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Post by wagsastokie on Sept 16, 2018 12:28:18 GMT
I know a full grown bloke that this happened to in the family stand at the Vic in the early 90s. He had to go to hospital to be assessed for burns! Heaven knows what it would do to a young one. I hope her and her family are ok. Most of the pies I’ve had at football are so cold they’d struggle to blister a gnats arse
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Sept 16, 2018 12:33:44 GMT
A good 10 percent of our away support are bellends. Far more interested in getting pissed than the football. Id like to say most of them are teenagers, sadly they're not. Just throwing it out there.... You can get pissed at the football without causing trouble. It's not a necessity to be a drunk prick. Many of us do it every week with no issues whatsoever. Yep, I'm absolutely blitzed off my face at every away game I go to and the majority of home games as well, and I've never caused any trouble to anyone.
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Post by rawli on Sept 16, 2018 12:34:03 GMT
Even during a mental a grown up should have sufficient self control to not lob something that could injure somebody. The twats who chuck precious, precious beer around are bad enough. It doesn't seem to apply here but there is such a thing as 'mental' collateral damage. I've been burned by poorly seasoned Bovril, overly sugared coffee and nearly had my nose broke when Bojan scored at Spurs! I think they were all accidents! Believe me, they weren't.
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Post by rawli on Sept 16, 2018 12:38:51 GMT
‘Sigh’ It’s always you isn’t it. Found another thread to trash haven’t you. No not at all. Accidents happen don’t they. I’m just saying it could easily have happened accidentally, it’s really not that hard of a concept to understand..... How do we know it wasn't a Wednesday fan, the police, one of the catering staff or a steward? Typical to point the finger at Stoke supporters.
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Sept 16, 2018 12:40:47 GMT
A good 10 percent of our away support are bellends. Far more interested in getting pissed than the football. Id like to say most of them are teenagers, sadly they're not. Harsh that is fella A big part of me enjoying an away game is having a drink with my pals who I only see at Stoke games. Its a chance to unwind from the working week and forget about whats going on in your life for a day. Yes, sometimes I get pissed, sometimes (once) I have fell asleep at games, sometimes the match is the worst part of the day and many times the football has ruined my day. However.. A) Im not a bellend B) Id never throw a hot pie in a crowd if your having more than 3 or 4 pints, it ain't a bit of fun and If you really are getting blitzed at the football I think you will find you are pissing people off whether you realise or not. That's not specifically aimed at you but a number of replies seem to think it is normal behaviour to be wasted at the football it's really not. And for the record I enjoy the beer and have occasionally ended up pissed at the football but not every week and certainly not steaming to the point I don't know what I'm doing. clearly we have a fair few of these numbskulls and it's more prevalent at the away games. I've seen guys sinking 6 cans on the train before a game, that's just stupid I don't care what you say.
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Post by JoeinOz on Sept 16, 2018 13:08:14 GMT
Another aspect to all this is the manufactured mental aspect. During the World Cup you'd see you tube clips of England fans chucking their beer up when we scored. Now sometimes it could happen BUT for a penalty to make it 5-0 v Panama? That's ring anbd fake and trying to get filmed to try and become a 'twitter sensation'. Perhaps the pie chucking was someone trying to demonstrate they were so delirious with joy after we scored they lost all control of their actions.
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Post by miggoscfc on Sept 16, 2018 13:14:37 GMT
How can a pie be 'accidentally' thrown 15 - 20 yards? Another towards your daily quota Ah yeah because people don’t just lose it when celebrating a goal...... Pretty easily I’d imagine is the answer when people are going mental for a goal. Only you bayern. Only you could argue this. Maybe if it was promotion goal or a cup winning goal but even then i fail to comprehend how you cant control yourself even when we have scored. Coming from someone who proclaims never to celebrate a mclean goal seemingly has no control over his motor functions for any other goal ? Ok then.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Sept 16, 2018 13:19:27 GMT
It's ridiculous to suggest this may have been an accident. The "mental" doesn't excuse you of your responsibility to your actions. If you throw something in a crowd of people, there's a good chance it will hit somebody. I don't believe for one second he aimed for the girl, but that is irrelevant. In the extremely unlikely even that the pie had accidentally left somebody's hand, at full pelt, and smacked a young girl in the face, said person has had ample opportunity to offer up an apology. And maybe check how the child was. We've scored goals before when I've had food or drink in my hand and I've never thrown anything. It isn't unreasonable to suggest you should have enough restraint, even in the aftermath of a goal, to still exercise a little self control. I don't understand the mentality of chucking beer everywhere either, and this incident appears an extension of that type of behaviour. People don't even do it just after a goal now, they'll happily do it in the concourse at half time. All for the shits and giggles. Maybe I'm just getting a grumpy git in my old age, but the thought of drenching myself in beer and stinking of stale ale for the rest of the day doesn't exactly appeal. And this incident is one step further. It isn't an inconvenience, it's a potential injury to a little girl. I'd be devastated and extremely angry if it was my lad. Absolutely no excuse. Well said excellent post. Unfortunately in society we have idiots who will look for any excuse to cause bother play up Football particularly the World Cup Halloween Protests for various miscarriage of justices
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Post by Gifton on Sept 16, 2018 13:28:43 GMT
How can a pie be 'accidentally' thrown 15 - 20 yards? Another towards your daily quota Ah yeah because people don’t just lose it when celebrating a goal...... Pretty easily I’d imagine is the answer when people are going mental for a goal. Would you go back and collect your pie if you realised James McClean had scored the goal??
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Post by lawrieleslie on Sept 16, 2018 13:31:11 GMT
Are any of you the Stoke fan who threw the pie after Benik Afobe scored our first goal yesterday? If so then maybe you’d be interested to know that you hit a young girl in the face, leaving her hurt, clearly distraught and crying. I’ll just repeat that; YOU HIT A YOUNG GIRL IN THE FACE!!! What kind of brain dead cretin would launch a firm solid object into a crowd of people? Have you got no concept of what damage that can do after travelling 15-20 yards? Oh, and one last time you loser, you hit a young girl in the face! Hope the young girl is ok with no lasting injury. Makes my blood boil that some people on here berate the police for for being heavy handed yesterday when, IMO, it’s fully justified when you read about incidents like this.
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Post by dexta on Sept 16, 2018 13:31:46 GMT
how do you know it was thrown 15 10 yards away Summat to do with him being there and seeing it happen? where in is post did he say he saw it happen...
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Post by dexta on Sept 16, 2018 13:34:49 GMT
Are any of you the Stoke fan who threw the pie after Benik Afobe scored our first goal yesterday? If so then maybe you’d be interested to know that you hit a young girl in the face, leaving her hurt, clearly distraught and crying. I’ll just repeat that; YOU HIT A YOUNG GIRL IN THE FACE!!! What kind of brain dead cretin would launch a firm solid object into a crowd of people? Have you got no concept of what damage that can do after travelling 15-20 yards? Oh, and one last time you loser, you hit a young girl in the face! Hope the young girl is ok with no lasting injury. Makes my blood boil that some people on here berate the police for for being heavy handed yesterday when, IMO, it’s fully justified when you read about incidents like this. wtf as the police being over the top got to do with someone lobbing a pie into a crowd...
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Post by Northy on Sept 16, 2018 13:41:10 GMT
Somebody well off enough to waste a pie?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2018 13:41:24 GMT
Having a mental is up there with the word banter where it's used to justify being a bellend.
Do people really get that excited over Stoke scoring a goal that they cannot control themselves on any level? Or is it used as an excuse to just act like a dick thinking it impresses people.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Sept 16, 2018 13:43:28 GMT
It's fair to say that a lot of people leave the few brain cells they have at home on a Stoke away day , no need for a lot of the stuff that goes on , hope the kid was ok and it doesn't put her off going .
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Sept 16, 2018 13:43:36 GMT
Whoever did it is still a nob but its a fair question to ask if it was just tossed up in the air in a weird celebration or was launched with menace at someone or something. Do you think I’d waste anybody’s time here if I thought it could be an accident? It came whizzing past our seats and smacked a young girl in the face. What kind of accident could it be... Like the time Hitler accidentally invaded Poland? Like the time Oswald accidentally shot Kennedy? Like the time Drake accidentally circumnavigated the globe? Did the pie thrower deliberately aim to hit a girl in the face? Probably not. Did they stop to think of the damage a solid object can do when you hurl it through the air? Absolutely not. To be fair, Goebbels had just scored in the last minute guaranteeing German qualification for the inaugural "Genocidal Moustacheod twats cup", so Hitler then had a mental which accidentally led to a world war. As Bayern rightly says, these things can just happen can't they? Fucking idiotic for a grown adult to try to use a goal as some kind of an excuse for this...idiotic nothing else and anyone trying to say otherwise is just as fucking idiotic
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Post by lawrieleslie on Sept 16, 2018 13:45:57 GMT
Hope the young girl is ok with no lasting injury. Makes my blood boil that some people on here berate the police for for being heavy handed yesterday when, IMO, it’s fully justified when you read about incidents like this. wtf as the police being over the top got to do with someone lobbing a pie into a crowd... What I am saying is that the police will react to the historical behaviour of our fans and this incident justifies their presence. It isn’t as if this is the first incident this season of violence from Stoke fans. I don’t know what your take is on throwing a pie 20m into a crowd that injures a young girl, but in my eyes it’s violent behaviour.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2018 14:04:46 GMT
Plianly smudge had gone off me big style but, I can only fully agree with him in this instance.The act itself was stupid enough but those trying to pass it off as simple exuberance after the fact are: as defective as the moron who actually did it.
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Post by skemstokie on Sept 16, 2018 14:08:14 GMT
wtf as the police being over the top got to do with someone lobbing a pie into a crowd... What I am saying is that the police will react to the historical behaviour of our fans and this incident justifies their presence. It isn’t as if this is the first incident this season of violence from Stoke fans. I don’t know what your take is on throwing a pie 20m into a crowd that injures a young girl, but in my eyes it’s violent behaviour. Whichever way you put it the person on the receiving end was a person supporting the same team as the knob who through (edit threw ) it,which means he has no respect for anyone young old ,male female,just no respect,he should be named,shamed,and banned but i suppose the people who know him think it was funny,high spirits,like my arse
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Post by callas12 on Sept 16, 2018 14:17:16 GMT
Know it's different circumstances but on the subject of owning up to causing injury at a match, did anyone ever own up to pushing Mabel over at Southampton? Can't for a minute imagine they did. & even if that occasion had been the result of an accident I'm sure someone would of gone over and apologised & wanted to help in her aftercare which I recall the person(s) responsible certainly didn't do.. Big & hard thing to do knocking an old lady over isn't it but not got the balls to fess up.. Pattern emerging..?!
Yet im sure in some people's eyes that was purely high jinx banter aswell... Mabel never recovered from that & it's such a shame getting pushed over at a footy match watching the team she loved & supported all her life, ultimately cost her her life. Especially as football was the place where she loved going week in week out.. High Jinx.. whatever!
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Post by xchpotter on Sept 16, 2018 14:32:52 GMT
Know it's different circumstances but on the subject of owning up to causing injury at a match, did anyone ever own up to pushing Mabel over at Southampton? Can't for a minute imagine they did. & even if that occasion had been the result of an accident I'm sure someone would of gone over and apologised & wanted to help in her aftercare which I recall the person(s) responsible certainly didn't do.. Big & hard thing to do knocking an old lady over isn't it but not got the balls to fess up.. Pattern emerging..?! Yet im sure in some people's eyes that was purely high jinx banter aswell... Mabel never recovered from that & it's such a shame getting pushed over at a footy match watching the team she loved & supported all her life, ultimately cost her her life. Especially as football was the place where she loved going week in week out.. High Jinx.. whatever! I watched that shoving take place and wasn’t aware someone was injured and would later go on to die. At the time I thought “bunch of dickheads” and still can’t believe more wasn’t made of it....either directly or indirectly someone died and everyone I saw in that rush and those who joined all had a massive smile on their face and were wilfully engaging in that behaviour.
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Post by bathstoke on Sept 16, 2018 14:45:45 GMT
Whilst I empathise with the young girl, who takes their daughter to an away game in Sheffie, cause I wouldn’t take mine. Does anyone remember 🎯🎱 & coins being thrown. Cardiff brought circular saws! 🥧
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Post by liathroid on Sept 16, 2018 14:58:44 GMT
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Post by scfcno1fan on Sept 16, 2018 15:18:02 GMT
Somebody threw some coke over me and my missus while celebrating (albeit wasn’t that much)
I just can’t comprehend why anyone would do that.
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Post by dexta on Sept 16, 2018 15:20:51 GMT
Whilst I empathise with the young girl, who takes their daughter to an away game in Sheffie, cause I wouldn’t take mine. Does anyone remember 🎯🎱 & coins being thrown. Cardiff brought circular saws! 🥧 you forgot the darts sorry didnt notice your target fella
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Post by shipshape on Sept 16, 2018 15:20:58 GMT
Somebody threw some coke over me and my missus while celebrating (albeit wasn’t that much) I just can’t comprehend why anyone would do that. Did you snort it?
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Post by toppercorner on Sept 16, 2018 15:22:05 GMT
Somebody threw some coke over me and my missus while celebrating (albeit wasn’t that much) I just can’t comprehend why anyone would do that. wow! they must be loaded. did you manage to brush it all off?
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Post by scfcno1fan on Sept 16, 2018 15:22:43 GMT
Somebody threw some coke over me and my missus while celebrating (albeit wasn’t that much) I just can’t comprehend why anyone would do that. Did you snort it? I wish.
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Post by dexta on Sept 16, 2018 15:23:10 GMT
Somebody threw some coke over me and my missus while celebrating (albeit wasn’t that much) I just can’t comprehend why anyone would do that. fucking hell what a waste of money throwing charlie about our away support is gettin worse
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Post by chinesedave on Sept 16, 2018 15:28:24 GMT
I know a full grown bloke that this happened to in the family stand at the Vic in the early 90s. He had to go to hospital to be assessed for burns! Heaven knows what it would do to a young one. I hope her and her family are ok. Most of the pies I’ve had at football are so cold they’d struggle to blister a gnats arse But that temperature loss could increase the density of the pie making it a more dangerous projectile.
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