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Post by owdestokie2 on Nov 26, 2018 16:09:38 GMT
I have already started to tell people that this is my least season as a season ticket holder. This, psychologically speaking, is perhaps to give myself the necessary time to get used to the fact, if indeed it is to be the case. In truth my buying 4 season tickets for the last three years has been based solely on it being “what we do” and “what I have always done”, rather than for enjoyment reasons. The difficulty for me in my conclusion is in the position that supporters like Werrington take. Home and away, without fail, they’re there. For supporters like him and Suffolk they’re a different breed and I honestly doff my cap. They seem so utterly committed to the club, despite its blatant disconnect with the supporters, that they can hold their patience with Rowett far longer than I have been able to. (I haven’t read Suffolk’s latest posts so I have made an assumption) However, I feel that it is because of that disconnect that l completely wish Rowett out of his position, along with messers Scholes and Cartwright. Perhaps it is in the vein hope that it will galvanise my support once again for a club which I feel has lost its way. Through the total and rotten apathy and in the Board’s gross acceptance of what, for those of us who recognised the stench of a relegation, was written on the wall for more than two years! As far as I am concerned Rowett cannot galvanise a team, pick a team or read a game that his team is playing in. All in all he is a disloyal chancer and I want him out. I have seen more than enough now and the more I see it reminds me of the tenure of Jordan. The marriage didn’t work then and I don’t see it working now. I want a divorce. Your first three paragraphs resonate with myself personally. I’ve been a season ticket holder (Boothen Stand) since 74 and I’m already seriously thinking about having to make a decision about next season already. You use the word “disconnect” and I couldn’t agree more. I’m beginning to wonder if the Coates family are quite happy to establish a mediocre Championship side for the foreseeable future, hopefully my process is simply down to my current level of frustration which has been steadily building over the last two years. In relation to GR I was firmly on the fence about his arrival and argued that you couldn’t make a rationale judgement until the end of November/December time. By then he would have had the opportunity (barring injuries) of putting his stamp on the squad, his style, his template for success. Well we’re at that point in time now and I’m seriously concerned about his (our) ability to push for a promotion spot and have a real go of returning to the EPL at the first attempt. IMHO January will be indication of where our priorities as a club lie I simply don’t want to hear conderscendering comment from the club if we fail. My apologies in advance if I’m wrong about GR
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Post by gingerninja on Nov 26, 2018 16:30:39 GMT
Is there realistically any chance we would get rid of him before the season is over?. I for one very much doubt it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 16:35:02 GMT
I have already started to tell people that this is my least season as a season ticket holder. This, psychologically speaking, is perhaps to give myself the necessary time to get used to the fact, if indeed it is to be the case. In truth my buying 4 season tickets for the last three years has been based solely on it being “what we do” and “what I have always done”, rather than for enjoyment reasons. The difficulty for me in my conclusion is in the position that supporters like Werrington take. Home and away, without fail, they’re there. For supporters like him and Suffolk they’re a different breed and I honestly doff my cap. They seem so utterly committed to the club, despite its blatant disconnect with the supporters, that they can hold their patience with Rowett far longer than I have been able to. (I haven’t read Suffolk’s latest posts so I have made an assumption) However, I feel that it is because of that disconnect that l completely wish Rowett out of his position, along with messers Scholes and Cartwright. Perhaps it is in the vein hope that it will galvanise my support once again for a club which I feel has lost its way. Through the total and rotten apathy and in the Board’s gross acceptance of what, for those of us who recognised the stench of a relegation, was written on the wall for more than two years! As far as I am concerned Rowett cannot galvanise a team, pick a team or read a game that his team is playing in. All in all he is a disloyal chancer and I want him out. I have seen more than enough now and the more I see it reminds me of the tenure of Jordan. The marriage didn’t work then and I don’t see it working now. I want a divorce. Your first three paragraphs resonate with myself personally. I’ve been a season ticket holder (Boothen Stand) since 74 and I’m already seriously thinking about having to make a decision about next season already. You use the word “disconnect” and I couldn’t agree more. I’m beginning to wonder if the Coates family are quite happy to establish a mediocre Championship side for the foreseeable future, hopefully my process is simply down to my current level of frustration which has been steadily building over the last two years. In relation to GR I was firmly on the fence about his arrival and argued that you couldn’t make a rationale judgement until the end of November/December time. By then he would have had the opportunity (barring injuries) of putting his stamp on the squad, his style, his template for success. Well we’re at that point in time now and I’m seriously concerned about his (our) ability to push for a promotion spot and have a real go of returning to the EPL at the first attempt. IMHO January will be indication of where our priorities as a club lie I simply don’t want to hear conderscendering comment from the club if we fail. My apologies in advance if I’m wrong about GR 🎯👍👏👏👏 Well put Owd
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 16:39:29 GMT
Watching that bag of shit today convinced me that Rowett is completely and utterly out of his depth. Every match I keep hoping to see signs of a system or pattern of play that gives some indication of what Rowett is trying to do but I really have no idea. Jokanovic is available and out there but for not very long I would guess. It's going to cost the club a small fortune in sacking Rowett and his army of little helpers but I honestly believe it would be the right decision as long as they have lined up Jokanovic. The main thing reverberating through my head like a cartoon character who had his head inside a church bell that was then hit with a sledgehammer is this: He spent £50m to get mid-table in the Championship! (Gives head massive wobble! 🤦♂️)
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Post by Will_75 on Nov 26, 2018 16:42:28 GMT
January 2019: Gary Rowett is given 10 million to spend to turn mid table Stoke into playoff candidates. Bojan, Adam, Diouf and Bauer all go out on loan. Pieters joins Newcastle May 2019: after a season which stoke finish 15th Gary Rowett leaves ‘by mutual consent’. The board is quoted as saying ‘with the benefit of hindsight there is an argument to say we could have acted sooner’. The recruitment team begin the process of selecting a new manager. Candidates include Martin O’neill, Graham Potter, Alan Pardew, Neil Warnock and David Moyes Ugh. That's horribly accurate
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Post by FrankButcher on Nov 26, 2018 16:45:17 GMT
Is there realistically any chance we would get rid of him before the season is over?. I for one very much doubt it. Only way I can see them sacking rowett is if this season goes pear shaped and we get dragged into the relegation scrap which is possible next 2 games after Derby are against teams towards the bottom and if we underperformed in those games I'd start to get worried.
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Post by mrcoke on Nov 28, 2018 23:35:36 GMT
I have given my praises for an excellent performance on the match thread.
It was an excellent performance and credit where it is due playing Clucas on the left forward position was a master stroke, offering speed, movement and opening up attacking positions for us.
How much else was down to Rowett I'm not sure, we seemed to be stung into action by Derby's aggression and the sending off, and by losing the lead. It seems the team acts well to adversity like going 2 or 3 goals down, but is not being stung into action by Rowett.
I want to see us build on that performance and nail an opponent to the wall and give them a hiding.
The stats for tonight's performance were still very poor, but hardly surprising we were down to 10 for two thirds of the match. Nevertheless there was clearly a team out there tonight, and not just a collection of individuals.
I hope the result doesn't go to Rowett's head, there is a massive mountain to climb.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Nov 29, 2018 0:03:44 GMT
One result will change nothing if he doesn't get maximum points against two very poor teams in the next two games.
He's a poor manager and the win tonight had everything to do with individual performances rather than a coherent game plan.
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Post by stokeson on Nov 29, 2018 0:07:30 GMT
Glasgow.You must be weeping tonight.Not the result you wanted heh?
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Post by kjpt140v on Nov 29, 2018 0:08:01 GMT
One result will change nothing if he doesn't get maximum points against two very poor teams in the next two games. He's a poor manager and the win tonight had everything to do with individual performances rather than a coherent game plan. Always somebody willing to piss on the parade. Go fill your glass up.
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Post by rondogmcmuffin on Nov 29, 2018 0:10:48 GMT
One result will change nothing if he doesn't get maximum points against two very poor teams in the next two games. He's a poor manager and the win tonight had everything to do with individual performances rather than a coherent game plan. Believe me, I'm not in the Rowett in camp just yet. But Christ on a bike, if that's your view after a well earned win, a disciplined and strategically managed game of football then there's no pleasing some. If individuals weren't performing well you'd blame Rowett. Now they are performing well, you're not giving Rowett credit. Seriously, I understand the negativity towards Rowett, some of his tactics, subs and formations haven't made sense but credit where credits due, he got it spot on tonight. Your comment stinks and I hope others agree. You're quite pathetic really, I can't help but think you're begging for a bite.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Nov 29, 2018 0:12:26 GMT
One result will change nothing if he doesn't get maximum points against two very poor teams in the next two games. He's a poor manager and the win tonight had everything to do with individual performances rather than a coherent game plan. These being the individuals he picked to play tonight you mean???
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Post by mickstupp on Nov 29, 2018 0:12:53 GMT
The bloke inherited a shambles of a squad. We won’t go up this season and probably won’t even come close. He should be given at least until the end of next season.
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Post by ChesterStokie on Nov 29, 2018 0:16:25 GMT
Maybe we should give this thread a rest now, at least until Saturday
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Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 29, 2018 0:17:41 GMT
One result will change nothing if he doesn't get maximum points against two very poor teams in the next two games. He's a poor manager and the win tonight had everything to do with individual performances rather than a coherent game plan. Really because as soon as we lose people are straight on his back regardless, one loss changes nothing either, he should be given at least a season. So the game plan didn't have us 1 up before the red and looking the better team, what utter fucking bollocks.
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Post by mrcoke on Nov 29, 2018 16:56:38 GMT
I paid particular attention to Afobe when he came on last night and thought he was really poor, Here are views on his lack of goals: It’s not an issue with Afobe, it’s a wider problem.
I think that the manager is the wrong man to be in charge of the club.
He doesn’t get the best out of his players, his team selections are just bizarre and ultimately, he won’t get them promoted.
One possible reason is the style of play. At Wolves, it was relentless attacking football, and Benik Afobe knew that if he made a run, he would be found.
At Stoke, it is slower, more methodical and when he makes a run, rather than the final ball though, it might go backwards or sideways – and the opening is then gone.
I don’t think Stoke are playing to his strengths and that is showing.
footballleagueworld.co.uk/you-cant-quite-put-your-finger-on-it-the-benik-afobe-issue-at-stoke-city/
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Post by stokeson on Nov 29, 2018 17:02:46 GMT
Afobe came on in the 80th min in a ten man team that won and your still moaning. ?????
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2018 17:08:55 GMT
One result will change nothing if he doesn't get maximum points against two very poor teams in the next two games. He's a poor manager and the win tonight had everything to do with individual performances rather than a coherent game plan. Right. So he gets shit when we play badly, and most of the time rightly so. And he also gets no credit whatsoever when we play well and beat a decent side with 10 men. You don't like him, that's fair enough and your prerogative but you can't just write off the manager's influence when we win because you don't rate the bloke.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Nov 29, 2018 17:20:42 GMT
One result will change nothing if he doesn't get maximum points against two very poor teams in the next two games. He's a poor manager and the win tonight had everything to do with individual performances rather than a coherent game plan. Wheres Glasgowstokie gone? Hope he hasn't done anything stupid because we won!!
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Nov 29, 2018 17:31:17 GMT
Very pleased with the win last night obviously but no, I haven't warmed to Rowett and it would take a run of some good performances for me to think he is actually up to the job.
The players dug in and pulled off a great result last night. Can we actually start producing good performances that are appropriate for the talent we have in the squad? Well we haven't so far this season.
He's lucky to still be in a job and even now the position we are in is unacceptable.
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Post by mrcoke on Nov 29, 2018 18:52:57 GMT
Afobe came on in the 80th min in a ten man team that won and your still moaning. ????? Who's moaning? What's my post got to do with the match result? (which I'm thrilled we won; best performance of the season by the lads.) I'm simply adding to the Rowett Out thread, comments about why Afobe doesn't get goals for Stoke. There is a view that it is due to Rowett's management. OK?
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Post by reddipotter on Nov 29, 2018 19:18:38 GMT
One result will change nothing if he doesn't get maximum points against two very poor teams in the next two games. He's a poor manager and the win tonight had everything to do with individual performances rather than a coherent game plan. These being the individuals he picked to play tonight you mean??? Anyone who thinks last night was to do with individuals rather than teamwork obviously didn't watch the game.
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Post by mrcoke on Dec 1, 2018 15:00:39 GMT
Well with today's team selection Rowett is either a genius or a xxxxxxxxxxx.
The team really clicked for the first time on Wednesday and playing Clucus forward was brilliant.
So we tear that up, including dropping Williams, many people's MOTM (I preferred Clucas and Allen.) and do something different.
Here's hoping he's genius.
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Post by shangamuzo on Dec 1, 2018 15:06:24 GMT
Carson gave a boost to Garry Gruesome's standing.
By letting in a weak shot he should have stopped.
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Post by stokeoptimist on Dec 1, 2018 15:08:24 GMT
He said he was making changes because we played with 10 for over an hour and third game in a week?
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Post by pottersrule on Dec 1, 2018 15:28:45 GMT
Well with today's team selection Rowett is either a genius or a xxxxxxxxxxx. The team really clicked for the first time on Wednesday and playing Clucus forward was brilliant. So we tear that up, including dropping Williams, many people's MOTM (I preferred Clucas and Allen.) and do something different. Here's hoping he's genius. I think 3 games in a week,and an hour played with 10 men a couple of days ago will have something to do with that decision.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 1, 2018 15:37:34 GMT
The afoebe decision will come to haunt him if we lose here as I’m sure berahino could have done an hour as opposed to be used chasing a result which looks likely , never change a winning team is no bad rule but let’s hope he gets away with it .
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Post by nonameface on Dec 1, 2018 15:49:21 GMT
Probably the best football I've seen us play for about 4years, yet we are losing one nil. How???
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2018 15:53:27 GMT
Probably the best football I've seen us play for about 4years, yet we are losing one nil. How??? That’s what we do isn’t it? We exist just leave people stretching their heads and asking what/how/why the fuck?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2018 15:57:34 GMT
Probably the best football I've seen us play for about 4years, yet we are losing one nil. How??? The football is okay. Bit slow and ponderous but a shit Reading are making us look brilliant. But we don't take our chances cus Afobe is wank. They get one chance, score and that's that. We will now be tasked with breaking down 10 men which we've failed to do on every occasion asked of us this season. Draw is the best we can hope for and that's not good enough. Mid table season looms cus our manager is wank
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