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Post by gingerninja on Jan 7, 2019 17:14:24 GMT
Today being a free day could have been a good day to sort out contracts etc for his backroom staff. Clutching at straws I know but trying to put a positive slant on a very up in the air situation.
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Post by jontimmis on Jan 7, 2019 17:14:27 GMT
Who actually thinks GR is going to be sacked, little coming from the club perhaps if they keep quiet it may just go away 🤫🤫 They'll be foolish to even think like that! Ignore the fans at there own peril in my opinion. All this silence is them clearly chasing who they want in without all the public fanfare of last year. Surely the only logical reason for silence?
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Post by FrankButcher on Jan 7, 2019 17:19:30 GMT
They'll be foolish to even think like that! Ignore the fans at there own peril in my opinion. All this silence is them clearly chasing who they want in without all the public fanfare of last year. Surely the only logical reason for silence? Exactly! You would of thought they'll chase who they want close out a deal sort out the new managers backroom staff and sack rowett and announce the new manager the same day which I'm hoping is tomorrow so the new manager at least has most of the week with the squad.
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Post by jontimmis on Jan 7, 2019 17:22:40 GMT
Surely the only logical reason for silence? Exactly! You would of thought they'll chase who they want close out a deal sort out the new managers backroom staff and sack rowett and announce the new manager the same day which I'm hoping is tomorrow so the new manager at least has most of the week with the squad. I just can’t think of any other reason why they would be silent. I suppose Rowett due to his attitude would probably be difficult in his negotiations and get the best package possible for him and his team. After all he’s building a big house back in Derby and will have plenty of money and time to do those better things he so longs to be doing!?!
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Post by pavel on Jan 7, 2019 17:25:47 GMT
I can understand the silence from the club after the last debacle but the longer this drags on the more corrosive it gets. The club are aware of the discontent in no uncertain terms, they appear to be looking for a new manager so a statement of any kind would be helpful. Staying with Rowett even for the next few days/next game/week only further gives the impression that the club is badly run, unprepared and dithering. One wonders what the players are thinking about it all, everyone is in no man's land at the moment, I would think any kind of caretaker manager would be preferable to the current situation and at least bring the board time to fully explore all possibilities and make a considered decision.
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Post by questionable on Jan 7, 2019 17:28:46 GMT
Once the management situation sorts itself out can we not forget about the other two clowns who’ve got us here as last time they got off Scott free.
The Coates Family, well there’s another story but they’re so gullible it’s embarrassing.
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Post by jontimmis on Jan 7, 2019 17:30:36 GMT
The unity statements in the dressing room make me smile, I think in modern football history I can’t certainly name one manager that recovers from this level of animosity and certainly the players “down tools”, results performance decline. I’m convinced the silence will be at some stage this week backed up with an official statement by the club. Being stoke city who knows what that will be!
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Post by gingerninja on Jan 7, 2019 17:36:01 GMT
Trouble if you keep him then after every poor performance or a game not going to plan then the abuse and anti feeling towards him will only escalate and that helps niether the team or the public's vision of the club.
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Post by rockthecity on Jan 7, 2019 17:37:03 GMT
They have cancelled an event tonigh so maybe??
Unfortunately due to unforeseen circumstances our invite only Advanced Training Centre at Ormiston Horizon has been cancelled this evening. Sorry for any inconvenience caused.
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Post by jontimmis on Jan 7, 2019 17:38:10 GMT
They have cancelled an event tonigh so maybe?? Unfortunately due to unforeseen circumstances our invite only Advanced Training Centre at Ormiston Horizon has been cancelled this evening. Sorry for any inconvenience caused. What event was this, sorry?
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Post by rockthecity on Jan 7, 2019 17:45:30 GMT
Invite only training thing that apparently Rowett should possibly be attending
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Post by jontimmis on Jan 7, 2019 17:48:33 GMT
Invite only training thing that apparently Rowett should possibly be attending The plot thickens...
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Post by lagwafis on Jan 7, 2019 17:49:18 GMT
They have cancelled an event tonigh so maybe?? Unfortunately due to unforeseen circumstances our invite only Advanced Training Centre at Ormiston Horizon has been cancelled this evening. Sorry for any inconvenience caused. What event was this, sorry? It's 7 - 12 year old trials and coaching. It's been called off before due to poor weather conditions (from a few years ago, here).
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jan 7, 2019 17:50:02 GMT
I think he'll stay and I think the owners have given up on this season
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Post by jontimmis on Jan 7, 2019 17:51:12 GMT
I think he'll stay and I think the owners have given up on this season I think they’ve given up on the season. I do believe that purely as nothing has been said since September that play offs are the objective!
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Post by march4 on Jan 7, 2019 17:52:22 GMT
Presuming that if he was fired all his staff would go with him. Who would you want to take training and take the next game? You could have said that about the Hughes sacking but Eddie stayed on in the interim and then rejoined Hughes once we'd got Lambert in, absolutely no reason why something similar couldn't happen again. If it couldn't, then Rooster and Wade could do it. But as I said, NOTHING can justify Rowett continuing. We're already in the fire, why the heck would we want to poor petrol on it? And that inferno is likely to engulf Scholes and Cartwright if they aren’t careful.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 7, 2019 17:52:31 GMT
I think he'll stay and I think the owners have given up on this season There's absolutely no chance he can stay, surely? It's too far gone for that? Every single defeat or rotten performance is going to be met with the same sort of reaction to the Bristol City game. That's going to be exhausting for everyone and toxic for the club.
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Post by march4 on Jan 7, 2019 17:53:38 GMT
The atmosphere will lift considerably upon the axe falling. I'm not sure it would be that considerable. The fans want blood at the minute, the manager is only part of the problem to many. The board need a big name manager coming in to save the day imo. It'll be the only way to get the support back on track. Spot on, mate.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jan 7, 2019 17:55:32 GMT
Is there anybody in the know, who could tell us what is going on? Peter and Jon Coates don't post on here. Neither does Scholes. Ah but one of them watches
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jan 7, 2019 17:57:20 GMT
You could have said that about the Hughes sacking but Eddie stayed on in the interim and then rejoined Hughes once we'd got Lambert in, absolutely no reason why something similar couldn't happen again. If it couldn't, then Rooster and Wade could do it. But as I said, NOTHING can justify Rowett continuing. We're already in the fire, why the heck would we want to poor petrol on it? And that inferno is likely to engulf Scholes and Cartwright if they aren’t careful. Lessons of history , The great fire of London purged the capital of the Plague .
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Post by march4 on Jan 7, 2019 18:02:42 GMT
I'm on tender hooks here and wish the board would just stop this speculation and nip it in the butt. That Rowett can continue is a mute point - just get a new manager in now and he'll be chomping at the bit to get going vs. Brentford at the weekend. If Moyes is in charge on Saturday playing with a simple 4-2-3-1 to start off with, we will absolutely dick Brentford. We would with Big Sam. I can’t see Moyes turning things round.
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Post by bolders on Jan 7, 2019 18:27:34 GMT
Right when this does happen and we get rid of Rowett the first game with a new manager can we cheer every pass and tackle our players make to show them we support them and always have, just not the incompetent fool in charge at the time.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 7, 2019 18:39:03 GMT
You could have said that about the Hughes sacking but Eddie stayed on in the interim and then rejoined Hughes once we'd got Lambert in, absolutely no reason why something similar couldn't happen again. If it couldn't, then Rooster and Wade could do it. But as I said, NOTHING can justify Rowett continuing. We're already in the fire, why the heck would we want to poor petrol on it? The club can't win on this though can they. They fans shouted for Rowett which they got (massive mistake) When they fired Hughes last time they were criticised when we had the public humiliation of QSF then O'Neill both turn us down and then were criticised heavily when giving it to Lambert. Surely taking this into account its best to get the new man signed and sealed first then we can all get behind him. You're away with the fairies Mark if you think that they appointed Rowett because that was the manager that came top of an Oatcake poll. The board thought he was the best man for the job and they got it wrong. It's that simple. Shit happens ... and they're obviously in the process of trying to rectify their mistake. The issue last January, wasn't that people turned us down one after the other, whilst we sought a new manager. The issue was that the rejections were in the public domain. Plenty of clubs sack a manager without having an immediate replacement to hand and in the meantime, they appoint an interim manager, until they've found a permanent replacement. For all we know, as of right now, over the weekend, our first and second choices could have turned us down but we don't know about these rejections because the club have been tighter on leaks this time around. But if Rooster had been in the dug out on Saturday it wouldn't have made a blind bit of difference with regards to any rejections we may have had over the weekend.Rowett's presence is poisonous, for every match he remains in charge, the harder it will become for the new manager who ultimately takes over. There is absolutely no logical reason for him to remain here.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 7, 2019 18:54:40 GMT
100% this, people need to calm down and let them get on with it, instead we're getting multiple threads trying to have a go at pretty much anyone connected with the club, I understand the frustration but its starting to get a bit ridiculous. On the contrary, the fans must keep the pressure on the owners to do something. I don't get this "let them get on with it" mentality of some supporters. These clowns have proven time and time again that they are not capable of getting on with it and making sensible footballing decisions. They have the pressure on them, its clear, I'm commenting on those moaning that they haven't yet said anything so must be sitting around doing nothing, for all we know they're are sounding out options, its a much better situation than last time when we sacked Hughes with no one lined up and got turned down pretty publicly more than once. The sensible footballing decision they are currently making is not conducting this in public for all to see, its shows, to me at least, that they have learnt something for a change.
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Post by neddy on Jan 7, 2019 18:56:19 GMT
Do you think the longer it goes we can’t get who we want?
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Post by potter25 on Jan 7, 2019 18:58:22 GMT
The unity statements in the dressing room make me smile, I think in modern football history I can’t certainly name one manager that recovers from this level of animosity and certainly the players “down tools”, results performance decline. I’m convinced the silence will be at some stage this week backed up with an official statement by the club. Being stoke city who knows what that will be! I read into this the players are on to an easy time with Rowett in charge and are used to a cushy training regime, they may know if Sam or Moyes(especially) come in it’ll be a lot different as they are two disciplinarians
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Post by neddy on Jan 7, 2019 19:00:34 GMT
The unity statements in the dressing room make me smile, I think in modern football history I can’t certainly name one manager that recovers from this level of animosity and certainly the players “down tools”, results performance decline. I’m convinced the silence will be at some stage this week backed up with an official statement by the club. Being stoke city who knows what that will be! I read into this the players are on to an easy time with Rowett in charge and are used to a cushy training regime, they may know if Sam or Moyes(especially) come in it’ll be a lot different as they are two disciplinarians Or they are edging their bets both ways as he hasn’t been sacked yet?
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 7, 2019 19:01:42 GMT
On the contrary, the fans must keep the pressure on the owners to do something. I don't get this "let them get on with it" mentality of some supporters. These clowns have proven time and time again that they are not capable of getting on with it and making sensible footballing decisions. They have the pressure on them, its clear, I'm commenting on those moaning that they haven't yet said anything so must be sitting around doing nothing, for all we know they're are sounding out options, its a much better situation than last time when we sacked Hughes with no one lined up and got turned down pretty publicly more than once. The sensible footballing decision they are currently making is not conducting this in public for all to see, its shows, to me at least, that they have learnt something for a change. It's not a footballing decision is it. It's them trying to save face. The sensible football decision would have been to have relieved Rowett of his duties on the final whistle against Bristol. We have plenty who could be a caretaker.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 7, 2019 19:02:59 GMT
They have the pressure on them, its clear, I'm commenting on those moaning that they haven't yet said anything so must be sitting around doing nothing, for all we know they're are sounding out options, its a much better situation than last time when we sacked Hughes with no one lined up and got turned down pretty publicly more than once. The sensible footballing decision they are currently making is not conducting this in public for all to see, its shows, to me at least, that they have learnt something for a change. It's not a footballing decision is it. It's them trying to save face. The sensible football decision would have been to have relieved Rowett of his duties on the final whistle against Bristol. We have plenty who could be a caretaker. Like who, current players or staff?
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jan 7, 2019 19:04:17 GMT
Like I said earlier, no sacking today. In fact, I wouldn't be expecting any movement tomorrow either.
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