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Post by lee1982 on Aug 23, 2018 18:34:13 GMT
And me please
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tribe
Youth Player
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Post by tribe on Aug 23, 2018 18:36:50 GMT
Someone spill the fucking beans for fuck sake
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Post by djduncanjames on Aug 23, 2018 18:40:37 GMT
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Post by britpit on Aug 23, 2018 18:41:39 GMT
Thought that was a bit odd what did it say again? Pm if you can. Done me to please
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Post by lee1982 on Aug 23, 2018 18:47:09 GMT
Can i have the pm?
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Post by localloser on Aug 23, 2018 18:48:22 GMT
Why do people need to be pm'ing? It's quite clearly about team selection and if it is, I don't believe it's as simple as that in all honesty. The story I was told yesterday was that Scholes "allegedly" insisted on Bauer playing, and Rowett insisting that he wasn't. Scholes "allegedly" insisted on Bauer playing so Rowett and his team allegedly walked off, and PC had to plead with him to return. Don't know what PC promised GR however. That's what I was told last night from an ex-employee of the club. It may be true, it may not be true, but that's the story.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 23, 2018 18:54:54 GMT
Why do people need to be pm'ing? It's quite clearly about team selection and if it is, I don't believe it's as simple as that in all honesty. The story I was told yesterday was that Scholes "allegedly" insisted on Bauer playing, and Rowett insisting that he wasn't. Scholes "allegedly" insisted on Bauer playing so Rowett and his team allegedly walked off, and PC had to plead with him to return. Don't know what PV promised GR however. That's what I was told last night from an ex-employee of the club. It may be true, it may not be true, but that's the story. It's clear that it's still a shit show behind the scenes but I can't believe Tony fucking Scholes would be telling Rowett who he should be playing?!.. I hope we find out once and for all soon though.
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Post by liamo on Aug 23, 2018 18:56:08 GMT
Put them all on an island and make them fight to the death
Give Rowett body armour, grenades and a machine gun
Give Scholes and Cartwright a plastic spork each and bright orange high viz jackets
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Post by onefatcopper on Aug 23, 2018 18:56:09 GMT
Look back to when Rowett first arrived for work and every obstacle that’s been put in his way ? players given new long term contracts , A player 99.9% signed before managers arrival, Hit list of players wanted going from plan A to B and then to C ? And who controls this area of the club ? As Rowetts said numerous times ( I provide a list of names then give it to the appropriate people) Are you seriously saying people are actively torpedoing recruitment of the managers preferred targets!!! Why the fuck couldn't they torpedo McClean Then you tell me whose jobs were under most pressure with the promised overhaul this summer, a chief executive who has failed to retain any of the major corporate sponsorship, conclusion of incoming or outgoing transfer record is to be kind Questionable . a technical director and also his staff, first question is this department cost effective?, purchase and resale value of incoming players ?, Strategy of this department with the Brexit deadline fast approaching ? its strange what or who you would sacrifice when your survival is under threat
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on Aug 23, 2018 18:56:28 GMT
The story I was told yesterday was that Scholes "allegedly" insisted on Bauer playing, and Rowett insisting that he wasn't. Scholes "allegedly" insisted on Bauer playing so Rowett and his team allegedly walked off, and PC had to plead with him to return. Don't know what PV promised GR however. That's what I was told last night from an ex-employee of the club. It may be true, it may not be true, but that's the story. It's clear that it's still a shit show behind the scenes but I can't believe Tony fucking Scholes would be telling Rowett who he should be playing?!.. I hope we find out once and for all soon though. I can’t either, but in some twisted way, I wouldn’t be surprised if it were true....
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 23, 2018 18:59:41 GMT
Why do people need to be pm'ing? It's quite clearly about team selection and if it is, I don't believe it's as simple as that in all honesty. The story I was told yesterday was that Scholes "allegedly" insisted on Bauer playing, and Rowett insisting that he wasn't. Scholes "allegedly" insisted on Bauer playing so Rowett and his team allegedly walked off, and PC had to plead with him to return. Don't know what PV promised GR however. That's what I was told last night from an ex-employee of the club. It may be true, it may not be true, but that's the story. I can buy that Scholes is a self indulged, self obsessed, malevolent influence behind the scenes but I can't have that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 18:59:53 GMT
This just can't go on much longer can it ? The sooner it all comes out the better and hopefully we can then try to regroup and make progress.
Why the hell won't PC just bite the bullet and sack Scholes and Cartwright ?
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Post by dirtygary69 on Aug 23, 2018 19:00:34 GMT
I feel dirty for saying this but could I have the PM?
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Post by crownmeking on Aug 23, 2018 19:00:41 GMT
Scholes' contract would dictate on what terms his services could be terminated, but, even if he is a director, a majority, of the board possibly, of the shareholders certainly, should be able to remove him as a director and terminate his contract as CEO (possibly with a pay off). If he now has some shares, it may be there is a shareholder's agreement in place which states that, if he is terminated as an employee and director, he has to offer such shares to the other shareholders to buy or to the club to buy back. The above is entirely usual and any half decent lawyer would include such provisions to protect the Coates' interests. As long as he isn't a majority share holder, there would be no problem in him resigning or being fired as CEO but having the option to keep his shares or sell them.
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Post by localloser on Aug 23, 2018 19:01:36 GMT
It's clear that it's still a shit show behind the scenes but I can't believe Tony fucking Scholes would be telling Rowett who he should be playing?!.. I hope we find out once and for all soon though. I can’t either, but in some twisted way, I wouldn’t be surprised if it were true.... The person who told me is an eminently respectable, non-hysterical elderly gent who wouldn't tell the tale if he didn't honestly believe it to be true. He was talking in despair rather than wanting to appear ITK
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Post by skip on Aug 23, 2018 19:02:27 GMT
This just can't go on much linger can it ? The sooner it all comes out the better and hopefully we can then try to regroup and make progress. Why the hell won't PC just bite the bullet and sack Scholes and Cartwright ?Maybe in some Through the Looking Glass Golden Shares type scenario, Coates can't get rid of them without an almighty set to, and maybe he doesn't have the backing of his son. Business is one thing, but if there are split loyalties in the family, then it's going to get shitter before it gets brighter. All supposition of course.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 19:02:44 GMT
Why do people need to be pm'ing? It's quite clearly about team selection and if it is, I don't believe it's as simple as that in all honesty. The story I was told yesterday was that Scholes "allegedly" insisted on Bauer playing, and Rowett insisting that he wasn't. Scholes "allegedly" insisted on Bauer playing so Rowett and his team allegedly walked off, and PC had to plead with him to return. Don't know what PC promised GR however. That's what I was told last night from an ex-employee of the club. It may be true, it may not be true, but that's the story. I'd be very shocked if that was correct. I don't think that would be Scholes' style. I also can't see Peter appointing a CEO with those kind of tendencies, and certainly not sticking with one that has them either. Say what you want about Coates Mk1 and even Coates Mk2 but he is very supportive and defensive of his managers, possibly overly so in some cases.
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Post by crownmeking on Aug 23, 2018 19:03:07 GMT
Scholes' contract would dictate on what terms his services could be terminated, but, even if he is a director, a majority, of the board possibly, of the shareholders certainly, should be able to remove him as a director and terminate his contract as CEO (possibly with a pay off). If he now has some shares, it may be there is a shareholder's agreement in place which states that, if he is terminated as an employee and director, he has to offer such shares to the other shareholders to buy or to the club to buy back. The above is entirely usual and any half decent lawyer would include such provisions to protect the Coates' interests. Jezza I believe you are in the corporate world as I was so if they wanted the CEO gone he would be.... Yes, the CEO's removal would be no different to any other employee of the company in terms of process. Nobody is above being fired from cleaning lady to CEO.
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on Aug 23, 2018 19:04:26 GMT
I can’t either, but in some twisted way, I wouldn’t be surprised if it were true.... The person who told me is an eminently respectable, non-hysterical elderly gent who wouldn't tell the tale if he didn't honestly believe it to be true. He was talking in despair rather than wanting to appear ITK Thank you. It seems I’m not surprised at all then.
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Post by questionable on Aug 23, 2018 19:07:00 GMT
So how do we hound these out of the club
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 19:07:28 GMT
Regardless of what anyone thinks about Rowett's C.V, capability, tactics or decision making, if he's willing to go toe-to-toe with the Pizza Boys, we should back him all the way, for now.
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Post by robrigo on Aug 23, 2018 19:08:18 GMT
I feel dirty for saying this but could I have the PM? You are dirty mate. You are dirtygary69 😀! Please may I have the pm also?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 23, 2018 19:09:53 GMT
So how do we hound these out of the club Not a chance. The club do monitor fan sentiment though so expect a fatuous statement about unity forthwith.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Aug 23, 2018 19:10:43 GMT
I feel dirty for saying this but could I have the PM? You are dirty mate. You are dirtygary69 😀! Please may I have the pm also? Double dirtygary.
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Aug 23, 2018 19:11:59 GMT
What’s going on guys? I need this PM I think. I’m out the loop here.
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Post by knowingeye on Aug 23, 2018 19:13:08 GMT
This just can't go on much linger can it ? The sooner it all comes out the better and hopefully we can then try to regroup and make progress. Why the hell won't PC just bite the bullet and sack Scholes and Cartwright ?Maybe in some Through the Looking Glass Golden Shares type scenario, Coates can't get rid of them without an almighty set to, and maybe he doesn't have the backing of his son. Business is one thing, but if there are split loyalties in the family, then it's going to get shitter before it gets brighter. All supposition of course. Perhaps someone independent should come in and sort it out, as family comes first.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Aug 23, 2018 19:14:47 GMT
Scholes' contract would dictate on what terms his services could be terminated, but, even if he is a director, a majority, of the board possibly, of the shareholders certainly, should be able to remove him as a director and terminate his contract as CEO (possibly with a pay off). If he now has some shares, it may be there is a shareholder's agreement in place which states that, if he is terminated as an employee and director, he has to offer such shares to the other shareholders to buy or to the club to buy back. The above is entirely usual and any half decent lawyer would include such provisions to protect the Coates' interests. As long as he isn't a majority share holder, there would be no problem in him resigning or being fired as CEO but having the option to keep his shares or sell them. He might not have the option to keep them, if he was awarded them as part of some incentive scheme there are shareholder agreements (good/bad leaver clauses) that could mean that any shares are virtually worthless to him
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Post by jezzascfc on Aug 23, 2018 19:16:09 GMT
Maybe in some Through the Looking Glass Golden Shares type scenario, Coates can't get rid of them without an almighty set to, and maybe he doesn't have the backing of his son. Business is one thing, but if there are split loyalties in the family, then it's going to get shitter before it gets brighter. All supposition of course. Perhaps someone independent should come in and sort it out, as family comes first. I am available for the cost of a flight, a good hotel and my hourly rate to come in and draft all docs and do the firing. In fact, it would be my utmost pleasure.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Aug 23, 2018 19:17:04 GMT
What’s going on guys? I need this PM I think. I’m out the loop here. #me24ScholesOut
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Post by questionable on Aug 23, 2018 19:18:02 GMT
Imagine that the shares in the club are plummeting anyway, or could they be Bet365 shares??
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