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Post by ceejays on Aug 23, 2018 16:53:15 GMT
It’s as plain as your nose that there is a power struggle ongoing. Rowett v Scholes and Cartwright. The asides Rowett has made in this regard are a contributory factor to our on pitch performance. I have it on very good authority that this struggle has escalated last Friday the details of which you would not credit. I don’t often post as you can check my profile but having supported the potters for sixty years I cannot stand on the sidelines and read all the eloquent posts on here that are on the money. I feel as frustrated as we all are at the refusal to dismiss Scholes and Cartwright. Keep going Mr Rowett we are all behind you. What a task you have. But why did u buy Mclean when a blind man could tell you he was gash.Please drop him and recognise he is as is Fletcher totally useless
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Post by barmystokie1 on Aug 23, 2018 16:59:19 GMT
Even if you take out of the equation the mistakes of the last 2-3 years, what I cannot for the life understand is why as a successful businessman like Coates hasn't tried to freshen up the senior leadership team before as in most business areas they would have done so by now regardless because there is always the danger of going stale with the same leadership team for over 10+ Years and performance regressing (like it quite clearly has done for us) . Baffling and extremely worrying to say the least!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 17:01:34 GMT
I have raised the point before but Scholes as manouvered himself onto the board and I think he had shares. The question I would like andwering, is he in a position where the Coates family can't sack him or if they wanted to it would be very difficult?
If we see him as the root problem then it looks like the root problem is not going anywhere and the power struggles will just continue to rumble on and the fans get more upset.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 17:02:25 GMT
It’s as plain as your nose that there is a power struggle ongoing. Rowett v Scholes and Cartwright. The asides Rowett has made in this regard are a contributory factor to our on pitch performance. I have it on very good authority that this struggle has escalated last Friday the details of which you would not credit. I don’t often post as you can check my profile but having supported the potters for sixty years I cannot stand on the sidelines and read all the eloquent posts on here that are on the money. I feel as frustrated as we all are at the refusal to dismiss Scholes and Cartwright. Keep going Mr Rowett we are all behind you. What a task you have. But why did u buy Mclean when a blind man could tell you he was gash.Please drop him and recognise he is as is Fletcher totally useless So the rumours of him walking, only to be pursuaded are true then? Interesting. |
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 23, 2018 17:06:18 GMT
It’s as plain as your nose that there is a power struggle ongoing. Rowett v Scholes and Cartwright. The asides Rowett has made in this regard are a contributory factor to our on pitch performance. I have it on very good authority that this struggle has escalated last Friday the details of which you would not credit. I don’t often post as you can check my profile but having supported the potters for sixty years I cannot stand on the sidelines and read all the eloquent posts on here that are on the money. I feel as frustrated as we all are at the refusal to dismiss Scholes and Cartwright. Keep going Mr Rowett we are all behind you. What a task you have. But why did u buy Mclean when a blind man could tell you he was gash.Please drop him and recognise he is as is Fletcher totally useless So the rumours of him walking, only to be pursuaded are true then? Interesting. I suggested 2 weeks ago that a power struggle was going on. If he WAS persuaded to stay then Coates must have given him some assurances. No idea what though. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 17:07:50 GMT
So the rumours of him walking, only to be pursuaded are true then? Interesting. I suggested 2 weeks ago that a power struggle was going on. If he WAS persuaded to stay then Coates must have given him some assurances. No idea what though. He's probably promised him an overhaul... |
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 23, 2018 17:16:06 GMT
I suggested 2 weeks ago that a power struggle was going on. If he WAS persuaded to stay then Coates must have given him some assurances. No idea what though. He's probably promised him an overhaul... I can just picture Gaz in these...  |
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Post by neddy on Aug 23, 2018 17:18:02 GMT
I too have heard rumours of bust ups at CW but if the OP knows definitively why not third hand post what he knows?
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Post by iglugluk on Aug 23, 2018 17:22:23 GMT
Totally ridiculous if they are not able to act as a team behind the scenes no wonder the team on the pitch are also struggling.
Sort this shit out Coates!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 17:22:53 GMT
I too have heard rumours of bust ups at CW but if the OP knows definitively why not third hand post what he knows? Bust ups between who? Can someone tell me if Scholes is in stackable? |
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 23, 2018 17:23:17 GMT
It’s obvious what’s happens the 2 charlatans have made promises re investment that they haven’t kept.
GR is angry so is picking the likes of Fletcher to prove a point re the lack of quality.
He’s made mistakes but he’s been let down by the transfer team and board. I think if things don’t improve re our targets / business he’ll walk.
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Post by march4 on Aug 23, 2018 17:23:41 GMT
So the rumours of him walking, only to be pursuaded are true then? Interesting. I suggested 2 weeks ago that a power struggle was going on. If he WAS persuaded to stay then Coates must have given him some assurances. No idea what though. There is clearly something going on behind the scenes - we aren’t daft and we can see the signs. I’m a little surprised some of our ITKs have not been more forward with their knowledge. |
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Post by ceejays on Aug 23, 2018 17:28:55 GMT
Put it this way my source is a journalist with long standing connections to the hierarchy. But the rumours are true
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 17:30:51 GMT
Put it this way my source is a journalist with long standing connections to the hierarchy. But the rumours are true Was it over transfers, incoming, outgoing or both? What or who made him stay? |
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Post by neddy on Aug 23, 2018 17:31:48 GMT
Put it this way my source is a journalist with long standing connections to the hierarchy. But the rumours are true I have absolutely no issue with what you are saying and have said I too have heard busy ups quoted but I can’t understand why a journo would not spill it in detail as it’s a great scoop story? Also if it brings stuff out in the open it could help.....the fans deserve answers!!! |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 23, 2018 17:33:12 GMT
I suggested 2 weeks ago that a power struggle was going on. If he WAS persuaded to stay then Coates must have given him some assurances. No idea what though. There is clearly something going on behind the scenes - we aren’t daft and we can see the signs. I’m a little surprised some of our ITKs have not been more forward with their knowledge. They're busy. It's not easy to make up 280 pages of shit by the end of January. |
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Post by ceejays on Aug 23, 2018 17:35:02 GMT
Nothing whatsoever to do with transfers that’s the unbelievable thing
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Post by neddy on Aug 23, 2018 17:35:43 GMT
Nothing whatsoever to do with transfers that’s the unbelievable thing Sorry but why not divulge? |
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 23, 2018 17:37:05 GMT
Nothing whatsoever to do with transfers that’s the unbelievable thing Must be over team selection then. |
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Post by skip on Aug 23, 2018 17:37:09 GMT
Nothing whatsoever to do with transfers that’s the unbelievable thing THEN WHAT?!! The only thing is a power struggle for control of the club itself. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 17:37:26 GMT
Nothing whatsoever to do with transfers that’s the unbelievable thing Really? Now that is a head scratcher. The only thing I can think of is the squad haven't taken to him, there is open dissent and he feels he can't carry on? |
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Post by stokeson on Aug 23, 2018 17:39:42 GMT
Rowett great again on radio stoke .taking the booing on the chin. Worse it gets the more I like him.
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Post by jezzascfc on Aug 23, 2018 17:39:43 GMT
Scholes' contract would dictate on what terms his services could be terminated, but, even if he is a director, a majority, of the board possibly, of the shareholders certainly, should be able to remove him as a director and terminate his contract as CEO (possibly with a pay off). If he now has some shares, it may be there is a shareholder's agreement in place which states that, if he is terminated as an employee and director, he has to offer such shares to the other shareholders to buy or to the club to buy back.
The above is entirely usual and any half decent lawyer would include such provisions to protect the Coates' interests.
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Post by ceejays on Aug 23, 2018 17:40:12 GMT
Doesn’t take much working out. Someone got it bang on the nails few posts back on this thread. I will leave it there. I don’t wish to totally compromise my friend
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 23, 2018 17:40:21 GMT
Nothing whatsoever to do with transfers that’s the unbelievable thing Really? Now that is a head scratcher. The only thing I can think of is the squad haven't taken to him, there is open dissent and he feels he can't carry on? Why would that cause a bust up? |
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Post by questionable on Aug 23, 2018 17:40:46 GMT
For what it’s worth and it’s my decision after 40 plus years I haven’t renewed my ST and Scholes was a major factor in my decision, I loathe the tosser with a passion I really despise him.
It’s a drop in the ocean to Stoke but I’m of the opinion more people will follow the more they learn about this despicable specimen
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Post by gingerninja on Aug 23, 2018 17:41:29 GMT
Like Dave Johhno alluded to on another thread something is clearly wrong with the squad. I have noticed they all look glum in the warm up and appear to have no team spirit. Whether this is down to Rowett or other fact I don't know, but something is clearly not right.
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Post by jezzascfc on Aug 23, 2018 17:41:34 GMT
Doesn’t take much working out. Someone got it bang on the nails few posts back on this thread. I will leave it there. I don’t wish to totally compromise my friend If it is team selection, that is wholly within the manager's remit. |
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Post by neddy on Aug 23, 2018 17:41:37 GMT
Nothing whatsoever to do with transfers that’s the unbelievable thing Really? Now that is a head scratcher... Whatever it is there seems no going back and it’s only going to fester and get worse! As someone said things may have to get considerably worse before they get better? I’m no knee jerk reaction monger and travel 150 mile round trips and have supported the club over 50 years and this has a familiarity about it.....my mate said it felt like pre Pulis years and he was right!!! And before anyone says I’m not advocating Pulis just make the comparison! |
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Post by drfishy on Aug 23, 2018 17:41:45 GMT
Well if he keeps picking teams like last night with Fletcher/Allen/McClean in the choice will be taken out of his hands! (though I suppose he might get a nice compo package)
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