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Post by spitthedog on Sept 22, 2018 17:28:16 GMT
Spoke longer criticising a player who wasn't on the pitch than he did about those who played This is incorrect and misinformation. I don't mind criticism of anyone of the facts are correct. It is not going to help anyone.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Sept 22, 2018 17:30:33 GMT
I'm not taking sides here because we don't know what's currently going on behind the scenes, and I certainly haven't heard the interview. All that said, it's a bit stupid from Bauer isn't it? He had a bit of a dig on Instagram before the Sunderland game and now this. I don't think he's been treated right but he isn't the first and won't be the last. He'll get a move to another club but in the mean time he should just get his head down and work. I'll listen to the interview before assessing Rowett but in all honesty, digging players out in public never, ever works. We're in deep shit here. Real deep shit. Yes we are. With a defence that many on here were lauding before the season started.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2018 17:31:41 GMT
Absolute bollocks. He admitted in his interview that he carries the can and that he has made mistakes by having too much faith in certain members of his defence. He's spot on. It's his biggest mistake by far, we needed another centre half through the door because Ashley Williams wasn't the answer, even though he should have replaced Shawcross a few games ago. Admitting a failure on the basis of ‘having too much faith’ in your players is a twat’s trick. It’s the David Brent way of saying ‘I know my faults. It’s their fault but I’m just too kind really’. It’s his team and his training. Own your mistakes GFR. How many managers do you know come out and admit that what they're doing is no good? Personally I think he's being as honest as he possibly can be and how can any manager legislate for Shawcross and Martina trying to play offside when they weren't even on the same page with a ball over the top? The mistake Rowett has made is having goto much faith in the useless fuckers who are currently holding the shirts at the back.
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Post by followyoudown on Sept 22, 2018 17:31:48 GMT
If all he has got is the dead cat strategy we are fcuked.
Honestly never heard such bollocks in my life as if anyone would change their tactics on whether Bauer was in the time or not.......
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Post by andystokey on Sept 22, 2018 17:34:50 GMT
Pretty much everything he said was bang on, it's about time someone at the club said it. He was clearly very upset but he said it as it was. I don't think he shirked his share of the blame.
Perhaps Coates, Cartwright, Scholes the club captain should follow suit, I for one am sick of the ridiculous platitudes and sound bites coming out of the club from all directions, that includes Bauer. It stinks from top to bottom.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 22, 2018 17:37:06 GMT
Not his fault again then? What were the odds, poor Gary. He admitted responsibility for today's result. No he didn’t. He basically said he was too forgiving. The football equivalent of “girls don’t like me because I’m just too nice a guy”.
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Post by StatesideStokie on Sept 22, 2018 17:37:11 GMT
I truly don’t give a flying fuck what Bauer has done. Rowett shouldn’t be using a presser to deflect after a performance like that. Bauer hasnt been near the team for over a month, and Rowett needs to focus on addressing the absolute shit show that he’s presiding over on the pitch. I’m honestly starting to really dislike the bloke - something about him isn’t right, and he seems unwilling to take responsibility for anything.
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Post by ohbottom on Sept 22, 2018 17:37:56 GMT
Spoke longer criticising a player who wasn't on the pitch than he did about those who played What a load of rubbish, he spoke about the game and issues a lot longer than Bauer. He can't say anything with people moaning, he has pretty much said what everyone else has been saying! Yet people are moaning, when he tries not to criticise... People moan. It is getting ridiculous!! I may have missed something as I had to take a phone call part way through the interview. Which player who played today did he talk about longer than he did Bauer?
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Post by harrysburrow on Sept 22, 2018 17:38:30 GMT
Don't trust him as a manager, but he's clearly being majorly let down by certain individuals. I like Bauer, but it's like he's taking the stance that he made an excellent start to the season and was bewilderingly dropped for no reason? He was very poor first couple of games - granted in no small part due to lack of cover from respective wingers etc. (Just saying).
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Post by followyoudown on Sept 22, 2018 17:40:00 GMT
I truly don’t give a flying fuck what Bauer has done. Rowett shouldn’t be using a presser to deflect after a performance like that. Bauer hasnt been near the team for over a month, and Rowett needs to focus on addressing the absolute shit show that he’s presiding over on the pitch. I’m honestly starting to really dislike the bloke - something about him isn’t right, and he seems unwilling to take responsibility for anything. Particularly bringing in a bloke who looks no better than Bauer or Edwards to start with.
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Post by poethebald on Sept 22, 2018 17:40:10 GMT
Rowett did take responsibility for today's performance. He stated that ultimately he was responsible and he had been too loyal to certain players.
He did rip into the defence, calling out Shawcross, which the majority have been doing.He was rightly furious with regard to Bauers Social media's exploits.He stated that he had spoken to Bauer yesterday about his Social Media activities.Now if you are at work and your manager tells you not to do something....most people would comply as they know the consequences of not doing so.Interestingly, Rowett said that they had been battling against "this kind of thing"since they arrived,I take it that he means his management team.
I would agree that the manager does not at this stage seem to be a tactical genius.However, we have now had three managers who have been unable to get a tune out of pretty much the same players.
It is plausible to suggest that there are still some deep running issues with regard to player power with in the squad and questions with regard to who is really pulling the strings at out club?
All of which needs to be addressed very quickly or we will end up in a desperate state.
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Post by chamberlain on Sept 22, 2018 17:43:23 GMT
The performances arent good enough , but i cant see that he said much wrong in that interview
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Post by toppercorner on Sept 22, 2018 17:44:48 GMT
now i've listened to it, it's not as dramatic as has been made out.
yes he took the blame, yes he blamed players (particularly the defence) and yes Bauer got a dig but only when named by the interviewer. He no longer has anywhere to hide in my eyes, it's 'his' team and he should be managing better.
i didn't like that he thinks the fans are to blame a little too, and that his subs work (so start with that team then gary!)
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 22, 2018 17:46:05 GMT
Rowett did take responsibility for today's performance. He stated that ultimately he was responsible and he had been too loyal to certain players. He did rip into the defence, calling out Shawcross, which the majority have been doing.He was rightly furious with regard to Bauers Social media's exploits.He stated that he had spoken to Bauer yesterday about his Social Media activities.Now if you are at work and your manager tells you not to do something....most people would comply as they know the consequences of not doing so.Interestingly, Rowett said that they had been battling against "this kind of thing"since they arrived,I take it that he means his management team. I would agree that the manager does not at this stage seem to be a tactical genius.However, we have now had three managers who have been unable to get a tune out of pretty much the same players. It is plausible to suggest that there are still some deep running issues with regard to player power with in the squad and questions with regard to who is really pulling the strings at out club? All of which needs to be addressed very quickly or we will end up in a desperate state. “I’m responsible for trusting you.” The “you” is the person in that sentence being singled out for blame. The “I” is painting themselves as being a benevolent, overly patient soul whose only fault is they have too much faith in people.
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Post by ohbottom on Sept 22, 2018 17:46:22 GMT
Spoke longer criticising a player who wasn't on the pitch than he did about those who played This is incorrect and misinformation. I don't mind criticism of anyone of the facts are correct. It is not going to help anyone. Well I'll admit I didn't have a stopwatch to time how long he spoke about each individual player, but he certainly went on at length about Bauer. It's highly unusual to hear any manager criticising one of his players to that extent at any time, let alone immediately after losing a game in which said player took no part.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Sept 22, 2018 17:52:56 GMT
Rowett is getting almost everything wrong but let’s be clear Bauer has done nothing this season to deserve to play. He did nothing to deserve to be dropped either
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Post by stantheman on Sept 22, 2018 17:55:01 GMT
I truly don’t give a flying fuck what Bauer has done. Rowett shouldn’t be using a presser to deflect after a performance like that. Bauer hasnt been near the team for over a month, and Rowett needs to focus on addressing the absolute shit show that he’s presiding over on the pitch. I’m honestly starting to really dislike the bloke - something about him isn’t right, and he seems unwilling to take responsibility for anything. Deflecting my cock. Have you seen Bauers stupid messages this week? The manager was asked a question about a player who spends more time on social media than he does kicking a ball.
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Post by poethebald on Sept 22, 2018 17:55:01 GMT
Rowett did take responsibility for today's performance. He stated that ultimately he was responsible and he had been too loyal to certain players. He did rip into the defence, calling out Shawcross, which the majority have been doing.He was rightly furious with regard to Bauers Social media's exploits.He stated that he had spoken to Bauer yesterday about his Social Media activities.Now if you are at work and your manager tells you not to do something....most people would comply as they know the consequences of not doing so.Interestingly, Rowett said that they had been battling against "this kind of thing"since they arrived,I take it that he means his management team. I would agree that the manager does not at this stage seem to be a tactical genius.However, we have now had three managers who have been unable to get a tune out of pretty much the same players. It is plausible to suggest that there are still some deep running issues with regard to player power with in the squad and questions with regard to who is really pulling the strings at out club? All of which needs to be addressed very quickly or we will end up in a desperate state. “I’m responsible for trusting you.” The “you” is the person in that sentence being singled out for blame. The “I” is painting themselves as being a benevolent, overly patient soul whose only fault is they have too much faith in people. I would agree with Rowett,that Bauer was out of Order. I would suggest that three managers have been unable to get this shower to defend appropriately.I would think that anyone in their right mind would agree that our defenders are not performing to the levels expected..What do you think?
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Sept 22, 2018 17:55:46 GMT
Rowett is getting almost everything wrong but let’s be clear Bauer has done nothing this season to deserve to play. He did nothing to deserve to be dropped either He did he was poor, however the loan replacing him has been iffy
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Sept 22, 2018 17:56:49 GMT
“I’m responsible for trusting you.” The “you” is the person in that sentence being singled out for blame. The “I” is painting themselves as being a benevolent, overly patient soul whose only fault is they have too much faith in people. I would agree with Rowett,that Bauer was out of Order. I would suggest that three managers have been unable to get this shower to defend appropriately.I would think that anyone in their right mind would agree that our defenders are not performing to the levels expected..What do you think? How exactly was Bauer out of order?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2018 17:57:41 GMT
“I’m responsible for trusting you.” The “you” is the person in that sentence being singled out for blame. The “I” is painting themselves as being a benevolent, overly patient soul whose only fault is they have too much faith in people. I would agree with Rowett,that Bauer was out of Order. I would suggest that three managers have been unable to get this shower to defend appropriately.I would think that anyone in their right mind would agree that our defenders are not performing to the levels expected..What do you think? Lambert did get them defending appropriately.
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Post by wuzza on Sept 22, 2018 17:58:26 GMT
Rowett is getting almost everything wrong but let’s be clear Bauer has done nothing this season to deserve to play. He did nothing to deserve to be dropped either He did a lot of not being in the right place and giving the ball away in ridiculous area of the pitch. Not alone in this I’ll grant you but he still has no room to complain at all. If he had been an even vaguely competent defender he would never have been dropped.
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Post by steewee on Sept 22, 2018 17:59:57 GMT
What an absolute mess we are all over. On the pitch, off the pitch and everywhere in between. No confidence in RowOUT sorting this shambles. Think he's out of his depth big style. Comes across like a fish out of water
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2018 18:00:10 GMT
He admitted responsibility for today's result. No he didn’t. He basically said he was too forgiving. The football equivalent of “girls don’t like me because I’m just too nice a guy”. He held his hands up and said he's accountable. He's right, but the players, especially at the back and senior pro's are letting him down massively.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 22, 2018 18:01:02 GMT
I truly don’t give a flying fuck what Bauer has done. Rowett shouldn’t be using a presser to deflect after a performance like that. Bauer hasnt been near the team for over a month, and Rowett needs to focus on addressing the absolute shit show that he’s presiding over on the pitch. I’m honestly starting to really dislike the bloke - something about him isn’t right, and he seems unwilling to take responsibility for anything. Deflecting my cock. Have you seen Bauers stupid messages this week? The manager was asked a question about a player who spends more time on social media than he does kicking a ball. It’s possibly not clever but it’s harmless enough? Suggesting it gave Blackburn any kind of insider knowledge advantage is full on swivel eyed meltdown stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2018 18:01:43 GMT
Rowett is getting almost everything wrong but let’s be clear Bauer has done nothing this season to deserve to play. He did nothing to deserve to be dropped either The only mistake Rowett has made is not dropping some of the other useless sacks of shit as well.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 22, 2018 18:01:55 GMT
“I’m responsible for trusting you.” The “you” is the person in that sentence being singled out for blame. The “I” is painting themselves as being a benevolent, overly patient soul whose only fault is they have too much faith in people. I would agree with Rowett,that Bauer was out of Order. I would suggest that three managers have been unable to get this shower to defend appropriately.I would think that anyone in their right mind would agree that our defenders are not performing to the levels expected..What do you think? Lambert got the team defending pretty well actually, it was the other end that was the problem under him. It’s quite literally his job to get them performing. That’s what management is.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 22, 2018 18:03:13 GMT
No he didn’t. He basically said he was too forgiving. The football equivalent of “girls don’t like me because I’m just too nice a guy”. He held his hands up and said he's accountable. He's right, but the players, especially at the back and senior pro's are letting him down massively. He’s only said he’s accountable because he’s just too darn cuddly and trusting. It’s a humblebrag, not a genuine acceptance of responsibility. His tactics are as big a problem as anything.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 22, 2018 18:04:39 GMT
He did nothing to deserve to be dropped either The only mistake Rowett has made is not dropping some of the other useless sacks of shit as well. And only starting with one creative player. And not designating a penalty taker. And all those mental substitutions in previous weeks.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2018 18:05:16 GMT
He held his hands up and said he's accountable. He's right, but the players, especially at the back and senior pro's are letting him down massively. He’s only said he’s accountable because he’s just too darn cuddly and trusting. It’s a humblebrag, not a genuine acceptance of responsibility. His tactics are as big a problem as anything. He's right though. The defence is letting the rest of the team down massively. Get that right and we'd be ok in my opinion but he fell into the trap of believing senior pro's like our captain would come good.
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