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Post by fca47 on Oct 28, 2018 17:38:20 GMT
He's way too timid, especially at home. Makes TP look like Guardiola. If there was a prize for pointless passing this team, at home, would win it.
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Post by ProctorDre on Oct 28, 2018 19:22:19 GMT
I’m not blindly doing anything, your post and your replies to people disagreeing with you show its more you blindly criticising him when we’ve picked uongood results... Neither does you spouting utter dross, the rest of the 1800 leaving ghe ground looked quite happy. Try it sometime, you might enjoy it more if you don’t feel the neeed to be so negative. This is not an opinion either - don't read my posts or a Rowett out thread if you don't want to see or discuss the shortcomings some of us (a lot of us actually) believe Rowett still has - as I mentioned in one of my posts above, today was a great awayday and me and those with me enjoyed greatly - the two are not mutually exclusive. I can read whatever I want cheers, and you can post whatever you want. I’m also entitled to reply to it to say you’re talking absolute shit.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Oct 28, 2018 19:30:49 GMT
This is not an opinion either - don't read my posts or a Rowett out thread if you don't want to see or discuss the shortcomings some of us (a lot of us actually) believe Rowett still has - as I mentioned in one of my posts above, today was a great awayday and me and those with me enjoyed greatly - the two are not mutually exclusive. I can’t read whatever I want cheers, and you can’t post whatever you want. I’m also entitled to reply to it to say you’re talking absolute shit. Thanks for your insight
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Post by ProctorDre on Oct 28, 2018 20:37:57 GMT
I can’t read whatever I want cheers, and you can’t post whatever you want. I’m also entitled to reply to it to say you’re talking absolute shit. Thanks for your insight No problem. Hopefully after our next win you might give the manager some credit where it’s due rather than saying “we won DESPITE the manager”.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Oct 28, 2018 20:53:26 GMT
No problem. Hopefully after our next win you might give the manager some credit where it’s due rather than saying “we won DESPITE the manager”. Depends if I think he deserves it - the 2nd half negativity / over confidence that seems to have been HIS 2nd half orders to sit back and soak it up (if Bera is to be believed) could so easily have cost us yesterday had JB not played a blinder and surely even you cannot claim the point we gained at Sheffield Utd on Tuesday was a Rowett master stroke of managerial genius. Anyhow rest assured that I am poised to heap praise on him in abundance should he engineer a win against the capped one next week who has fucked us over too many times with tactics mainly foul .......on this I'm sure we *must* agree......
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Post by ProctorDre on Oct 28, 2018 21:51:34 GMT
No problem. Hopefully after our next win you might give the manager some credit where it’s due rather than saying “we won DESPITE the manager”. Depends if I think he deserves it - the 2nd half negativity / over confidence that seems to have been HIS 2nd half orders to sit back and soak it up (if Bera is to be believed) could so easily have cost us yesterday had JB not played a blinder and surely even you cannot claim the point we gained at Sheffield Utd on Tuesday was a Rowett master stroke of managerial genius. Anyhow rest assured that I am poised to heap praise on him in abundance should he engineer a win against the capped one next week who has fucked us over too many times with tactics mainly foul .......on this I'm sure we *must* agree...... I didnt, we were poor against Sheff Utd and were lucky to get a point. That’s got nothing to do with that I’m saying though. You’ll deny this until the cows come home but you’ve just got a massive agenda against Rowett. You’ve basically been slating the bloke since we lost in the opening day to Leeds! We’ve just won our last game but you bring up that we were lucky to get anything against Sheff Utd, again because it pushes your agenda. So no, I highly doubt you will give him credit even if he does well as you clearly haven’t liked him since pretty much day one. Guess you have to find something to moan about eh? As your post after the game showed yesterday... Pointless carrying on the discussion with you as you are so blatantly against the man.
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Post by FrankButcher on Oct 28, 2018 22:15:41 GMT
As far as I'm concerned I say as far as I'm concerned should we not get play offs it'll be a failure and that's what PC is expecting and I should think so seeing as they have spent alot of money on players and have committed to spending money on afobe and woods in January.
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Post by wilcopotter on Oct 28, 2018 22:49:01 GMT
Rowett as good as anyone we’ re going to get right now. Current form says play offs. Some of our “stars” need to grow a pair. Give the guy a break. Zinedine Zidane will not be replaying him. Maybe Mick McCarthy, careful what you wish for.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Oct 28, 2018 23:41:36 GMT
Depends if I think he deserves it - the 2nd half negativity / over confidence that seems to have been HIS 2nd half orders to sit back and soak it up (if Bera is to be believed) could so easily have cost us yesterday had JB not played a blinder and surely even you cannot claim the point we gained at Sheffield Utd on Tuesday was a Rowett master stroke of managerial genius. Anyhow rest assured that I am poised to heap praise on him in abundance should he engineer a win against the capped one next week who has fucked us over too many times with tactics mainly foul .......on this I'm sure we *must* agree...... I didnt, we were poor against Sheff Utd and were lucky to get a point. That’s got nothing to do with that I’m saying though. You’ll deny this until the cows come home but you’ve just got a massive agenda against Rowett. You’ve basically been slating the bloke since we lost in the opening day to Leeds! We’ve just won our last game but you bring up that we were lucky to get anything against Sheff Utd, again because it pushes your agenda. So no, I highly doubt you will give him credit even if he does well as you clearly haven’t liked him since pretty much day one. Guess you have to find something to moan about eh? As your post after the game showed yesterday... Pointless carrying on the discussion with you as you are so blatantly against the man. I have no agenda other than to not be bullied by anyone into not eexpressing an opinion on here. You are right in that he was not my choice and I am not yet convinced but you are wrong in saying I would never give him any credit - if you check Sals post match ratings I quite recently gave him an 8/10 for Bolton and 7 for Norwich so it's you talking shite actually..... You need to lighten up if you're getting upset by comments on a thread entitled Rowett Out - which we all know won't happen anytime soon...... Here's to fucking Pulis over where I'd give him a 10 straight off....
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Post by ProctorDre on Oct 28, 2018 23:59:38 GMT
I didnt, we were poor against Sheff Utd and were lucky to get a point. That’s got nothing to do with that I’m saying though. You’ll deny this until the cows come home but you’ve just got a massive agenda against Rowett. You’ve basically been slating the bloke since we lost in the opening day to Leeds! We’ve just won our last game but you bring up that we were lucky to get anything against Sheff Utd, again because it pushes your agenda. So no, I highly doubt you will give him credit even if he does well as you clearly haven’t liked him since pretty much day one. Guess you have to find something to moan about eh? As your post after the game showed yesterday... Pointless carrying on the discussion with you as you are so blatantly against the man. I have no agenda other than to not be bullied by anyone into not eexpressing an opinion on here. You are right in that he was not my choice and I am not yet convinced but you are wrong in saying I would never give him any credit - if you check Sals post match ratings I quite recently gave him an 8/10 for Bolton and 7 for Norwich so it's you talking shite actually..... You need to lighten up if you're getting upset by comments on a thread entitled Rowett Out - which we all know won't happen anytime soon...... Here's to fucking Pulis over where I'd give him a 10 straight off.... Bullied?! Calm down, it’s a conversation on a message board... I’ve said you’re entitled to your opinion. I’m also entitled to say your opinion is bullshit. You’re actually the one who has twice now told me what I should and shouldn’t read on here. I’ve not said you can’t post dross, I’m just telling you that you have. I’ve read through your recent posts. The evidence is there, you’ve been slating the bloke since he lost his FIRST game in charge. If you don’t think you have an agenda, then you’re deluded. Properly deluded. I’m not getting upset at all, just calling out someone who chats complete and utter bollocks. I need to lighten up, says the man who jumps on a message board after we’ve won a game to criticise he manager. Hahaha do me a favour...
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Post by mrcoke on Oct 29, 2018 11:06:54 GMT
Whilst I lost faith in Rowett's ability to manage us a month ago, I have to admit he does seem to have luck working on his side. Once again our goal had a charmed life where, try as they may, the opposition couldn't score. Saturday was largely down to Butland and others putting their bodies on the line, but it was also down to opponents missing and hitting woodwork instead of scoring, as in previous matches. He picks Fletcher and his scores! This man's a genius! All the clubs at the top keep failing to win, so we are still only 9 points from the top. Well the real test is next up. Can he outwit our nemesis since he left? Pulis has had the Indian sign on us and Rowett will go up in my estimation if he can find a way and inspire the team to beat Boro, who must be the toughest nuts to crack in the Championship. They will use every trick in the book and we have to be extra alert and focused. This is one match where we really need the crowd to be "an extra man". Besides which, most of my relatives I married into are from the Teesside area originally.
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Post by 3putts on Oct 29, 2018 11:51:47 GMT
do you want us to keep sacking managers until we get one right? [or end up playing the vale in the 4th division?] we had a decent manager in tp but he was forced out by social media. yes he failed to replace the two most important parts of pulis ball his outlets e.g. ethers, pennant/ricky. never heard much moaning about tp when we were winning 5-0 at Wembley!! then came mark hughes who brought us some of the best players and best footballers we have ever had at stoke[shaq,arnie, bojan] he was perhaps too stubborn and the football had become stale but it is worth pointing out I still believe he would have garnered enough points to have kept us up and then the opportunity to rebuild in the summer. now we have gr I am not convinced I think we are a mixed bag so far p15 w5,d5,l5 I believe we will carry on the same symmetry until the end of the season and probably end up mid table.i am not a fan of james maclean and ihave no idea why we chased him when nobody else would touch him with a bargepole? ince? he will have 2 out of 10 good games this is not consistant enough for a team with aspirations of promotion. afobe? not sure. midfielders are ok but in defense?? bad back,indi,williams,martina all not good enough in my opinion. where do the scouts go looking for players? im boggeled we have been crying out for a abdouble faye type for many years. but I am still not going to call gr's head as that is a backward step. I will be at Saturdays game before my winter exodus so I am keeping everything crossed that i leave with a victory
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Post by clintonbaptiste on Oct 29, 2018 12:03:57 GMT
Whilst I lost faith in Rowett's ability to manage us a month ago, I have to admit he does seem to have luck working on his side. Once again our goal had a charmed life where, try as they may, the opposition couldn't score. Saturday was largely down to Butland and others putting their bodies on the line. What's lucky about players doing what they are paid to do I.e. defend and prevent the opposition scoring?
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Post by kidcrewbob on Oct 29, 2018 13:01:32 GMT
I have no agenda other than to not be bullied by anyone into not eexpressing an opinion on here. You are right in that he was not my choice and I am not yet convinced but you are wrong in saying I would never give him any credit - if you check Sals post match ratings I quite recently gave him an 8/10 for Bolton and 7 for Norwich so it's you talking shite actually..... You need to lighten up if you're getting upset by comments on a thread entitled Rowett Out - which we all know won't happen anytime soon...... Here's to fucking Pulis over where I'd give him a 10 straight off.... Bullied?! Calm down, it’s a conversation on a message board... I’ve said you’re entitled to your opinion. I’m also entitled to say your opinion is bullshit. You’re actually the one who has twice now told me what I should and shouldn’t read on here. I’ve not said you can’t post dross, I’m just telling you that you have. I’ve read through your recent posts. The evidence is there, you’ve been slating the bloke since he lost his FIRST game in charge. If you don’t think you have an agenda, then you’re deluded. Properly deluded. I’m not getting upset at all, just calling out someone who chats complete and utter bollocks. I need to lighten up, says the man who jumps on a message board after we’ve won a game to criticise he manager. Hahaha do me a favour... So as expected, you have chosen to ignore the evidence that shows I *do* actually give credit where it's due (not enough for you obviously) and that I will eat humble pie by the hat-full should Mr Rowett prove his doubters wrong and start to kill it in due course. I have not told you to do anything - I have just suggested that if you get so upset re criticism of Mr Rowett that you may do better to ignore the thread all together - up to you of course. The only agenda is YOUR agenda to bully, harass & shout down individuals with abuse, obnoxious and often nonsensical commentary about delusion and such like - the fact you've been cyber stalking me since the first day of the season is also a little creepy. An agenda is to promote an underlying intention, often dressed up to deceive - I have no such thing and my criticism is open and fully in the acknowledgement that it will make sod all difference to anyone, least of all the club. It's just cathartic venting and mixed opinions about sport - goes on a lot here you'll find...... so you need to stop imagining stuff. You can't even agree with me re Pulis and the 10 that awaits Mr Rowett should he do him !!! So I hereby give you the very last word as you will so predictably be compelled to take.
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 29, 2018 13:08:00 GMT
do you want us to keep sacking managers until we get one right? [or end up playing the vale in the 4th division?] we had a decent manager in tp but he was forced out by social media. yes he failed to replace the two most important parts of pulis ball his outlets e.g. ethers, pennant/ricky. never heard much moaning about tp when we were winning 5-0 at Wembley!! then came mark hughes who brought us some of the best players and best footballers we have ever had at stoke[shaq,arnie, bojan] he was perhaps too stubborn and the football had become stale but it is worth pointing out I still believe he would have garnered enough points to have kept us up and then the opportunity to rebuild in the summer. now we have gr I am not convinced I think we are a mixed bag so far p15 w5,d5,l5 I believe we will carry on the same symmetry until the end of the season and probably end up mid table.i am not a fan of james maclean and ihave no idea why we chased him when nobody else would touch him with a bargepole? ince? he will have 2 out of 10 good games this is not consistant enough for a team with aspirations of promotion. afobe? not sure. midfielders are ok but in defense?? bad back,indi,williams,martina all not good enough in my opinion. where do the scouts go looking for players? im boggeled we have been crying out for a abdouble faye type for many years. but I am still not going to call gr's head as that is a backward step. I will be at Saturdays game before my winter exodus so I am keeping everything crossed that i leave with a victory PMSL, what complete and utter bollocks.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2018 13:27:21 GMT
In our last promotion season our record going into the international break in November was W6-D5-L5, it is currently W5-D5-L5, we then embarked on a 12 match unbeaten run which put us right in the mix.
I'm not happy with how inconsistent we've been, and I think the team has deficiencies that need addressing but to suggest sacking Rowett as it stands would be ludicrous......
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Post by mrcoke on Oct 29, 2018 13:39:46 GMT
Whilst I lost faith in Rowett's ability to manage us a month ago, I have to admit he does seem to have luck working on his side. Once again our goal had a charmed life where, try as they may, the opposition couldn't score. Saturday was largely down to Butland and others putting their bodies on wthe line. What's lucky about players doing what they are paid to do I.e. defend and prevent the opposition scoring? Nothing. Your reply to my original post is highly prejudicial. I made a balanced statement, giving credit where it was due to the players. You have despicably edited my original post from the third sentence by changing a comma to a full stop and deleting the whole of the rest of my original post.
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Post by lordb on Oct 29, 2018 13:44:06 GMT
In our last promotion season our record going into the international break in November was W6-D5-L5, it is currently W5-D5-L5, we then embarked on a 12 match unbeaten run which put us right in the mix. I'm not happy with how inconsistent we've been, and I think the team has deficiencies that need addressing but to suggest sacking Rowett as it stands would be ludicrous...... Quite sure Coates will give him till May. If we make the play offs (or better) he's going nowhere. If we don't make the play offs he'll probably get the sack.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2018 13:45:22 GMT
In our last promotion season our record going into the international break in November was W6-D5-L5, it is currently W5-D5-L5, we then embarked on a 12 match unbeaten run which put us right in the mix. I'm not happy with how inconsistent we've been, and I think the team has deficiencies that need addressing but to suggest sacking Rowett as it stands would be ludicrous...... Quite sure Coates will give him till May. If we make the play offs (or better) he's going nowhere. If we don't make the play offs he'll probably get the sack. Which is the most sensible way to go about it.
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Post by mrcoke on Oct 29, 2018 14:00:06 GMT
In our last promotion season our record going into the international break in November was W6-D5-L5, it is currently W5-D5-L5, we then embarked on a 12 match unbeaten run which put us right in the mix. I'm not happy with how inconsistent we've been, and I think the team has deficiencies that need addressing but to suggest sacking Rowett as it stands would be ludicrous...... I like it! I would be ecstatic if we went on a 12 match unbeaten run. I accept results are the major thing that matters, but my dissatisfaction with Rowett is based on the quality of performances. 2 of our wins had a large element of luck. I would accept a couple of defeats in the next 12, what I want to see is good teamwork for most of a match, convincing victories, and quality performances we can be proud.
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Post by Miles Offside on Oct 29, 2018 14:58:22 GMT
In our last promotion season our record going into the international break in November was W6-D5-L5, it is currently W5-D5-L5, we then embarked on a 12 match unbeaten run which put us right in the mix. I'm not happy with how inconsistent we've been, and I think the team has deficiencies that need addressing but to suggest sacking Rowett as it stands would be ludicrous...... I like it! I would be ecstatic if we went on a 12 match unbeaten run. I accept results are the major thing that matters, but my dissatisfaction with Rowett is based on the quality of performances. 2 of our wins had a large element of luck. I would accept a couple of defeats in the next 12, what I want to see is good teamwork for most of a match, convincing victories, and quality performances we can be proud. This. Easier said than done though.
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Post by littlecrouchy on Oct 29, 2018 15:02:27 GMT
Has he gone yet?
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Post by ProctorDre on Oct 29, 2018 20:55:11 GMT
Bullied?! Calm down, it’s a conversation on a message board... I’ve said you’re entitled to your opinion. I’m also entitled to say your opinion is bullshit. You’re actually the one who has twice now told me what I should and shouldn’t read on here. I’ve not said you can’t post dross, I’m just telling you that you have. I’ve read through your recent posts. The evidence is there, you’ve been slating the bloke since he lost his FIRST game in charge. If you don’t think you have an agenda, then you’re deluded. Properly deluded. I’m not getting upset at all, just calling out someone who chats complete and utter bollocks. I need to lighten up, says the man who jumps on a message board after we’ve won a game to criticise he manager. Hahaha do me a favour... So as expected, you have chosen to ignore the evidence that shows I *do* actually give credit where it's due (not enough for you obviously) and that I will eat humble pie by the hat-full should Mr Rowett prove his doubters wrong and start to kill it in due course. I have not told you to do anything - I have just suggested that if you get so upset re criticism of Mr Rowett that you may do better to ignore the thread all together - up to you of course. The only agenda is YOUR agenda to bully, harass & shout down individuals with abuse, obnoxious and often nonsensical commentary about delusion and such like - the fact you've been cyber stalking me since the first day of the season is also a little creepy. An agenda is to promote an underlying intention, often dressed up to deceive - I have no such thing and my criticism is open and fully in the acknowledgement that it will make sod all difference to anyone, least of all the club. It's just cathartic venting and mixed opinions about sport - goes on a lot here you'll find...... so you need to stop imagining stuff. You can't even agree with me re Pulis and the 10 that awaits Mr Rowett should he do him !!! So I hereby give you the very last word as you will so predictably be compelled to take. Nope, I looked on your profile for 2 minutes at your old posts as i suspected it would be full of Rowett bashing, which it was. If there’s a positive comment on him from you, they are seriously outnumbered by the posts bashing him. I looked on your profile for 2 minutes, it’s not cyber stalking since the start of the season. You’re coming across really pathetic with a lot of what you’ve just said. I’m actually embarrassed for you reading it. Claims of bullying because I don’t agree with your point of view?! Seriously, grow up. I wont be replying to your dramatic nonsense again, good luck to you and try and cheer up a little...
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Post by SneydGreenStokie on Oct 31, 2018 0:19:57 GMT
Shit bin to this thread. Serves no purpose and is frankly unhelpful
SGS
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Post by lifelong on Oct 31, 2018 12:00:04 GMT
Shit bin to this thread. Serves no purpose and is frankly unhelpful
I definitely second that !
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Post by scubastevetokie on Oct 31, 2018 12:30:12 GMT
Shit bin to this thread. Serves no purpose and is frankly unhelpful I definitely second that ! Third!!!!! Motion carried?????
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Post by TexasPotter on Oct 31, 2018 13:24:06 GMT
Motion denied! You’d let a chancer, charlatan and a hyped up fanboy on the streets to attempt to manage! 😂
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Post by mattface on Oct 31, 2018 13:32:03 GMT
Shit bin to this thread. Serves no purpose and is frankly unhelpful I definitely second that ! Third!!!!! Motion carried????? Fourth get it gone
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Post by mrcoke on Oct 31, 2018 17:36:35 GMT
Shit bin to this thread. Serves no purpose and is frankly unhelpful I definitely second that ! Third!!!!! Motion carried????? Objection! I am a loyal fan of the club and have persistently supported our managers until I believed it was a hopeless cause and they needed to be removed to install some one better. I was happy with Rowett's appointment, which some say was just "15 matches ago", but actually 22nd May, 5 months ago. I watched his signings, pre-season, and opening matches with great patience. I dismissed the "instant" calls for his sacking, read comments like "wait till the proper matches start" during pre-season, "wait till 10 matches are played" during the early season. Sat and endured our trousers being pulled down by Leeds in the middle of the Leeds fans because I couldn't get a ticket from Stoke, and accepted defeat saying anyone would have struggled to match Leeds that day. I remained patient during the opening defeats and draws accepting it would take time to adjust to life in the Championship and for players to get to know each other's game. I was hearten by the Hull victory but not really convinced by the performance. I questioned why was it necessary to start playing well after we started losing a match, and why when we start well, as soon as the opposition score we go to pieces. The victory against Swansea kept me "on side" despite allowing Swansea to dominate part of the match and biting my nails that they would equalise at some point. My patience finally ran out at Rotherham when we again let a poor team take a 2 goal lead. I was delighted we fought back (you can see me jumping up and down in front of Bojan when he scored) but came to the conclusion Rowett is not motivating the side, who only really get truly motivated when losing, and our build up play is none existent, hence the paucity of goals from open play. Even the victories against Norwich and Bristol have been totally against the run of play; games where we miraculously avoided conceding goals. As I said at the top of this post, I am a loyal fan, am delighted when we get a good result and I know there have been some. I would be delighted to be proven wrong by Rowett, but all the evidence I have seen from our performances, tactics, team selection and substitutions indicate to me he is out of his depth. Our defending has been abysmal and a our goal scoring chance creation almost none existent. We cannot wait and see. It is vital we get back into the Prem this season and waiting to see if we qualify for the play-offs is not the right course of action. The play-offs are a cup competition and we know what our history in cup competitions is like, and Rowett showed last season he cannot manage play-offs. Next season we are certain to lose decent players like Butland, Etebo, Allen, Woods, and any of the players who come good, if we are not promoted. Most of our aged squad will another year into their 30s, so it is vital we go back up this season. I don't see any evidence that Rowett is the man to get this club promoted and we cannot afford just to wait and hope things get better. By better I mean better performances that will be the major determining factor on where we will finish in the league at the end of the season.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2018 17:50:36 GMT
Third!!!!! Motion carried????? Objection! I am a loyal fan of the club and have persistently supported our managers until I believed it was a hopeless cause and they needed to be removed to install some one better. I was happy with Rowett's appointment, which some say was just "15 matches ago", but actually 22nd May, 5 months ago. I watched his signings, pre-season, and opening matches with great patience. I dismissed the "instant" calls for his sacking, read comments like "wait till the proper matches start" during pre-season, "wait till 10 matches are played" during the early season. Sat and endured our trousers being pulled down by Leeds in the middle of the Leeds fans because I couldn't get a ticket from Stoke, and accepted defeat saying anyone would have struggled to match Leeds that day. I remained patient during the opening defeats and draws accepting it would take time to adjust to life in the Championship and for players to get to know each other's game. I was hearten by the Hull victory but not really convinced by the performance. I questioned why was it necessary to start playing well after we started losing a match, and why when we start well, as soon as the opposition score we go to pieces. The victory against Swansea kept me "on side" despite allowing Swansea to dominate part of the match and biting my nails that they would equalise at some point. My patience finally ran out at Rotherham when we again let a poor team take a 2 goal lead. I was delighted we fought back (you can see me jumping up and down in front of Bojan when he scored) but came to the conclusion Rowett is not motivating the side, who only really get truly motivated when losing, and our build up play is none existent, hence the paucity of goals from open play. Even the victories against Norwich and Bristol have been totally against the run of play; games where we miraculously avoided conceding goals. As I said at the top of this post, I am a loyal fan, am delighted when we get a good result and I know there have been some. I would be delighted to be proven wrong by Rowett, but all the evidence I have seen from our performances, tactics, team selection and substitutions indicate to me he is out of his depth. Our defending has been abysmal and a our goal scoring chance creation almost none existent. We cannot wait and see. It is vital we get back into the Prem this season and waiting to see if we qualify for the play-offs is not the right course of action. The play-offs are a cup competition and we know what our history in cup competitions is like, and Rowett showed last season he cannot manage play-offs. Next season we are certain to lose decent players like Butland, Etebo, Allen, Woods, and any of the players who come good, if we are not promoted. Most of our aged squad will another year into their 30s, so it is vital we go back up this season. I don't see any evidence that Rowett is the man to get this club promoted and we cannot afford just to wait and hope things get better. By better I mean better performances that will be the major determining factor on where we will finish in the league at the end of the season. You make some good points there but you have to remember that this is the first time Rowett has been in this situation and there are very few managers that take on a new situation and are instantly successful. He's never had this expectation. He's never had this much money to spend. He's never managed a newly relegated team before, which comes with the added baggage of a wrecked dressing room and shattered confidence. There are a few things I'm not impressed with thus far but the situation above should cut him a bit of slack. Name me a manager, that fits the profile of the board and would come in on budget and be instantly successful given the above scenario? Give him the season and assess him at the end I reckon is the right way to go and it's the way I fully expect Peter and the board to go.
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