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Post by numpty40 on Sept 20, 2018 19:39:56 GMT
very pleased so far, Woods is what we were crying out for all last season, Afobe will bag us 20 goals this season, Ince will get better as the season goes on and Martina looks better every game I've seen him.
Federici is a more than capable back up keeper.
I'm still not convinced by McClean and Williams and we've not seen Clucas yet.
Overall I'm more impressed with his signings than the man himself, but credit where it's due.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 20, 2018 19:43:18 GMT
Are they his signings though?  |
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Sept 20, 2018 19:44:12 GMT
It’s what he wasn’t able to bring in that is the concern.
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Post by lstokie on Sept 20, 2018 19:48:05 GMT
First two replies sum up this board. Nice positive post and they both try and find something negative from it.
Anyway, not forgetting Ince and Etebo? Unless they were here before Rowett, both great players too.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 20, 2018 20:09:11 GMT
First two replies sum up this board. Nice positive post and they both try and find something negative from it. Anyway, not forgetting Ince and Etebo? Unless they were here before Rowett, both great players too. And your post sums up one of the things that frustrates me with this board. Even when you put a great big winky thing on your post some people still fail to recognise irony and sarcasm.  |
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Post by Roger Everyone on Sept 20, 2018 20:13:25 GMT
They certainly are better than wimmer and Imbula and dare i say Saido...
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Post by tony1234 on Sept 20, 2018 20:17:13 GMT
He's done more right than wrong. With so many decisions, not bad at all. Good to give credit where its due
Biggest mistake/oversight was only having 2 players in the squad who can create/score enough goals to move us up the table - we needed at least another and probably 2 more - aka Villa, Derby, Boro, WBA.
Woods, Ince, Afobe, Cuco - all very good. Feel Clucas will fit into this lot once up and running. Etobo good.
Fed - pragmatic. Glad we didn't spend 6m on a back up. Williams, useful and necessary. Similarly, we could have spent another 15m on Chester and am sort of glad we didn't because defence was about organisation for me and, while another body was needed, felt we didn't need to shell out a massive chunk of budget in this league. Perm recruits bar Maclean are all mid 20s and below, so that's very very good.
Maclean - okay squad player but overpaid for him and could have done with another player who was going to score or create 10+ goals up top aka Snodgrass, Hoilett, Mo Barrow, Tom Lawrence sort. (Would have been happy to sell Allen to fund if needed)
Only failures were in not shifting deadwood (because they were badly recruited and contracts they were on were stupid and the squad badly managed from above); or not getting fees for ECM, a fraction of Shaq's value etc. But the failures for this lie elsewhere. The implications of this are that we might have had another 20m from getting the right fee for Shaq, and traditionally relegated teams get fees for the players they offload. In our case, ECM, Imbula, Wimmer, N'Diaye got us f-all when they should have represented 20m going back into the pot.
Decent work so far from Rowett, not short of mistakes, but equally some good calls made too - he gets 6 or 7/10. And if I was the Board, I'd certainly be trusting him to spend wisely - he should have credit in the bank for his signings going fwds.
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Post by superheroantonius on Sept 20, 2018 20:36:13 GMT
Woods is an inspired signing and Afobe, a good one
He has signed some good players
Looking from the outside , I personally think GR may have had to force the Woods signing .The pizza boys seemed to be dragging their feet with that one .I could be wrong but it looked that way to me .
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Post by lstokie on Sept 20, 2018 20:44:29 GMT
First two replies sum up this board. Nice positive post and they both try and find something negative from it. Anyway, not forgetting Ince and Etebo? Unless they were here before Rowett, both great players too. And your post sums up one of the things that frustrates me with this board. Even when you put a great big winky thing on your post some people still fail to recognise irony and sarcasm. I recognised it.. Just wasn't funny, original or contribute to discussion in any sort of way. |
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Post by cobhamstokey on Sept 20, 2018 20:53:59 GMT
very pleased so far, Woods is what we were crying out for all last season, Afobe will bag us 20 goals this season, Ince will get better as the season goes on and Martina looks better every game I've seen him. Federici is a more than capable back up keeper. I'm still not convinced by McClean and Williams and we've not seen Clucas yet. Overall I'm more impressed with his signings than the man himself, but credit where it's due. We have a better team than we did in the PL. With the exception of Shaq they’re upgrades. Woods looks top class and if he stays fit he’ll be our player of the season. Afobe I really like and he’ll improve as his fitness increases. Martina looks really good particularly going forward. Etebo is ace. Ince has a touch of class about him Even McClean who I had my doubts about has impressed me with his great work rate. |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 20, 2018 20:55:06 GMT
And your post sums up one of the things that frustrates me with this board. Even when you put a great big winky thing on your post some people still fail to recognise irony and sarcasm. I recognised it.. Just wasn't funny, original or contribute to discussion in any sort of way. Oooh get you. Auditioning for the job of Oatcake headmaster are we? Sorry I'll behave at the back sir. Don't give me that 'I recognised it' bollocks either. If that was the case why did you initially accuse me of being negative, when you've now conceded that I was making a very lame joke pretending to be negative? PS and I'm not sure one post constitutes a discussion but I accept that's being slightly pedantic. |
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Post by lstokie on Sept 20, 2018 20:56:17 GMT
I recognised it.. Just wasn't funny, original or contribute to discussion in any sort of way. Oooh get you. Auditioning for the job of Oatcake headmaster are we? Sorry I'll behave at the back sir. Don't give me that 'I recognised it' bollocks either. If that was the case why did you initially accuse me of being negative, when you've now conceded that I was making a very lame joke pretending to be negative? PS and I'm not sure one post constitutes a discussion but I accept that's being slightly pedantic. You're right, your intellect went straight over my head |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 20, 2018 21:00:01 GMT
Oooh get you. Auditioning for the job of Oatcake headmaster are we? Sorry I'll behave at the back sir. Don't give me that 'I recognised it' bollocks either. If that was the case why did you initially accuse me of being negative, when you've now conceded that I was making a very lame joke pretending to be negative? PS and I'm not sure one post constitutes a discussion but I accept that's being slightly pedantic. You're right, your intellect went straight over my head Oh stop being such a stuffed shirt. It was meant as a joke. A crap one possibly. And you didn't get it. I can live with that. Goodnight. |
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Sept 20, 2018 21:00:54 GMT
I recognised it.. Just wasn't funny, original or contribute to discussion in any sort of way. Oooh get you. Auditioning for the job of Oatcake headmaster are we? Sorry I'll behave at the back sir. Don't give me that 'I recognised it' bollocks either. If that was the case why did you initially accuse me of being negative, when you've now conceded that I was making a very lame joke pretending to be negative? PS and I'm not sure one post constitutes a discussion but I accept that's being slightly pedantic. It was a lame joke though just to confirm |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 20, 2018 21:03:25 GMT
Oooh get you. Auditioning for the job of Oatcake headmaster are we? Sorry I'll behave at the back sir. Don't give me that 'I recognised it' bollocks either. If that was the case why did you initially accuse me of being negative, when you've now conceded that I was making a very lame joke pretending to be negative? PS and I'm not sure one post constitutes a discussion but I accept that's being slightly pedantic. It was a lame joke though just to confirm It's my forte. |
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Sept 20, 2018 21:08:00 GMT
Woods will be a brilliant signing.
Afobe is starting to look the part.
Ince is very disappointing for me. So is Martina, I thought he offered nothing going forward the other night.
Etebo has promise but again, I'm concerned with how little he offers in the final third.
Mcclean, jury is out. Clucas, hopefully will get to see him play.
Williams. Not sure. Utter shit against wigan.
Federici I'm sure will do a job as back up keeper.
As another poster keeps saying...we really needed an attacking creator, preferably at left wing. I don't see mcclean giving us many goals or assists.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Sept 20, 2018 21:28:26 GMT
You're right, your intellect went straight over my head Oh stop being such a stuffed shirt. It was meant as a joke. A crap one possibly. And you didn't get it. I can live with that. Goodnight. I’m happy enough to stick with my “negative” post (might take some heat off you LG  , because despite the positive signings when you look at the whole we are seriously underachieving. |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 20, 2018 21:30:53 GMT
Oh stop being such a stuffed shirt. It was meant as a joke. A crap one possibly. And you didn't get it. I can live with that. Goodnight. I’m happy enough to stick with my “negative” post (might take some heat off you LG , because despite the positive signings when you look at the whole we are seriously underachieving. And the irony is mate I'm a fully paid up card holding member of the Happy Clapping Club. It's you negative fuckers getting me in the shit. PS for the avoidance of any doubt that was another (very bad) joke. |
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Post by Jimmyg on Sept 21, 2018 2:32:13 GMT
afobe,Ince and woods all great signings imo
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Post by clarkeda on Sept 21, 2018 6:10:02 GMT
If he’d bought Watkins over McClean it would have been an inspired window by all accounts. I bet Watkins would have been a similar fee and cheaper wages too  |
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Post by supersimonstainrod on Sept 21, 2018 6:14:04 GMT
Are they his signings though? Carto is already priming Spinksy for the article on the Sentinel website..... |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Sept 21, 2018 8:04:07 GMT
If he’d bought Watkins over McClean it would have been an inspired window by all accounts. I bet Watkins would have been a similar fee and cheaper wages too Yeah I don't understand that one at all, Watkins would have been perfect for us. |
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Post by mattythestokie on Sept 21, 2018 8:37:08 GMT
Ryan Woods will be the glue for the team.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Sept 21, 2018 11:43:15 GMT
If he’d bought Watkins over McClean it would have been an inspired window by all accounts. I bet Watkins would have been a similar fee and cheaper wages too Yeah I don't understand that one at all, Watkins would have been perfect for us. And now he'd probably cost at least £10 million. |
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Post by jezzascfc on Sept 21, 2018 12:19:53 GMT
Yeah I don't understand that one at all, Watkins would have been perfect for us. And now he'd probably cost at least £10 million. I've been going on about Watkins for yonks, since my old man, who lives in Devon, said he was a bit special and worth our taking a look at when he was a kiddie at Exeter. But, no, we preferred to go abroad for Choupo, Jese and the like!! Until this season, had we done any scouting in the leagues below the Premier League in the last ten years? It appears not. As for the original subject of the thread, Rowett definitely has credit in his account based on his signings. Afobe, Ince and Woods look to be inspired choices, Clucas yet to be seen, McClean is a bit of a strange one - we overpaid for what is an honest trier, when maybe more flair, goals and pace would have been better. Martina is doing well, even though one could argue Bauer could do the same job, and Williams was a poor choice, to my mind, when a more youthful option would have been preferable. Federici is a like for like for Grant and decent enough cover. Etebo was not his man, but looks the part. |
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Post by kustokie on Sept 21, 2018 12:23:18 GMT
It’s what he wasn’t able to bring in that is the concern. WIP. This might take more than one season. Afobe is definitely the man. Woods, Etebo, McLean, ince and Martini (if he will stay) are definite upgrades. The center and left side of the defence is the problem and needs a complete overhaulbecause they on the back sides of their careers. Butland is replaceable but might stay another season because he is not what he what he used bê - he didn’t get any exposure in the WC and hasn’t impressed since. So his value has dropped significantly. |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 21, 2018 12:24:56 GMT
And now he'd probably cost at least £10 million. I've been going on about Watkins for yonks, since my old man, who lives in Devon, said he was a bit special and worth our taking a look at when he was a kiddie at Exeter. But, no, we preferred to go abroad for Choupo, Jese and the like!! Until this season, had we done any scouting in the leagues below the Premier League in the last ten years? It appears not. The problem is mate had we brought him in from Exeter he'd never have been given a chance and his ability would have withered away in the reserves or out on loan. At least at Brentford he and Woods were given a chance to develop. The trick for a club like us is to scout them from clubs like Brentford before every other club similar to us becomes aware and that's a very difficult balancing act. |
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Post by cousindupree on Sept 21, 2018 12:25:24 GMT
His signings have been perhaps the best aspect of Rowett's short time here. Better than his tactical awareness or his game management strategy.
Woods, although early days looks an excellent signing. But we have needed a DM for years.
Clucas if ever fit should be a useful utility player and a young replacement for Cameron
Ince we all knew he was good at this level but his composure in front of goal is surprisingly poor.
Martina Can't say I thought we needed this signing but has done OK. Better than Bauer? Not sure.
Afobe top signing and the 15+ goal man we simply had to have to have any chance.
Williams A knee jerk reaction to poor defensive displays by Shawcross and BMI. Our defence was woeful last season and needed some youthful upgrade. Should have been a main priority
McClean Poor signing on many levels.
So a 6/10 from me. My main gripe is that if Rowett is insistent on sticking with 4-3-3 then to score enough goals and win 25 plus games with that formation you have to have significant goal contributions from midfield...Allen Etebo and Woods might contribute 3 or 4 maximum. Failing that you have to have major contributions from ALL of the front 3. Afobe and Ince, if he manages to put his shooting boots on the correct way around, will deliver but McClean has never been a goalscorer. That's why McClean was a major error and we should have looked for better.
Lack of match winners will be our failing this season for sure.
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Post by cheadlestokie on Sept 21, 2018 12:29:55 GMT
It’s what he wasn’t able to bring in that is the concern. Every manager has players that cannot be brought in for all sorts of reasons at all clubs. |
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Post by clarkeda on Sept 21, 2018 14:35:53 GMT
Yeah I don't understand that one at all, Watkins would have been perfect for us. And now he'd probably cost at least £10 million. Would still pay it if we could get rid of diouf |
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, because despite the positive signings when you look at the whole we are seriously underachieving. 
