, 2018 7:12:30 GMT
He spouts some rubbish after games but, was he even watching this one?
“I can’t remember many clear cut chances for them”
Jesus Christ, if he wants to see “a tiny bit more from us” why doesn’t he set us up to win a game rather than shitting it before he’s even got us on the pitch? Shit house.
Don’t even get me started on the tool asking the questions.
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Post by gingerninja on Oct 24, 2018 7:16:16 GMT
I thought for the first time in an interview he was deluded beyond words. We were absolutely outplayed in all departments & it wasn't plucky just plain shit!!
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Oct 24, 2018 7:21:28 GMT
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Post by robrigo on Oct 24, 2018 7:23:29 GMT
It’s thoroughly depressing. I think we had all better saddle up for another era in the lower leagues. Premier league seems light years away. Our spectacular fall from grace in the last two years is nothing short of criminal. As someone posted on another thread- from Arnie to McClean in two seasons. Sums it all up for me.
Completely pissed off Stokie!
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Post by VolvicStokie on Oct 24, 2018 7:29:51 GMT
They didn't create much though? They had a couple of opportunities on the back of inept defending by Williams.
They did outplay us but once they got the goal it was all Stoke
Don't know why it takes us to go a goal down before we start playing
Why did Cuco go off? I missed that.
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Post by auntiegeorge on Oct 24, 2018 7:37:56 GMT
Bloody hell, what a load of tripe. Is this guy really our manager?
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Post by robrigo on Oct 24, 2018 7:44:53 GMT
Hyperbole. We hear the same week after week. And nothing changes. One thing he did say correctly was the amount of turning points we’ve supposedly had.
False dawns that are just that. I’m hating this season and sick of listening to the same crap.
I know that in context a point is a point but sadly I have no faith that we can put a strong run together and catipult us up the league.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Oct 24, 2018 7:47:33 GMT
If we lost that by 3 or 4 we could have had no complaints, absolute rubbish!!
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Post by chad on Oct 24, 2018 7:48:18 GMT
They didn't create much though? They had a couple of opportunities on the back of inept defending by Williams. They did outplay us but once they got the goal it was all Stoke Don't know why it takes us to go a goal down before we start playing Why did Cuco go off? I missed that. Cuco went off because was dogshit. It took Edwards10 minutes to prove he’sa far better full back
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Post by jontimmis on Oct 24, 2018 7:56:03 GMT
Touches his face a lot doesn’t he?
I’m not being funny Gary, but I’ve heard the same post match interview now since the Leeds game.
1. Got to be braver 2. Got to stop making silly mistakes 3. Got to do the basics 4. Got to move the ball quicker 5. Got to start playing sooner rather than being 1,2,3 down
It’s basically the same interview week in week out.
It was a shocking performance and although Sheffield Utd out played us, they weren’t that good really. Which shows where we are.
Look at QPR turnaround of results lately, starting to show some promise after a dodgy start. I would have been happy overall if we had lost a few and now started to show that the above was being applied in games, but it isn’t.
Player wise: I have no confidence in Butland, he’s just a Hollywood Keeper, struts about like he’s the dogs bollocks and yet again can’t defend his 6 yard box.
Defensively: Pieters was really poor last night after signs in recent games he’s turned it around, Williams and Indi scare the shit out of me, they have to play deep as they have no pace whatsoever, they would struggle at non league. Martina is ok, supports Ince getting forward.
Midfield, I thought Woods was pretty non existent last night, Allen came to life in the last 20 and at the end showed his energy and quality.
Wingers, well just thought they were ok, nothing to write home about.
Strikers: thought Afobe was toss!! End of. Nothing stuck to him. Bera everything is trying to be too precise he tried bless him but I just don’t think he’s good enough.
Crouch did ok when he came on but this seems to be Gary’s tactic, throw him on with 20 to go, he will always have two players on him to be fair, one behind and one in front as they are scared of the knock downs...
Rant over. I am pleased we got a point but my god if we play like that on Saturday. Let’s see what’s said of the list above!!
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Post by milky on Oct 24, 2018 7:57:07 GMT
Deluded. He is trying to convince himself he is going about things the right way. It's clear the players aren't buying into it.As late equalisers go I thought their celebrations were rather muted.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 8:02:40 GMT
We were alright second half, far from our best but we just about deserved a draw. Sheff Utd are a decent team - there is a reason they are joint top of the league.
We did well to come away with a draw after going 1-0 down so late in the game, it's 1 point gained when it looked like we would come away with nothing. Sheff Utd will be fuming as we would if we let a lead slip on the 88th minute and dropped 2 points because of it.
Edwards looked good when he came on as did Bojan, still plenty of positives to take away from that but we need to be braver from the 1st minute, we're approaching games like Liverpool used to under Rafa where they set out to defend and only started playing when they went behind. With points come confidence though, the ship is slowly turning around.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Oct 24, 2018 8:03:16 GMT
Fucking start like that then Rowett. No good saying it, DO IT.
pLUCKY - no shit
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Post by jontimmis on Oct 24, 2018 8:06:26 GMT
We were alright second half, far from our best but we just about deserved a draw. Sheff Utd are a decent team - there is a reason they are joint top of the league. We did well to come away with a draw after going 1-0 down so late in the game, it's 1 point gained when it looked like we would come away with nothing. Sheff Utd will be fuming as we would if we let a lead slip on the 88th minute and dropped 2 points because of it. Edwards looked good when he came on as did Bojan, still plenty of positives to take away from that but we need to be braver from the 1st minute, we're approaching games like Liverpool used to under Rafa where they set out to defend and only started playing when they went behind. With points come confidence though, the ship is slowly turning around. What’s the name of the 🚢 ? Titanic?
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Post by teagles05 on Oct 24, 2018 8:14:24 GMT
Spouts the same shit Hughes did
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Post by bojanwonder on Oct 24, 2018 8:14:52 GMT
We were alright second half, far from our best but we just about deserved a draw. Sheff Utd are a decent team - there is a reason they are joint top of the league. We did well to come away with a draw after going 1-0 down so late in the game, it's 1 point gained when it looked like we would come away with nothing. Sheff Utd will be fuming as we would if we let a lead slip on the 88th minute and dropped 2 points because of it. Edwards looked good when he came on as did Bojan, still plenty of positives to take away from that but we need to be braver from the 1st minute, we're approaching games like Liverpool used to under Rafa where they set out to defend and only started playing when they went behind. With points come confidence though, the ship is slowly turning around. You really think it's slowly turning around? Wow! Wish I had your optimism.
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Post by raythesailor on Oct 24, 2018 8:54:33 GMT
Just watched it and have to agree with the above comments.
He said they didn’t create many chances? Thank god theire finishing was poor. They should have been 3or4 up at half time.!!
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Post by GeneralFaye on Oct 24, 2018 8:55:06 GMT
I've tried to give Rowett a chance and the benefit of the doubt but it's become abundantly clear he doesn't know what to do to turn this around, it's a shame.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Oct 24, 2018 8:57:39 GMT
Some might say we will find a brighter day...........
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Post by Gods on Oct 24, 2018 9:01:03 GMT
They didn't create much though? They had a couple of opportunities on the back of inept defending by Williams. They did outplay us but once they got the goal it was all Stoke Don't know why it takes us to go a goal down before we start playing Why did Cuco go off? I missed that. Cuco went off because was dogshit. It took Edwards10 minutes to prove he’sa far better full back If I understood the interview in the OP correctly, and I wasn't at the game, Edwards didn't play full back. McClean went to full back and Edwards played wide midfield where Rowett believed his pace and energy would cause a problem.
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Post by wuzza on Oct 24, 2018 9:02:01 GMT
Worrying. He has definitely entered the ‘fooling himself’ stage of management failure if he believes a single word that he came out with.
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Post by chad on Oct 24, 2018 9:25:52 GMT
Cuco went off because was dogshit. It took Edwards10 minutes to prove he’sa far better full back If I understood the interview in the OP correctly, and I wasn't at the game, Edwards didn't play full back. McClean went to full back and Edwards played wide midfield where Rowett believed his pace and energy would cause a problem. Looked like he was playing full back to me But who can tell who’s doing what these days 🤔
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Post by robwahlmann on Oct 24, 2018 9:30:20 GMT
They didn't create much though? They had a couple of opportunities on the back of inept defending by Williams. They did outplay us but once they got the goal it was all Stoke Don't know why it takes us to go a goal down before we start playing Why did Cuco go off? I missed that. You're right about the most here, but my guess is he went off because he had another below par performance!
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Post by thebet365 on Oct 24, 2018 9:31:58 GMT
Cuco went off because was dogshit. It took Edwards10 minutes to prove he’sa far better full back If I understood the interview in the OP correctly, and I wasn't at the game, Edwards didn't play full back. McClean went to full back and Edwards played wide midfield where Rowett believed his pace and energy would cause a problem. Bojan came on for Ecker so McClean dropped to left back, Edwards came on for Cuco straight swap.
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Post by bhp on Oct 24, 2018 9:33:15 GMT
Cuco went off because was dogshit. It took Edwards10 minutes to prove he’sa far better full back If I understood the interview in the OP correctly, and I wasn't at the game, Edwards didn't play full back. McClean went to full back and Edwards played wide midfield where Rowett believed his pace and energy would cause a problem. McClean went to left back and Edwards to right back. Just because a right back actually crossed the half way line doesn't mean he played right midfield.
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Post by Gods on Oct 24, 2018 9:40:56 GMT
Got it!
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Oct 24, 2018 9:50:57 GMT
Anybody else surprised it didn't sound like GR made the subs?
Obviously, he's not on the touchline - but usually, there's a line of communication to the assistant and the manager calls the shots from there?
I must say, seeing the three of them (couldn't make out who there were from where I was sitting) Davidson, Phillips and Sale I'd imagine -huddled up together didn't fill me with confidence. Do any of them know what they're doing?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 10:35:14 GMT
We were alright second half, far from our best but we just about deserved a draw. Sheff Utd are a decent team - there is a reason they are joint top of the league. We did well to come away with a draw after going 1-0 down so late in the game, it's 1 point gained when it looked like we would come away with nothing. Sheff Utd will be fuming as we would if we let a lead slip on the 88th minute and dropped 2 points because of it. Edwards looked good when he came on as did Bojan, still plenty of positives to take away from that but we need to be braver from the 1st minute, we're approaching games like Liverpool used to under Rafa where they set out to defend and only started playing when they went behind. With points come confidence though, the ship is slowly turning around. You really think it's slowly turning around? Wow! Wish I had your optimism. I'd rather we stuck with him and gave him plenty of time to rebuild this club. I don't think there is any point sacking him and replacing him with the likes of Steve Bruce or David Moyes, whilst results may improve in the short term I think when you look longer term (within the next 2-3 years) I don't think we would be any better off. I thought similar about Lambert too (in his philosophy I don't think Rowett is that different to Lambert), what we really need is stability and a manager who is going to focus on getting the right characters in and shipping those out that do not want to be a part of this club. Under Hughes we had too many signings that either added nothing to the team or were detrimental to the team. I like that Rowett is not afraid to make the big decisions, he has made plenty of mistakes in his time here but he's also got us playing some nice stuff at times and I think given time he will turn us into a very good team. It's also a massive waste of money to pay him off and replace him with the next guy who will face exactly the same problems. I know most football fans want success instantly, of course I'd like that too but I'm trying to be realistic about it - I don't expect us to suddenly start winning every game overnight, we have a lot of work to do. I'm looking at this as a 2-3 year plan, any manager who is going to make the changes needed at Stoke will need at least 3 transfer windows to make his mark.
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Post by prudhoesnose on Oct 24, 2018 11:03:06 GMT
I like Rowett but I'm becoming increasingly frustrated by his post-match pressers. He bangs on about the players needing to move the ball quicker. You're the manager! Tell them to move the ball quicker.
He's obviously a naturally defensive manager. However he doesn't trust his defenders and doesn't know how to use his attackers. Good times!
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Post by spitthedog on Oct 24, 2018 22:58:21 GMT
They had 21 shots and 14 corners!
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