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Post by madmickthe3rd on Sept 7, 2018 7:38:26 GMT
www.theargus.co.uk/sport/16694426.mathew-ryan-says-albion-recruit-like-the-all-blacks-with-a-no-dheads-policy/When I think about some of the super inflated ego's we have recruited as players over the last 5 years, it is interesting to read about their transfer policy. When you have players like Nzonzi, Arnie and Shaq clearly calling the tunes and then jumping at the first opportunity, is it ever likely we ended up where we are, with a squad like we have? Brighton seem to be doing what we did in our early years in the Prem. Putting a team of 'grateful for the opprtunity' together who fight for the team and accept, without question, the decisions of the manager. We have somehow lost this concept along the way and look what the result has been!
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 7, 2018 7:44:23 GMT
www.theargus.co.uk/sport/16694426.mathew-ryan-says-albion-recruit-like-the-all-blacks-with-a-no-dheads-policy/When I think about some of the super inflated ego's we have recruited as players over the last 5 years, it is interesting to read about their transfer policy. When you have players like Nzonzi, Arnie and Shaq clearly calling the tunes and then jumping at the first opportunity, is it ever likely we ended up where we are, with a squad like we have? Brighton seem to be doing what we did in our early years in the Prem. Putting a team of 'grateful for the opprtunity' together who fight for the team and accept, without question, the decisions of the manager. We have somehow lost this concept along the way and look what the result has been! Let's see how well they're doing 5-6 years in. It was actually the loss of Nzonzi and Arnie that did for us, not them being here. |
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Post by Davef on Sept 7, 2018 7:44:31 GMT
Well let's see what happens at Brighton if they manage ten years in the Premier League.
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Post by leicspotter on Sept 7, 2018 7:50:30 GMT
Not all quality players are dick heads...the 'character' of a player is just as important as the ability, so I reckon Brighton have the right approach...just as we did for such a long time
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Post by rawli on Sept 7, 2018 7:56:13 GMT
Not all quality players are dick heads...the 'character' of a player is just as important as the ability, so I reckon Brighton have the right approach...just as we did for such a long time Pennant Beattie Hendrie |
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Post by lstokie on Sept 7, 2018 8:01:34 GMT
I think its unfair to call Shaq, Arnie or NZonzi 'dickhead' players in all honesty. Bitterness because they left us doesn't mean they were dickheads.
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Post by madmickthe3rd on Sept 7, 2018 8:07:15 GMT
Living down here I get BHA rammed down my throat each and every day and do go to the odd game now and again. Great club to be honest and when you think where they came from, homeless and playing every home game 100 miles away at Gillingham to temporary stands on an athletic track, to the state of the art Amex Stadium, you do have to reluctantly take your hat off to them.
The only player they have had recently with a bit of an ego is Anthony Knockeart. He was dropped form the team, spat his dummy out, and was left out of the team until he fell in line again, and has been as good as gold ever since.
Chris Hughton is a very under rated manager in my eyes!
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 7, 2018 8:10:17 GMT
I assume with all the gingers we're signing we've got a no darkheads policy too?
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Post by madmickthe3rd on Sept 7, 2018 8:17:31 GMT
I think its unfair to call Shaq, Arnie or NZonzi 'dickhead' players in all honesty. Bitterness because they left us doesn't mean they were dickheads. Blimey mate, do you honestly think that of Arnie? When someone says they want to play for a team with more ambition and the chance to win something, which I do totally get, but then signs for West Ham!! I think that is the perfect blueprint for being a D--head and I really struggle to see how anybody could defend that, especially when that one transfer alone, at the time it was done, probably relegated us! So bitter?? Yes I bloody well am! Apparently he was upto his usual tricks at the weekend nonchalantly wandering around doing nothing on the pitch, totally disinterested, just because someone didn't stick the chance away he had created. I reckon he will be off in January like a flash, and history will repeat itself by then condemning WHU to relegation. |
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Post by werrington on Sept 7, 2018 8:39:01 GMT
Wait until the Brighton fans demand that star £40m purchase and then let’s see how they react when he rocks the boat when somebody else comes calling him
It’s easy to talk like that after only one season
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Post by lstokie on Sept 7, 2018 8:44:05 GMT
I think its unfair to call Shaq, Arnie or NZonzi 'dickhead' players in all honesty. Bitterness because they left us doesn't mean they were dickheads. Blimey mate, do you honestly think that of Arnie? When someone says they want to play for a team with more ambition and the chance to win something, which I do totally get, but then signs for West Ham!! I think that is the perfect blueprint for being a D--head and I really struggle to see how anybody could defend that, especially when that one transfer alone, at the time it was done, probably relegated us! So bitter?? Yes I bloody well am! Apparently he was upto his usual tricks at the weekend nonchalantly wandering around doing nothing on the pitch, totally disinterested, just because someone didn't stick the chance away he had created. I reckon he will be off in January like a flash, and history will repeat itself by then condemning WHU to relegation. Arnie less so because of the posts after he had left, but he jumped from a sinking ship... so no I don't really think he's a dickhead. |
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Post by marwood on Sept 7, 2018 8:49:03 GMT
Ric came here with a reputation for a bit of an attitude, crikey knows where we'd be if we'd have ruled him out on any such grounds
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Post by pez75 on Sept 7, 2018 8:49:22 GMT
www.theargus.co.uk/sport/16694426.mathew-ryan-says-albion-recruit-like-the-all-blacks-with-a-no-dheads-policy/When I think about some of the super inflated ego's we have recruited as players over the last 5 years, it is interesting to read about their transfer policy. When you have players like Nzonzi, Arnie and Shaq clearly calling the tunes and then jumping at the first opportunity, is it ever likely we ended up where we are, with a squad like we have? Brighton seem to be doing what we did in our early years in the Prem. Putting a team of 'grateful for the opprtunity' together who fight for the team and accept, without question, the decisions of the manager. We have somehow lost this concept along the way and look what the result has been! What a load of utter nonsense. |
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Sept 7, 2018 8:51:33 GMT
I'd kill for a team full of Nznonzi's, Arnies and Shaqs right now.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Sept 7, 2018 9:18:20 GMT
Chris Hughton is a very under rated manager in my eyes! Very much so!!! 👍 |
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Post by davethebass on Sept 7, 2018 9:36:16 GMT
Is that that what DNA means then? Dickheads Not Allowed?
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Sept 7, 2018 9:52:04 GMT
I'd kill for a team full of Nznonzi's, Arnies and Shaqs right now. Team full of side-ways passes and no tracking back? No thanks   |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 9:59:41 GMT
Wait until the Brighton fans demand that star £40m purchase and then let’s see how they react when he rocks the boat when somebody else comes calling him It’s easy to talk like that after only one season There's no correlation between being a dick head and being quality... Salah Mane Hazard De Bruyne Silva Kane Probably 6 of the best players in the league and none of them strike me as being dick heads. In fact, I saw a video of Mane cleaning his local mosque the other day? The problem is when star players from the middle teams angle for a move. Again, doesn't really make them a dick head, does it? Arnie was respected by all of his Stoke City team mates, a huge popular figure. He's also now captain of West Ham whilst Noble is on the bench. |
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Post by nott1 on Sept 7, 2018 10:02:03 GMT
I think its unfair to call Shaq, Arnie or NZonzi 'dickhead' players in all honesty. Bitterness because they left us doesn't mean they were dickheads. They were doing what we would all do given the chance.......improving their bank balances, so are we all dickheads? |
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Post by kidcrewbob on Sept 7, 2018 10:09:32 GMT
....prefer a no aged, crocked, has-been, misfiring, misfit, journeyman policy although I acknowledge that this would leave a somewhat small selection pool....!!!
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 7, 2018 10:10:23 GMT
I think its unfair to call Shaq, Arnie or NZonzi 'dickhead' players in all honesty. Bitterness because they left us doesn't mean they were dickheads. They were doing what we would all do given the chance.......improving their bank balances, so are we all dickheads? I am |
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Sept 7, 2018 10:15:04 GMT
I think its unfair to call Shaq, Arnie or NZonzi 'dickhead' players in all honesty. Bitterness because they left us doesn't mean they were dickheads. Blimey mate, do you honestly think that of Arnie? When someone says they want to play for a team with more ambition and the chance to win something, which I do totally get, but then signs for West Ham!! I think that is the perfect blueprint for being a D--head and I really struggle to see how anybody could defend that, especially when that one transfer alone, at the time it was done, probably relegated us! So bitter?? Yes I bloody well am! Apparently he was upto his usual tricks at the weekend nonchalantly wandering around doing nothing on the pitch, totally disinterested, just because someone didn't stick the chance away he had created. I reckon he will be off in January like a flash, and history will repeat itself by then condemning WHU to relegation. "Wants to play for a team with more ambition.....then signs for West Ham!!" If you could remind me (and yourself) what division they're in and then what division we're in, that'd be great. And if you think that any of the Brighton players wouldn't be off in a shot if they were offered more money by a team that are traditionally "bigger" than BHA, then you're deluded. |
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Sept 7, 2018 10:24:26 GMT
Arnie was no dickhead he could see what was happening here & quite rightly voiced his concerns lack of ambition & all that.
Joining WHU probably not the best move but it has raised his profile though as they are a poor side without him.
I would love him to still be here as we would probably still be in the premier league.
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Post by madmickthe3rd on Sept 7, 2018 11:07:00 GMT
www.theargus.co.uk/sport/16694426.mathew-ryan-says-albion-recruit-like-the-all-blacks-with-a-no-dheads-policy/When I think about some of the super inflated ego's we have recruited as players over the last 5 years, it is interesting to read about their transfer policy. When you have players like Nzonzi, Arnie and Shaq clearly calling the tunes and then jumping at the first opportunity, is it ever likely we ended up where we are, with a squad like we have? Brighton seem to be doing what we did in our early years in the Prem. Putting a team of 'grateful for the opprtunity' together who fight for the team and accept, without question, the decisions of the manager. We have somehow lost this concept along the way and look what the result has been! What a load of utter nonsense. What the article or my post? or both :0) |
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Post by werrington on Sept 7, 2018 11:09:03 GMT
Wait until the Brighton fans demand that star £40m purchase and then let’s see how they react when he rocks the boat when somebody else comes calling him It’s easy to talk like that after only one season There's no correlation between being a dick head and being quality... Salah Mane Hazard De Bruyne Silva Kane Probably 6 of the best players in the league and none of them strike me as being dick heads. In fact, I saw a video of Mane cleaning his local mosque the other day? The problem is when star players from the middle teams angle for a move. Again, doesn't really make them a dick head, does it? Arnie was respected by all of his Stoke City team mates, a huge popular figure. He's also now captain of West Ham whilst Noble is on the bench. I’ve called nobody a dick head....I’ve just pointed something out Brighton fans ( like Stoke) will demand a player with a big price tag who then will get courted by a larger/higher profile club offering more money etc and then he will rock the boat and then it all starts They also won’t be happy when the bloke signed for £6m then starts to be quite a catch and starts rocking the boat |
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Post by madmickthe3rd on Sept 7, 2018 11:12:23 GMT
Blimey mate, do you honestly think that of Arnie? When someone says they want to play for a team with more ambition and the chance to win something, which I do totally get, but then signs for West Ham!! I think that is the perfect blueprint for being a D--head and I really struggle to see how anybody could defend that, especially when that one transfer alone, at the time it was done, probably relegated us! So bitter?? Yes I bloody well am! Apparently he was upto his usual tricks at the weekend nonchalantly wandering around doing nothing on the pitch, totally disinterested, just because someone didn't stick the chance away he had created. I reckon he will be off in January like a flash, and history will repeat itself by then condemning WHU to relegation. "Wants to play for a team with more ambition.....then signs for West Ham!!" If you could remind me (and yourself) what division they're in and then what division we're in, that'd be great. And if you think that any of the Brighton players wouldn't be off in a shot if they were offered more money by a team that are traditionally "bigger" than BHA, then you're deluded. It is more about Ego's not what would they do if a big club came calling. I know very well where we currently are and where West Ham are. I also know where West Ham currently are and if you think Arnie moving to them is going to achieve his dream of winning summat, which was his excuse for wanting to move, then me and you my friend are both clearly deluded! |
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Post by heworksardtho on Sept 7, 2018 12:25:21 GMT
www.theargus.co.uk/sport/16694426.mathew-ryan-says-albion-recruit-like-the-all-blacks-with-a-no-dheads-policy/When I think about some of the super inflated ego's we have recruited as players over the last 5 years, it is interesting to read about their transfer policy. When you have players like Nzonzi, Arnie and Shaq clearly calling the tunes and then jumping at the first opportunity, is it ever likely we ended up where we are, with a squad like we have? Brighton seem to be doing what we did in our early years in the Prem. Putting a team of 'grateful for the opprtunity' together who fight for the team and accept, without question, the decisions of the manager. We have somehow lost this concept along the way and look what the result has been! Don’t blame any player moving clubs for money , they just like anybody in a job , there’s no loyalty |
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Sept 7, 2018 12:28:06 GMT
"Wants to play for a team with more ambition.....then signs for West Ham!!" If you could remind me (and yourself) what division they're in and then what division we're in, that'd be great. And if you think that any of the Brighton players wouldn't be off in a shot if they were offered more money by a team that are traditionally "bigger" than BHA, then you're deluded. It is more about Ego's not what would they do if a big club came calling. I know very well where we currently are and where West Ham are. I also know where West Ham currently are and if you think Arnie moving to them is going to achieve his dream of winning summat, which was his excuse for wanting to move, then me and you my friend are both clearly deluded! Pretty sure his "excuse" was that they were a bigger and more ambitious club (his quotes are easily google-able...yet none of those quotes mention winning trophies, despite your seeming obsession with that phrase now that you've conveniently decided to move your focus away from ambition). They are traditionally a "bigger" club and their ambition means they are still in the Prem. Also, why blame just him? We didn't HAVE to sell him did we? No one can force us to get rid if we don't want to, but we did, we sold our best and most threatening player....then replaced him with a free transfer. Does that go some way to showing you our ambition???? People can say that we went down because we got rid of players like Arnie and they're right, but that isn't because he downed tools because he thought he was bigger than us. It's because despite his best efforts, the club were willing to do everything on the cheap with a manager who'd clearly started to lose the plot and the club were sitting on their hands doing sod all about it. It's a 2 way thing....if you want to hold on to your best players, then it's up to you as a club to convince them and show them that they should stay. If you don't then they'll leave and then you as a club will suffer because of it. Why not try placing the blame where it lies for our current predicament which is the manager at the time and the board for allowing all of this to happen! No, slag off the "ego" driven players as that's the easy option, the knee-jerk, doesn't take much thought option. It's an easy and lazy cop out and woefully short sighted.
When you talk about where they currently are, have you seen where we currently are?? I'd say that as a career move, if he'd turned down West Ham and stayed with Stoke and he was now languishing towards the foot of the Championship rather than the foot of the Prem, then most neutrals would have said THAT was a dickhead move. They do this as a job and if they can move up the career ladder (and make no mistake, remaining in the Prem with them as he did last season IS a step up the career ladder, as he's still in a far better shop window than he would have been if he'd stayed), then that's what they'll do. Out of interest...if another company wants your services, is willing to pay you better wages and also looks like a company that may survive whilst your current employer is self-destructing would you move? Why in any other job would it be a wise career move but in football then making the same decision apparently means he has a massive ego? Whether you like the reasons he moved or not, turns out he made exactly the right choice for him and so he should; it's his job, his profession, his career and his future. If wanting to make the best of your career for the sake of your future life means you have a massive ego, then i think you can lump just about the entire working world into that bracket as well mate. Amazing how virtually everyone on here could see us unravelling back then and slated the club for it, yet a player notices so takes a better offer and suddenly he's just got a massive ego! Sorry to burst your bubble but these players aren't lifelong Stoke fans so they're not going to stay purely to please you. They have their own lives to get on with and their own careers to worry about. It doesn't make them egotistical divas for doing that, it simply means they're human and doing exactly the same as you or i would do if our employer was imploding and sliding down the pan. Stop judging footballers differently when all they're doing is making a sensible career move in the same way you would. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 12:36:12 GMT
If that's the criteria then I give them 2 transfer windows before they run out of options...
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Post by kustokie on Sept 7, 2018 13:14:12 GMT
www.theargus.co.uk/sport/16694426.mathew-ryan-says-albion-recruit-like-the-all-blacks-with-a-no-dheads-policy/When I think about some of the super inflated ego's we have recruited as players over the last 5 years, it is interesting to read about their transfer policy. When you have players like Nzonzi, Arnie and Shaq clearly calling the tunes and then jumping at the first opportunity, is it ever likely we ended up where we are, with a squad like we have? Brighton seem to be doing what we did in our early years in the Prem. Putting a team of 'grateful for the opprtunity' together who fight for the team and accept, without question, the decisions of the manager. We have somehow lost this concept along the way and look what the result has been! it is not a questin of bringing in players (or managers) that are grateful to be here - that's how we ended up Lambert. we need mature, intelligent players more like Butland, Crouch and Allen rather than petulant knobs like Jese. |
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