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Post by wakefieldstokie on Sept 16, 2018 17:56:35 GMT
So nearly a stoke city combo, meh coulda, woulda, shoulda. We’ve got McClean and Ince🤔😬
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 16, 2018 17:57:21 GMT
Am I the only one who wants Arnie to break his leg every time I watch him for West Ham? The utter cunt.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 16, 2018 17:59:40 GMT
I remember people on here saying Jon Walters was the better player. They've all been sectioned by now hopefully. Judging by some of the stuff we still see on here then some of the little blighters escaped the keep net I recall some mocking West Ham , Palace and Bournemouth as they invested while we sold one of them our prize asset and stood still
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 16, 2018 18:01:21 GMT
So nearly a stoke city combo, meh coulda, woulda, shoulda. We’ve got McClean and Ince🤔😬 Yep but we are sustainable ( don’t mention the £100m revenue loss pike )
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Post by slpmarc on Sept 16, 2018 18:04:43 GMT
You seem to forget when Hughes first was appointed the likes of Scholes and Cartwright had a large input into signings this was lessened after two years as Hughes did not like the control they had so he could bring in the players he wanted. Rowett has full control as that’s what he wanted and Jon Coates gave it to him Yeah of course he did! I can imagine the conversation. GR- 'So I want full control with no interference from the fat Leek goalkeeper and your favourite lick spittle and chief negotiator Tony Scholes' JC- No problems it's yours! My hairy arse it is! H Believe what you want to believe, I just know what I know. Just like I know that Scholes wanted Dwight Gayle but Rowett came in and said I want Benik Afobe. John Coates backed Rowett even over McClean who Scholes had reservations over and thought we could of got better for less.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 16, 2018 18:12:21 GMT
Yeah of course he did! I can imagine the conversation. GR- 'So I want full control with no interference from the fat Leek goalkeeper and your favourite lick spittle and chief negotiator Tony Scholes' JC- No problems it's yours! My hairy arse it is! H Believe what you want to believe, I just know what I know. Just like I know that Scholes wanted Dwight Gayle but Rowett came in and said I want Benik Afobe. John Coates backed Rowett even over McClean who Scholes had reservations over and thought we could of got better for less. It sounds to me that Scholes has way too much influence on playing matters if that is true. What fucking right does a Blackburn accountant have to decide if Gayle is a better bet than Afobe?
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 16, 2018 18:14:32 GMT
Yeah of course he did! I can imagine the conversation. GR- 'So I want full control with no interference from the fat Leek goalkeeper and your favourite lick spittle and chief negotiator Tony Scholes' JC- No problems it's yours! My hairy arse it is! H Believe what you want to believe, I just know what I know. Just like I know that Scholes wanted Dwight Gayle but Rowett came in and said I want Benik Afobe. John Coates backed Rowett even over McClean who Scholes had reservations over and thought we could of got better for less. It’s fair enough you hold your conviction , if your correct suggests we were never in for Gayle after afoebe . Also if your right Rowetts judgement around McLean is clearly flawed . what’s your interpretation / knowledge of contracts for Bauer , Allen and Shawcross and the following treatment of Bauer
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Post by slpmarc on Sept 16, 2018 18:19:15 GMT
Believe what you want to believe, I just know what I know. Just like I know that Scholes wanted Dwight Gayle but Rowett came in and said I want Benik Afobe. John Coates backed Rowett even over McClean who Scholes had reservations over and thought we could of got better for less. It sounds to me that Scholes has way too much influence on playing matters if that is true. What fucking right does a Blackburn accountant have to decide if Gayle is a better bet than Afobe? Gayle was one of the players offered to Rowett as we knew he was available and had excellent pedigree in the Championship. That’s Cartwrights role, not a point of on influence over playing matters it’s about getting the best deal for a player both financially and ability wise. Rowett wants who he wants and hasn’t taken any players that have been offered as alternatives. Only time will tell if the likes of McClean, Ince and Afobe can get us out the league
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Post by slpmarc on Sept 16, 2018 18:21:31 GMT
Believe what you want to believe, I just know what I know. Just like I know that Scholes wanted Dwight Gayle but Rowett came in and said I want Benik Afobe. John Coates backed Rowett even over McClean who Scholes had reservations over and thought we could of got better for less. It’s fair enough you hold your conviction , if your correct suggests we were never in for Gayle after afoebe . Also if your right Rowetts judgement around McLean is clearly flawed . what’s your interpretation / knowledge of contracts for Bauer , Allen and Shawcross and the following treatment of Bauer Rowett is not impressed that Bauer has been given an improved contract.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 16, 2018 18:23:45 GMT
It’s fair enough you hold your conviction , if your correct suggests we were never in for Gayle after afoebe . Also if your right Rowetts judgement around McLean is clearly flawed . what’s your interpretation / knowledge of contracts for Bauer , Allen and Shawcross and the following treatment of Bauer Rowett is not impressed that Bauer has been given an improved contract. He doesn't have to be such a wanker about it though surely?
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 16, 2018 18:26:57 GMT
It’s fair enough you hold your conviction , if your correct suggests we were never in for Gayle after afoebe . Also if your right Rowetts judgement around McLean is clearly flawed . what’s your interpretation / knowledge of contracts for Bauer , Allen and Shawcross and the following treatment of Bauer Rowett is not impressed that Bauer has been given an improved contract. Marc isn’t that the point he therefore was not in control , he may be now who knows , but he wasnt when key decisions were being made right or wrong
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 16, 2018 18:29:59 GMT
Hey what's going on? ITKery's going on and it's not a transfer window.
Is this allowed Admin?
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Post by slpmarc on Sept 16, 2018 18:34:38 GMT
Rowett is not impressed that Bauer has been given an improved contract. Marc isn’t that the point he therefore was not in control , he may be now who knows , but he wasnt when key decisions were being made right or wrong Bauer contract was before Rowett signed but was in talks
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Post by RAF on Sept 16, 2018 18:38:43 GMT
Yeah of course he did! I can imagine the conversation. GR- 'So I want full control with no interference from the fat Leek goalkeeper and your favourite lick spittle and chief negotiator Tony Scholes' JC- No problems it's yours! My hairy arse it is! H Believe what you want to believe, I just know what I know. Just like I know that Scholes wanted Dwight Gayle but Rowett came in and said I want Benik Afobe. John Coates backed Rowett even over McClean who Scholes had reservations over and thought we could of got better for less. Why would John Coates need to back Rowett over any player if he had already granted him full control? H
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 16, 2018 18:42:15 GMT
Marc isn’t that the point he therefore was not in control , he may be now who knows , but he wasnt when key decisions were being made right or wrong Bauer contract was before Rowett signed but was in talks Fair enough Marc thanks for being clear . Doesn’t really fit with we aren’t changing the process as it worked and hughes saying process was an obstacle , but your clear and that’s all anyone can ask , feels to me like it always has that we’ve just put our faith in a man who has nothing in his record to suggest he can do it , ultimately another recruitment issue , and also at odds with the rumour a high profile man was overlooked as he wanted his own TD
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Post by slpmarc on Sept 16, 2018 18:44:35 GMT
Believe what you want to believe, I just know what I know. Just like I know that Scholes wanted Dwight Gayle but Rowett came in and said I want Benik Afobe. John Coates backed Rowett even over McClean who Scholes had reservations over and thought we could of got better for less. Why would John Coates need to back Rowett over any player if he had already granted him full control? H Because Scholes had raised concerns as he should and would do. John heard them but backed Rowett, as he would do being he was the one that appointed him.
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Post by upthefud on Sept 16, 2018 18:46:37 GMT
Arnie is a one man tour de force, an extraordinary player, between him and Zonz for our best of the modern era. I can remember people on here saying that Victor Moses was the better player Didn’t Moses play a massive part in Chelsea winning the league? Not sure how it’s so hilarious to suggest he was the better player. As a left winger he was better for us at the time
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Post by RAF on Sept 16, 2018 18:49:50 GMT
Why would John Coates need to back Rowett over any player if he had already granted him full control? H Because Scholes had raised concerns as he should and would do. John heard them but backed Rowett, as he would do being he was the one that appointed him. That's not having full control then is it? H
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2018 18:51:20 GMT
I can remember people on here saying that Victor Moses was the better player Didn’t Moses play a massive part in Chelsea winning the league? Not sure how it’s so hilarious to suggest he was the better player. As a left winger he was better for us at the time Arnautovic can and always has been able to do things with a football that Victor Moses could only dream of doing. He's in a different class to Moses and his stats prove it. Moses was that good at left wing he got moved to left back.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2018 18:58:16 GMT
Why would John Coates need to back Rowett over any player if he had already granted him full control? H Because Scholes had raised concerns as he should and would do. Should? If what you're saying is true then maybe Gary should raise concerns about how Scholes is running the commercial side of the business, just to even things up a bit? Maybe he should ask questions about how this multi million pound business was led silently away from the big league and hundreds of millions of pounds worth of TV money per season under his stewardship? I'm sure that will go down well.
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Post by slpmarc on Sept 16, 2018 19:05:03 GMT
Because Scholes had raised concerns as he should and would do. Should? If what you're saying is true then maybe Gary should raise concerns about how Scholes is running the commercial side of the business, just to even things up a bit? Maybe he should ask questions about how this multi million pound business was led silently away from the big league and hundreds of millions of pounds worth of TV money per season under his stewardship? I'm sure that will go down well. That should be the Coates’s families concerns to ask
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Post by upthefud on Sept 16, 2018 19:32:16 GMT
Didn’t Moses play a massive part in Chelsea winning the league? Not sure how it’s so hilarious to suggest he was the better player. As a left winger he was better for us at the time Arnautovic can and always has been able to do things with a football that Victor Moses could only dream of doing. He's in a different class to Moses and his stats prove it. Moses was that good at left wing he got moved to left back. Are you having a laugh? What if I say “Arnie was that good at left wing he got moved up front”. Victor Moses is an excellent player who’d be at the very top of the game if it wasn’t for injury trouble. His first 6 months for us were fantastic and he rightly kept Arnie out of the side
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 16, 2018 19:36:07 GMT
Hi Tony nice to see you on here again You seem to forget when Hughes first was appointed the likes of Scholes and Cartwright had a large input into signings this was lessened after two years as Hughes did not like the control they had so he could bring in the players he wanted. Rowett has full control as that’s what he wanted and Jon Coates gave it to him If rowett wanted and got full control why did it take so long to get woods here?
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Post by slpmarc on Sept 16, 2018 19:38:05 GMT
You seem to forget when Hughes first was appointed the likes of Scholes and Cartwright had a large input into signings this was lessened after two years as Hughes did not like the control they had so he could bring in the players he wanted. Rowett has full control as that’s what he wanted and Jon Coates gave it to him If rowett wanted and got full control why did it take so long to get woods here? Probably because transfer are not easy, you cannot just click a button on a computer and you’ve brought a player
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 16, 2018 19:41:17 GMT
If rowett wanted and got full control why did it take so long to get woods here? Probably because transfer are not easy, you cannot just click a button on a computer and you’ve brought a player It's not easy when the player would only consider moves to 2 clubs, one of which was us? Rowett wanted him the second he walked through the door, the player wanted to come, brentford wanted to sell yet it still wasn't easy?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2018 19:41:20 GMT
Arnautovic can and always has been able to do things with a football that Victor Moses could only dream of doing. He's in a different class to Moses and his stats prove it. Moses was that good at left wing he got moved to left back. Are you having a laugh? What if I say “Arnie was that good at left wing he got moved up front”. Victor Moses is an excellent player who’d be at the very top of the game if it wasn’t for injury trouble. His first 6 months for us were fantastic and he rightly kept Arnie out of the side In my opinion it was a travesty that he kept Arnie out of our team and I was very vocal about it at the time.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 16, 2018 19:42:18 GMT
Hughes signed him scholes and co sold him for £25m and replaced him with Jesse Cartwright got Arnautovic and Hughes pleaded with Peter Coates to get Jese. You've tried to peddle this nonsense before, that Hughes didn't have a hand in the Barca players turning up even though Hughes has clear links, it was rubbish then and its rubbish now.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 16, 2018 19:43:38 GMT
Believe what you want to believe, I just know what I know. Just like I know that Scholes wanted Dwight Gayle but Rowett came in and said I want Benik Afobe. John Coates backed Rowett even over McClean who Scholes had reservations over and thought we could of got better for less. It sounds to me that Scholes has way too much influence on playing matters if that is true. What fucking right does a Blackburn accountant have to decide if Gayle is a better bet than Afobe? I don't think its true, its slp, they've been shown to know sod all
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 16, 2018 19:46:19 GMT
Marc isn’t that the point he therefore was not in control , he may be now who knows , but he wasnt when key decisions were being made right or wrong Bauer contract was before Rowett signed but was in talks Rowett signs, 22nd May Bauer signs new contract, 4th July
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2018 19:48:38 GMT
You seem to forget when Hughes first was appointed the likes of Scholes and Cartwright had a large input into signings this was lessened after two years as Hughes did not like the control they had so he could bring in the players he wanted. Rowett has full control as that’s what he wanted and Jon Coates gave it to him If rowett wanted and got full control why did it take so long to get woods here? Woods no doubt spent some time with his agent weighing his options.
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