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Sept 1, 2018 17:54:42 GMT
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Post by Clem Fandango on Sept 1, 2018 17:54:42 GMT
I’d be lying if I said I didn’t have some genuine concerns about the blokes managerial approach based on what I’ve seen so far.
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Sept 1, 2018 17:56:03 GMT
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Post by neddy on Sept 1, 2018 17:56:03 GMT
I just have a gut feeling and always have had that we got the wrong man. Hes a good talker but just no substance to his management.He has no style of play or structure. If I had the choice I would be rid off him now however much I don't like sacking managers quickly. Sometimes you just know and hes one of them. I want to give him more time but look what happened last time....
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Sept 1, 2018 17:57:05 GMT
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Post by trickydicky73 on Sept 1, 2018 17:57:05 GMT
A pretty laughable quote from our manager, taken from the official website: “We worked all week on exploiting the spaces that they leave in wide areas and we were able to do that to a degree, but when it matters we weren’t able to show the quality that we undoubtedly have." What did he expect in terms of quality balls into the box from James McClean and Mame Diouf? McClean has always had ropey quality on the ball and Diouf just isn't a winger in that sense, even though he can do a job in a different way. So, why base your game in getting the ball out wide and then balls into the box when you don't really have a winger in the side, or to another degree, a quality attacking full back on the pitch? I think Bauer has been a bit ropey this season when played but if that was the designed game plan, surely he would have been a better bet wide right instead of Diouf, in terms of getting quality into the box? I'm baffled, but to be fair, i'm not a football professional... Maybe you should be. The fucker we've got is pinching a living.
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Sept 1, 2018 18:04:09 GMT
Post by spitthedog on Sept 1, 2018 18:04:09 GMT
I want Lambert back.
At least he was likeable.
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Sept 1, 2018 18:05:39 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 1, 2018 18:05:39 GMT
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Sept 1, 2018 18:08:36 GMT
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Post by milky on Sept 1, 2018 18:08:36 GMT
I tell you what I'd love to ask him if I had the chance...and bearing in mind he is meant to know this league inside out.
Why , in a league as unforgiving , intense and frantic as the championship is his squad packed with 30 plus year old plodders and why the only player with any genuine pace has been banished to the under 23s?
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Sept 1, 2018 18:09:26 GMT
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Post by kristoff on Sept 1, 2018 18:09:26 GMT
Not saying I’m overly enamoured with him, but by and large he made some awful decisions today and we were still only a penalty miss from taking a point from a team that we should be comparing ourselves too, at their ground? Give the guy some time I say
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 18:16:14 GMT
The bit about him wanting his forwards to do "something creative" and there being little tactically that he can do to make them be creative is fascinating as it is eye opening on a number of levels. Firstly, tactics can and do make entire teams more or less creative so their IS something he can do. Secondly, what does he expect a combination of Afobe, Crouch, Diouf, Berahino and McClean to create exactly? Individually, they are either finishers to differing degrees or poor footballers, or a combination of both. The one creative forward he has at his disposal is on the bench! Sorry, but this isn't washing. He needs to up his game and do more, a LOT more.
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Sept 1, 2018 18:16:38 GMT
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Post by Block 22 on Sept 1, 2018 18:16:38 GMT
Thought we played very well second half despite lacking a cutting edge and having Crouch on the pitch.
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Sept 1, 2018 18:17:35 GMT
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Post by neddy on Sept 1, 2018 18:17:35 GMT
[/quote FFS everybody yesterday said we needed creativity from wide positions and he failed to address it so we got what we deserved and FFS Bojan is the only number 10 in the system he played today and should have started....its down to him with poor selection and not getting the best out of what we have for goodness sake!!! Crouch is not a starter! Next game....forget egos. Butland Martina Shawcross Indi Pieters Etobo Woods McLean Bojan Ince Afobe And effing practice for the next two weeks! 😡😡😡
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Sept 1, 2018 18:19:11 GMT
Post by kidcrewbob on Sept 1, 2018 18:19:11 GMT
He can just do one - clueless. The pool of players is not as bad as some say - but he can't manage his way out of a paper bag........a ridiculous gamble
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Sept 1, 2018 18:20:08 GMT
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Post by Gary Hackett on Sept 1, 2018 18:20:08 GMT
Is Gary Megson available?
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Post by kustokie on Sept 1, 2018 18:22:00 GMT
I already don’t like him. First thing out of his mouth is blame the players. How about team selection and subs - dreadful?
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Post by Pricey on Sept 1, 2018 18:23:58 GMT
I tell you what I'd love to ask him if I had the chance...and bearing in mind he is meant to know this league inside out. Why , in a league as unforgiving , intense and frantic as the championship is his squad packed with 30 plus year old plodders and why the only player with any genuine pace has been banished to the under 23s? Who has genuine pace? I didn't think we had anyone.
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Sept 1, 2018 18:24:42 GMT
Post by Clayton Wood on Sept 1, 2018 18:24:42 GMT
I already don’t like him. First thing out of his mouth is blame the players. How about team selection and subs - dreadful? He's making sure everybody knows it's not his fault.
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Sept 1, 2018 18:26:38 GMT
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Post by milky on Sept 1, 2018 18:26:38 GMT
I tell you what I'd love to ask him if I had the chance...and bearing in mind he is meant to know this league inside out. Why , in a league as unforgiving , intense and frantic as the championship is his squad packed with 30 plus year old plodders and why the only player with any genuine pace has been banished to the under 23s? Who has genuine pace? I didn't think we had anyone. I was thinking Bauer. He is about the quickest we have ?
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Post by dirtygary69 on Sept 1, 2018 18:28:25 GMT
Yeah he’s not particularly easy to warm to, is he? Not sure this public berating of the players week after week is the right way to go about things. And it hasn’t really worked yet either as we still keep making wanky mistakes.
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Sept 1, 2018 18:30:39 GMT
Post by dirtygary69 on Sept 1, 2018 18:30:39 GMT
That said, I didn’t think today was that bad from Rowett. We didn’t get mullered and we should have taken a point.
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Sept 1, 2018 18:32:31 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 1, 2018 18:32:31 GMT
We’ve gone back to when Pulis played Crouch up top with Adam off him,how many years later?Just not got the strong defence to go with it
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Sept 1, 2018 18:32:45 GMT
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Post by claytonscrubs on Sept 1, 2018 18:32:45 GMT
I already don’t like him. First thing out of his mouth is blame the players. How about team selection and subs - dreadful? He’s taking a leaf out of Lambert’s book, blame everybody but himself..
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Post by Pricey on Sept 1, 2018 18:34:47 GMT
Who has genuine pace? I didn't think we had anyone. I was thinking Bauer. He is about the quickest we have ? I'm not sure he is banished to the under 23s is he? He'd be on the bench if we didn't have to name a player in the squad who's come through the ranks (Edwards). But yeah, he is the quickest we have. Trouble is, despite Lambert playing him on the left wing and god knows wherever else last season, he's a right back whose defensive positioning and discipline isn't the best. We need pace in attacking positions.
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Sept 1, 2018 18:39:19 GMT
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Post by milky on Sept 1, 2018 18:39:19 GMT
I was thinking Bauer. He is about the quickest we have ? I'm not sure he is banished to the under 23s is he? He'd be on the bench if we didn't have to name a player in the squad who's come through the ranks (Edwards). But yeah, he is the quickest we have. Trouble is, despite Lambert playing him on the left wing and god knows wherever else last season, he's a right back whose defensive positioning and discipline isn't the best. We need pace in attacking positions. True but you can say the same about Peiters , Shawcross and Allen this season but they have kept their place. He clearly isn't a fan of Bauer is he ?
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Post by maliciousdamage on Sept 1, 2018 18:41:36 GMT
He is toss. He's a poor imitation of Pulis. At least he got results. Rowett sums up our level of ambition, sadly. What I can't understand is we paid top dollar for this bloke because he supposedly knows this league like the back of his hands but hasn't had the so called tools to do the job. I'm now looking at the games we've played and the points we have and I can't see how we are supposed to be set up, how we are supposed to be playing system wise and the substitutions seem bizarre. Admittedly we beat a very poor Hull side and a poor prem side that made ten changes in Huddersfield to apparently raise the confidence level yet again today we look lost and short in many areas, add to that starting Crouch (we all know he should never start nowadays) plus the subs when chasing the game and I'm at a loss as to what Rowett is trying to do. I'm also now a !little concerned the players are equally confused and can't buy into what he's telling then hence they look a shambles on the pitch. I wanted to believe Rowett was the answer but I'm not sure this job is really for him, I've called him a charlatan which might seem harsh yet paid the money he is and supposedly knowing the league as he does and the money he was given he should be doing better irrespective of what's going g on upstairs
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Post by Pricey on Sept 1, 2018 18:42:39 GMT
The bit about him wanting his forwards to do "something creative" and there being little tactically that he can do to make them be creative is fascinating as it is eye opening on a number of levels. Firstly, tactics can and do make entire teams more or less creative so their IS something he can do. Secondly, what does he expect a combination of Afobe, Crouch, Diouf, Berahino and McClean to create exactly? Individually, they are either finishers to differing degrees or poor footballers, or a combination of both. The one creative forward he has at his disposal is on the bench! Sorry, but this isn't washing. He needs to up his game and do more, a LOT more. I take issue with that statement as well. What was the quote? "There's nothing tactically you can really do in the final third." If Guardiola or Bielsa read that they won't stop laughing for a week. Ridiculous. I mean, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now but he's meant to be the bloke - along with his extensive staff obviously - getting stuff out of these players and at the moment he's looking like he can't organise a defence, midfield or attack. He can't keep banging on about there being school boy defending and a lack of aggression either because HE needs to instil it and he's already had two months to do it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 18:42:40 GMT
We should have known what to expect, when he paid no interest whatsoever in his 25-goal No10, Vydra, who was openly available.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 18:42:50 GMT
You can only play the hand you're given and lets be honest half our squad are double blank.
Telling joe Allen to play the Messi role is easy in theory, in practice it just falls on its' arse. Something we're becoming very adept at doing.
Those who thought promotion was a done deal and even those who think we will get there, I say this DREAM ON.
We are in decline and have not yet sunk to our new level. Only when we get there can we start to build as patching a leaky ship NEVER works and that is what we have done, Mend and Make Do the traditional old fashioned Stoke-on-Trent way which we have had ALL our lives.
One day Stoke will have a modern owner and a sponsor who puts their hand in their pocket without expecting return. One day we will play passing football like evry good team does. One day we will be back in the top division, where we belong.
But it is not this day and I fear I will not live to see it.
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Sept 1, 2018 18:43:07 GMT
Post by stonmg on Sept 1, 2018 18:43:07 GMT
I’ve seen enough. He should go. Wouldn't have him managing a Charity Shop!
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Sept 1, 2018 18:44:26 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 18:44:26 GMT
The bit about him wanting his forwards to do "something creative" and there being little tactically that he can do to make them be creative is fascinating as it is eye opening on a number of levels. Firstly, tactics can and do make entire teams more or less creative so their IS something he can do. Secondly, what does he expect a combination of Afobe, Crouch, Diouf, Berahino and McClean to create exactly? Individually, they are either finishers to differing degrees or poor footballers, or a combination of both. The one creative forward he has at his disposal is on the bench! Sorry, but this isn't washing. He needs to up his game and do more, a LOT more. If he said that, well, Jesus wept.
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Sept 1, 2018 18:45:00 GMT
Post by Pricey on Sept 1, 2018 18:45:00 GMT
I'm not sure he is banished to the under 23s is he? He'd be on the bench if we didn't have to name a player in the squad who's come through the ranks (Edwards). But yeah, he is the quickest we have. Trouble is, despite Lambert playing him on the left wing and god knows wherever else last season, he's a right back whose defensive positioning and discipline isn't the best. We need pace in attacking positions. True but you can say the same about Peiters , Shawcross and Allen this season but they have kept their place. He clearly isn't a fan of Bauer is he ? No, it doesn't look like it. However, we've had less options in the positions the other players play in. Will be interesting to see who drops out for Woods. Probably Crouch and he'll play Joe Allen in the 10 role...
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Sept 1, 2018 18:45:15 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 1, 2018 18:45:15 GMT
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